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jonbxx 17-10-2019 09:56

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36014072)
They're doing lots of things like that in the Orkney Islands. A good programme about it on Radio 4 the other day.

Gigha on the west coast of Scotland do this too. The community bought four wind turbines which feed back in to the grid but also some giant vanadium flow batteries for an island wide UPS system - https://www.communityenergyscotland....y-overview.asp

Pierre 17-10-2019 10:34

Re: Climate Change - record World temp. rises in Feb.
 
When Direct Action meets Direct Action

https://news.sky.com/story/furious-c...-tube-11837385

papa smurf 17-10-2019 10:49

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36014179)
When Direct Action meets Direct Action

https://news.sky.com/story/furious-c...-tube-11837385

Nothing speaks louder than a good ass kicking.

mrmistoffelees 17-10-2019 13:42

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36014183)
Nothing speaks louder than a good ass kicking.


Whilst extinction rebellion themselves have admitted this mornings actions were ‘not the best’ you’re not advocating or condoning people being assaulted,surely ?

denphone 17-10-2019 13:46

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36014197)
Whilst extinction rebellion themselves have admitted this mornings actions were ‘not the best’ you’re not advocating or condoning people being assaulted,surely ?

No excuses for people being assaulted whatever side they are on end of...

Hugh 17-10-2019 13:59

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36014179)
When Direct Action meets Direct Action

https://news.sky.com/story/furious-c...-tube-11837385

Pretty stupid, disrupting public transport when one of their aims is wanting more people to use public transport.

papa smurf 17-10-2019 14:15

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36014197)
Whilst extinction rebellion themselves have admitted this mornings actions were ‘not the best’ you’re not advocating or condoning people being assaulted,surely ?

If they got in the way of me going about my lawful business i would open up a can of whoop ass on them,hope that clarifies my position ;)

OLD BOY 18-10-2019 09:21

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36014197)
Whilst extinction rebellion themselves have admitted this mornings actions were ‘not the best’ you’re not advocating or condoning people being assaulted,surely ?

It's what you get for deliberately disrupting the lives of others. I have no sympathy for these people at all. The police really need to crack down hard on XR, otherwise other groups with their bloody causes will start doing it as well.

mrmistoffelees 18-10-2019 12:51

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36014281)
It's what you get for deliberately disrupting the lives of others. I have no sympathy for these people at all. The police really need to crack down hard on XR, otherwise other groups with their bloody causes will start doing it as well.

Their actions, regardless of the disruption caused do not justify the perpetrators being assaulted including being kicked and or forcibly dragged from the top of a train. It is the polices job to handle it, not the general publics.

pip08456 18-10-2019 13:13

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36014290)
Their actions, regardless of the disruption caused do not justify the perpetrators being assaulted including being kicked and or forcibly dragged from the top of a train. It is the polices job to handle it, not the general publics.

Try telling that to the general public. By all means protest, disrupt Government departments etc but don't stop the general public getting to work. You do that at your peril.

denphone 18-10-2019 13:26

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Everybody has a right to protest as long as its peaceful and respectful but protesting on public transport was pretty foolhardy IMO although using physical force is unacceptable nevertheless whatever side it comes from.

Carth 18-10-2019 14:43

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36014290)
Their actions, regardless of the disruption caused do not justify the perpetrators being assaulted including being kicked and or forcibly dragged from the top of a train. It is the polices job to handle it, not the general publics.


Scenario:

You stand watching as a scrote is breaking into your car with the probable intention of stealing it.

do you:
a) ring the police, wait 40 minutes for them to arrive, 2 days for them to find the car burnt out, and a letter from your insurance saying it's invalid now as you made no attempt to stop the theft.
b) smack his head into the roof of your car 5 times while he was resisting a 'citizens arrest'
c) ask him for permission to take his photo so the police can trace him and slap his wrist

papa smurf 18-10-2019 14:58

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36014304)
Scenario:

You stand watching as a scrote is breaking into your car with the probable intention of stealing it.

do you:
a) ring the police, wait 40 minutes for them to arrive, 2 days for them to find the car burnt out, and a letter from your insurance saying it's invalid now as you made no attempt to stop the theft.
b) smack his head into the roof of your car 5 times while he was resisting a 'citizens arrest'
c) ask him for permission to take his photo so the police can trace him and slap his wrist

I would never disrespect my car in such a way when there is a perfectly good kerb at my feet.

mrmistoffelees 18-10-2019 15:27

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36014304)
Scenario:

You stand watching as a scrote is breaking into your car with the probable intention of stealing it.

do you:
a) ring the police, wait 40 minutes for them to arrive, 2 days for them to find the car burnt out, and a letter from your insurance saying it's invalid now as you made no attempt to stop the theft.
b) smack his head into the roof of your car 5 times while he was resisting a 'citizens arrest'
c) ask him for permission to take his photo so the police can trace him and slap his wrist

I must of missed the part where one of the individuals who assaulted a member of XR owned the train?

Pointless point... no comparison between the two scenarios.

Are you going to go and pull a truck driver from his cab and try and hit him because him and a convoy are staging a go slow protest on the motorway? Would you go and pull a farmer out of his tractor if him and a group of farmers staged a go slow on a dual carriageway?

Of course you wouldn't as you would probably get your head caved in by said truck driver or farmer....

I'm not justifying what XR did it was wrong, but the individuals who responded to them in the manner in which they did are just as bad, if not arguably worse.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36014292)
Try telling that to the general public. By all means protest, disrupt Government departments etc but don't stop the general public getting to work. You do that at your peril.


The vast majority of the British public would probably swear a bit and do some tutting. That's it....

Funny really when Nigel Farage got pelted with a milkshake there was hell on... A couple of climate protestors however get dragged of trains, get kicked. Have food and liquids thrown over them and that's OK?

Some people have a serious issue with double standards.....

OLD BOY 18-10-2019 20:21

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36014309)
I would never disrespect my car in such a way when there is a perfectly good kerb at my feet.

Yes, that's the one! :D

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36014311)
I must of missed the part where one of the individuals who assaulted a member of XR owned the train?

Pointless point... no comparison between the two scenarios.

Are you going to go and pull a truck driver from his cab and try and hit him because him and a convoy are staging a go slow protest on the motorway? Would you go and pull a farmer out of his tractor if him and a group of farmers staged a go slow on a dual carriageway?

Of course you wouldn't as you would probably get your head caved in by said truck driver or farmer....

I'm not justifying what XR did it was wrong, but the individuals who responded to them in the manner in which they did are just as bad, if not arguably worse.

---------- Post added at 14:27 ---------- Previous post was at 14:24 ----------




The vast majority of the British public would probably swear a bit and do some tutting. That's it....

Funny really when Nigel Farage got pelted with a milkshake there was hell on... A couple of climate protestors however get dragged of trains, get kicked. Have food and liquids thrown over them and that's OK?

Some people have a serious issue with double standards.....


Pointless point... no comparison between the two scenarios. In the first, a group of irritating people are trying to prevent people from going about their lawful business. In the second, a guy is going about his lawful campaigning when he is accosted by an asshole.

An assault is called for in the first example but not in the second (maybe not legally, though!)

In the absence of an adequate police response, people have to do what is necesary to get things moving again.

You do have a serious issue with double standards....


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