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denphone 01-07-2019 06:21
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So much for the Conservatives being on the side of business anymore....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-was-worth-it

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Business groups have expressed anger after Jeremy Hunt said he would willingly tell people whose companies went bust after a no-deal Brexit that their sacrifice had been necessary.
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A senior party source said it was “shocking to hear an allegedly sensible politician talk so frivolously about the livelihoods of millions of people”.

1andrew1 01-07-2019 06:30
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36000958)
So much for the Conservatives being on the side of business anymore....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-was-worth-it
Labour and the Conservatives seem to be out competing one another to deliver the most hostile business environment.

ianch99 01-07-2019 10:23
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36000959)
Labour and the Conservatives seem to be out competing one another to deliver the most hostile business environment.
Both playing to their own non-representative audiences while the people who will pay the price for this circus look on ..

denphone 01-07-2019 10:36
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36000959)
Labour and the Conservatives seem to be out competing one another to deliver the most hostile business environment.
l know Andrew and yet come the next general Election both duplicitous scheming parties will be trying to portray themselves as the party on the side of business.:rolleyes:

Damien 01-07-2019 12:45
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It's amazing the spending pledges they're making. Education - more funding. NHS - more funding. Northern Infrastructure - more spending. All whilst cutting our taxes!

denphone 01-07-2019 12:57
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That mythical magic money tree seems to appear at the most convienent times....

ianch99 01-07-2019 13:24
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36000981)
It's amazing the spending pledges they're making. Education - more funding. NHS - more funding. Northern Infrastructure - more spending. All whilst cutting our taxes!
Have you noticed they are both now, esp. Hunt, cementing the No Deal narrative? "Yes, I will look the failed businesses in the eye and tell them that yes, they had to fail since the country voted for pain".

They are both ramping up the No Deal excuses whilst mumbling over the prospects of getting the EU to re-open the WA. I suppose they are trying to make sure that they personally will not be blamed because the "people" wanted the pain and not them.

papa smurf 01-07-2019 13:41
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36000986)
Have you noticed they are both now, esp. Hunt, cementing the No Deal narrative? "Yes, I will look the failed businesses in the eye and tell them that yes, they had to fail since the country voted for pain".

They are both ramping up the No Deal excuses whilst mumbling over the prospects of getting the EU to re-open the WA. I suppose they are trying to make sure that they personally will not be blamed because the "people" wanted the pain and not them.
We [the people] thank them for their sacrifice for the greater good.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36000981)
It's amazing the spending pledges they're making. Education - more funding. NHS - more funding. Northern Infrastructure - more spending. All whilst cutting our taxes!
They are spending the money TM promised to the EU.

Damien 01-07-2019 13:53
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36000987)

They are spending the money TM promised to the EU.
Many times over yes. This little pot, which also assume no negative consequences to economic growth, is proving very useful. Unfunded policy? EU money will cover that.

Dave42 01-07-2019 14:21
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both main parties not fit enough to run a bath nevermind a country

ianch99 01-07-2019 15:09
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36000989)
Many times over yes. This little pot, which also assume no negative consequences to economic growth, is proving very useful. Unfunded policy? EU money will cover that.
There is also the possible legal battle over the monies owed to the EU. They may insist on fighting this on principle.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36000987)
We [the people] thank them for their sacrifice for the greater good.
sacrifice: an act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to God or to a divine or supernatural figure.

Interesting choice of words :)

papa smurf 01-07-2019 15:12
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36000993)
There is also the possible legal battle over the monies owed to the EU. They may insist on fighting this on principle.

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sacrifice: an act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to God or to a divine or supernatural figure.

Interesting choice of words :)
;):tu:

Sephiroth 01-07-2019 22:37
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36000965)
Both playing to their own non-representative audiences while the people who will pay the price for this circus look on ..
Again - a ridiculous thing to say in respect of Conservative members. Why on earth would the 120,000 Conservative members receive Hunt's nonsense with any relish?

And how on earth could Hunt have calculated that the members would receive his anti-business remarks in a good light?

I'm more off Hunt now than I was with Boris.

ianch99 02-07-2019 00:13
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001038)
Again - a ridiculous thing to say in respect of Conservative members. Why on earth would the 120,000 Conservative members receive Hunt's nonsense with any relish?

And how on earth could Hunt have calculated that the members would receive his anti-business remarks in a good light?

I'm more off Hunt now than I was with Boris.
Show me a representative poll of Conservative Party members views that opposes the YouGov one. I mean if you can show us the evidence that backs your indignation then fair enough.

1andrew1 02-07-2019 03:19
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001038)
Again - a ridiculous thing to say in respect of Conservative members. Why on earth would the 120,000 Conservative members receive Hunt's nonsense with any relish?

And how on earth could Hunt have calculated that the members would receive his anti-business remarks in a good light?

I'm more off Hunt now than I was with Boris.
The more nonsense Hunt spouts, the more BoJo's lead narrows. There's method in his madness.
You're right to highlight that the Conservative Party is no longer the natural home for business. Maggie must be turning in her grave.


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