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OLD BOY 22-05-2016 15:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35838976)
We don't know that for sure. Remember, EETV does not offer the Sky channels directly unlike VM and TalkTalk. TalkTalk used to offer NowTV but Sky or TalkTalk pulled the plug on the venture. (The standard Movies on-demand service remains on TalkTalk but not the live channels).

I think Virgin take the view that if they offered Now TV on the TiVo, people would cease their subscriptions to Sky through the cable packages they offer (and thereby make a profit) and instead would subscribe directly to Sky through the Now TV app, thereby missing out on that profit.

However. I choose to do both, as I suspect do most cable subscribers who get Now TV. So I think Virgin should go for it, and if they are concerned about people opting only for Now TV, Virgin could require that to access this app via the TiVo, you must be on the XL pack.

Dave42 22-05-2016 15:12

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35839005)
I think Virgin take the view that if they offered Now TV on the TiVo, people would cease their subscriptions to Sky through the cable packages they offer (and thereby make a profit) and instead would subscribe directly to Sky through the Now TV app, thereby missing out on that profit.

However. I choose to do both, as I suspect do most cable subscribers who get Now TV. So I think Virgin should go for it, and if they are concerned about people opting only for Now TV, Virgin could require that to access this app via the TiVo, you must be on the XL pack.

you do know sky own now tv right sky would never allow now tv on TiVo OB man

theone2k10 22-05-2016 15:22

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35839006)
you do know sky own now tv right sky would never allow now tv on TiVo OB man

TBF this is codswallop sky would probably allow nowtv on tivo if it ever came up.
Nowtv is offered on BTtv (movies only atm) also the same is on talktalk tv too as there is a nowtv app on youview (movies only for now.)
Maybe it's vm who don't want nowtv on tivo?
SKY are already making nowtv available on more devices and pvrs i believe the new freesat freetime and freeview has nowtv on too i'm not 100% sure about this though.

Mad Max 22-05-2016 15:47

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35839006)
you do know sky own now tv right sky would never allow now tv on TiVo OB man

Your negativity is astounding at times!

Dave42 22-05-2016 17:25

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35839014)
Your negativity is astounding at times!

realism so come on do you think it will happen then

OLD BOY 22-05-2016 17:28

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35839006)
you do know sky own now tv right sky would never allow now tv on TiVo OB man

Well, I know this is your mantra, Dave, but would you mind quoting a source for this?

If it means more money for Sky, why wouldn't they allow it to be on the Tivo?

Dave42 22-05-2016 18:43

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35839028)
Well, I know this is your mantra, Dave, but would you mind quoting a source for this?

If it means more money for Sky, why wouldn't they allow it to be on the Tivo?

all channels are all ready on VM apart for SA and itv encore so why would they and SA would make them money if was allowed on VM but it not and wont be at all

RichardCoulter 22-05-2016 21:09

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35838889)
http://www.a516digital.com/2016/05/s...asting-in.html

---------- Post added at 18:32 ---------- Previous post was at 18:29 ----------



Very strange. Maybe VM said they'd do it for free for the Euros but would require payment for S4C's normal schedule. But as a PSB, I thought VM would take it at no cost anyway.

Thanks for providing a link as to where the copy/pasted info came from.

I thought the same as yourself regarding S4C HD- guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens with it on cable.

Aguero9320 22-05-2016 21:18

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Originally Posted by dodo1 (Post 35838965)
When do the channels that are testing on virgin media launch?

Pass. :confused: VM are so unpredictable you don't really know.

Arthurgray50@blu 22-05-2016 21:23

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ALL, the channels that Sky have - SA and ITV encore, that VM customers want, but silly Directors wont allow it.

At the end of the day - Isn't it US the customers who should decide that.

Sky have repeatedly said that VM have been offered the channel at a price - BUT VM wont budge.

How pathetic and rather childish in my view. WE THE CUSTOMER, should decide who wants it.

We are supposed to get BT Sport FREE, but what a surprise, our subs went up.

VM are not stupid are they.

OLD BOY 23-05-2016 07:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35839045)
all channels are all ready on VM apart for SA and itv encore so why would they and SA would make them money if was allowed on VM but it not and wont be at all

What appears to be the situation is that Sky wanted to charge VM a price which would not have allowed them to make a profit without putting their rates up to customers. However, this problem would be resolved if Now TV were to be added to our apps on Tivo; those charges would be paid directly to Sky by those who wanted it without adding to the cost of the Virgin bundles of channels.

ITV Encore is exclusive to Sky for its initial period of broadcasting (we think this is for a period of 18 months to two years, which is nearly up now).

denphone 23-05-2016 08:38

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Personally l cannot see us getting ITV Encore for another 3 years.

1andrew1 23-05-2016 08:55

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35839148)
Personally l cannot see us getting ITV Encore for another 3 years.

That's rather pessimistic Den. � But saying that, if Encore was launching soon, I would have expected Media Boy to report that it was being tested but he hasn't.

andrewstevenson 23-05-2016 08:58

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35839141)
What appears to be the situation is that Sky wanted to charge VM a price which would not have allowed them to make a profit without putting their rates up to customers. However, this problem would be resolved if Now TV were to be added to our apps on Tivo; those charges would be paid directly to Sky by those who wanted it without adding to the cost of the Virgin bundles of channels.

ITV Encore is exclusive to Sky for its initial period of broadcasting (we think this is for a period of 18 months to two years, which is nearly up now).

I heard that to so sky couldn't be accused of not offering despite price being unreasonable

denphone 23-05-2016 09:00

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No its not pessimistic Andrew as my suspicions are that a exclusive 5 year deal was signed by ITV and Sky over ITV Encore and not the 2 year deal that some seem to think was signed.


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