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Ignitionnet 19-01-2015 07:06

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
One of those occasions I agree with David Cameron.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35753487)
I just wish the media would give more 'airtime' to people like him instead of fixating on the extremists which, let's face it, can be found amongst all communities.

Tricky not to when polls indicate the minority who hold views that would be considered extremist, even if they don't act on them, is such a sizeable one. Oddly the media don't cover that angle either, they appear to instead try and claim that people killing while shouting 'Allahu Ackbar' is nothing to do with Islam; any Islam.

Mr Angry 19-01-2015 09:41

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35753552)
they appear to instead try and claim that people killing while shouting 'Allahu Ackbar' is nothing to do with Islam; any Islam.

Remarkably the vast majority of Christians, to take one example, make the same pronouncements about people such as Breivik and Kony not killing in the name of their faith.

Ignitionnet 19-01-2015 12:03

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35753570)
Remarkably the vast majority of Christians, to take one example, make the same pronouncements about people such as Breivik and Kony not killing in the name of their faith.

Don't tempt me... ;)

Russ 04-05-2015 10:57

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...gunmen-5632641

I know, I'll poke a stick at a King Cobra then complain when it bites me.

Gary L 04-05-2015 11:09

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
You'd think they'd gone soft if they didn't do anything.

and you'd think they've gone mad if they thought they weren't gonna do anything.

nomadking 04-05-2015 11:21

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35775335)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...gunmen-5632641

I know, I'll poke a stick at a King Cobra then complain when it bites me.

So you'd be quite happy living around a large bunch of King Cobras having to constantly tiptoe around them waiting for them to attack?

Are Muslims the only ones allowed to go around killing people if they say that are offended by something or can we all join in?

Russ 04-05-2015 11:33

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35775342)
So you'd be quite happy living around a large bunch of King Cobras having to constantly tiptoe around them waiting for them to attack?

Are Muslims the only ones allowed to go around killing people if they say that are offended by something or can we all join in?

I'm assuming you've not really read much of this thread?

martyh 04-05-2015 13:27

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35775342)
So you'd be quite happy living around a large bunch of King Cobras having to constantly tiptoe around them waiting for them to attack?

Are Muslims the only ones allowed to go around killing people if they say that are offended by something or can we all join in?

This was a competition to see who could best insult Islam ,if you are going to hold a competition like that then expect some kind of retribution

Taf 04-05-2015 13:36

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35775354)
This was a competition to see who could best insult Islam ,if you are going to hold a competition like that then expect some kind of retribution

And what would have happened if they had insulted christianity, buddism, sikhism or one of the other popular mental aberrations ? :confused:

nomadking 04-05-2015 13:49

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35775354)
This was a competition to see who could best insult Islam ,if you are going to hold a competition like that then expect some kind of retribution

What was so insulting? Even if there has been something nasty about the pictures, the attackers had no idea of what was in them. They were against the principle of ANY pictures.
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Followers of Islam deem that any physical depiction of the prophet - even a positive one - is blasphemous.
The Islamic rule is JUST for Muslims, not everybody else. That is unless they are intent on imposing Islamic law on EVERYBODY. Before you know it they will be imposing things like Halal meat on people, oh wait a minute THEY ARE.

Many of the rest of "us" are offended by certain things, but not only do "we" have to put up with it, it is often FORCED upon "us".

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35775355)
And what would have happened if they had insulted christianity, buddism, sikhism or one of the other popular mental aberrations ? :confused:

Considering that happens frequently, we know the answer.

Although.
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A New Zealander and two Burmese men have been found guilty of insulting religion in Myanmar over a poster promoting a drinks event depicting Buddha with headphones.
Philip Blackwood, who managed the VGastro Bar in Yangon, was arrested in December along with bar owner Tun Thurein and colleague Htut Ko Ko Lwin.
They have each been sentenced to two and a half years in jail.
Burmese law makes it illegal to insult or damage any religion.
At least the law there applies to ALL religions.

martyh 04-05-2015 14:02

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35775355)
And what would have happened if they had insulted christianity, buddism, sikhism or one of the other popular mental aberrations ? :confused:

Probably nothing at all which is the whole point :rolleyes: ,this competition was designed to provoke a reaction from known extremists ,the organisers didn't have a competition of cartoons of Jesus because it wouldn't get a reaction

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35775356)
What was so insulting? Even if there has been something nasty about the pictures, the attackers had no idea of what was in them. They were against the principle of ANY pictures.
The Islamic rule is JUST for Muslims, not everybody else. That is unless they are intent on imposing Islamic law on EVERYBODY. Before you know it they will be imposing things like Halal meat on people, oh wait a minute THEY ARE.

Many of the rest of "us" are offended by certain things, but not only do "we" have to put up with it, it is often FORCED upon "us".

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I don't actually think it possible to miss the point any more than you just did

Maggy 04-05-2015 15:14

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35775358)
Probably nothing at all which is the whole point :rolleyes: ,this competition was designed to provoke a reaction from known extremists ,the organisers didn't have a competition of cartoons of Jesus because it wouldn't get a reaction

The irony is that if they did he would be depicted as white rather than the Arabic/Judean that he was.

martyh 04-05-2015 15:29

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35775382)
The irony is that if they did he would be depicted as white rather than the Arabic/Judean that he was.

Indeed,I never saw an Arabic Jesus on the cross in all those bible belt towns they have in America........I wonder why

Russ 04-05-2015 18:15

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35775354)
This was a competition to see who could best insult Islam ,if you are going to hold a competition like that then expect some kind of retribution

Exactly and I can't understand why otherwise-intelligent people can't get their heads around this.

Do I think people are being over-sensitive at being insulted at these cartoons? Of course I do. But to then act surprised when the nutters react in that way after being provoked is utter stupidity.

Ignitionnet 04-05-2015 18:25

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Zero surprise it happened, doesn't mean any accommodation should be given.

Look on the bright side, such actions are illegal here and indeed should Labour be elected we'll pretty much have blasphemy laws. Very progressive, open-minded and 21st century.


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