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So EU benefits without EU membership and no EU costs.. So every cloud does have a sterling silver lining along with the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow ;)

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That what have said all along, we need to be told pros and cons.

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You might have to wait a while...;)

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The man in the street is better of out, we will be told about all the investment and £billions that come to the UK because we're in Europe. But that doesn't effect us.

Those £Billions end up in off shore tax Havens and only benefit the already rich. But our tax money pays the £billions into Europe. The ordinary man pays a lot in but gets little out.

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:p:If you own a company and you decide you don't want to sell to 60 million people because they left Europe then I'm sure many more are happy to.

We do not need Europe,

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Correct as well as others realising that we only have viewpoints and not conclusions which may be right or wrong.

:D

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You believe you don't need Europe, but you can't really speak for the other 63 million.

As for a company... What happens to a UK company that provides services in Europe, should they go out of business and leave many unemployed as the extra cost will make their services uncompetitive compared to companies within the EU

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Boris says No

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-35626621

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What extra cost? If they want to sell to us , an we want to sell to them then we will be fine. All these "what ifs" but not one concrete example! Market forces will ensure were OK.

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The big beast that the leave campaign needed is now on board. Cameron must be sick as a parrot. :)

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UK-EU business will still happen they suddenly wont stop trading with the UK simply because we left the EU and this close down of leaving will probably take about 2-3 years anyway before we have fully left the EU.

Nothing much will change and we will no longer have to stick a broom up our backside and ask the EU for if we need the toilet.

I for one will be voting out and that Scottish bint can sod off as well any excuse to get out of england

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Well exactly.

There's a deafening silence from the Corbynistas.:erm:

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If that's what you mean by my saying "a bilateral trade deal" ie, we don't impose tarrifs on them and they don't impose them on us.......then yes, every cloud can have a sterling silver lining :shrug:

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People need to realise..

Europe is a POLITICAL union with some trade benefits. It is NOT simply a trade only Union.

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Kymmy stop with the doom & gloom :)
What happens with the company that suddenly finds itself free of EU red tape and can hence drop it's prices and sell more of it's widgets, cheaper, to the whole world?

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Exactly. It's political, first and foremost. This vote is a battle for our survival as a sovereign nation. No less. Everything else (from both sides) is window dressing and scaremongering.

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The big problem will be voters who simply vote to stay in because it is the "safe" option rather than researching the pros and cons of the argument and basing their vote on concrete information.

Lots of countries trade with the EU without actually being a member. America trades with the EU and does not have to pay VAT so long as the item purchased is solely for use outside the EU.

We are an entrepreneurial nation and are quite capable of developing business with countries all over the world, like we used to do before we joined the Common Market.

Indeed some of our existing trade with the EU will still continue because the EU needs our business just as we need theirs but without paying the VAT which should make us more competitive.

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Let's get real, £billionaires who want to get richer and are actually making the poor poorer will convince the poor to vote to stay.