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martyh

24-10-2012 19:54

re: Operation Yewtree

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35488597)

Wrong!

I suggest with allegations of rape it is better for the police to investigate not public institutions.Rape is a crime that needs very sensitive handling and I suggest that the BBC possibly do not have the necessary skills and resources to conduct an investigation.

and that falls into the category of when a possible crime has been uncovered which as i said should be reported to the police ,all the BBC is investigating is the roll it's directors and other members of staff have played in the affair which is perfectly proper

colin25

24-10-2012 19:55

re: Operation Yewtree

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35488597)

BBC will investigate their internal processes, handling of complaints etc. The actual crimes will be the Police

RichardCoulter

24-10-2012 20:23

re: Operation Yewtree

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35488441)

i didn't say he was DG then. But he was in charge of tribute programming, and should have at least asked the question.

And the BBC is in focus, because they should have done more, as a public company. But chose to ignore. Hence the focus on them, but not to exclusion of others, hence the other stories coming out.

I am all "henced" out now :)

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I suspect that inquiry will be a bit of a dead end.

I wonder if they will exhume any bodies for DNA?

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35488437)

It's not entirely surprising though, is it. While the State decrees that sex under the age of 16 is illegal, the State on the other hand is quite willing to hand out contraception, up to and including the morning after pill, to underage girls, not always with the knowledge of the child's parents.

The notion that underage, teenage sex is tolerated, if not technically approved of, has become embedded in our society, and all we have left is a messy, ill-defined debate over exactly when it should be treated as a crime and when it should simply be covered up with a quick, secret visit to Boots.

Until we resolve that central contradiction in public morals, there will be very many people up and down the country watching this story unfold on their TVs and in the newspapers, quietly thinking what Rippon is supposed to have said aloud.

oops, my post should have read "pre pubescent" after "post pubescent."

You make a very good point there.

Sirius

28-10-2012 07:33

re: Operation Yewtree

Looks like the arrests have started

http://news.sky.com/story/1003744/ga...ning-by-police

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Pop star Gary Glitter has been taken from his home by officers and is to be questioned at a London police station.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

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Former pop star Gary Glitter has been arrested on suspicion of sex offences by police investigating Jimmy Savile abuse claims.

Glitter has previously been jailed for child sex offences in Vietnam.

The Met said Glitter had been taken away from his home in central London.

Police are investigating allegations that the late TV presenter Savile sexually abused some 300 young people over a 40-year period.

They have described the former BBC DJ him as a "predatory sex offender".

Now we find out how deep the rabbit hole goes ?

denphone

28-10-2012 08:13

re: Operation Yewtree

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35489696)

Looks like the arrests have started

http://news.sky.com/story/1003744/ga...ning-by-police

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

Now we find out how deep the rabbit hole goes ?

l suspect the rabbit hole is very deep and its going to take some time before the get to the bottom of that hole.

Hom3r

28-10-2012 11:44

re: Operation Yewtree

I'm wondering how many "well respected" TV/Radio celebs will be involved.

denphone

28-10-2012 11:49

re: Operation Yewtree

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35489746)

I'm wondering how many "well respected" TV/Radio celebs will be involved.

Rumour has it a famous comedian is possibly involved.

Chris

28-10-2012 13:50

re: Operation Yewtree

Several posts removed. Please *do not* accuse living people of criminal activity. Restrict your posts to information that is not likely to be construed either as contempt of court or libel.

martyh

28-10-2012 19:20

re: Operation Yewtree

It seems that some members of his family knew he molested children but turned a blind eye because the rewards where so good

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Jimmy Savile's great-niece has told Sky News she believes some members of his family knew of what they called his 'dark side' - but that they turned a blind eye to it.
Caroline Robinson, 49, has said she was sexually abused by Savile at a family gathering when she was 12-years-old and again at an engagement party when she was 15.

http://news.sky.com/story/1003931/ji...-his-dark-side

Gary L

28-10-2012 20:16

re: Operation Yewtree

Why did they have to be boring and knock Gary Glitters door first?

go and knock the others and give us some excitement!

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35489747)

Rumour has it a famous comedian is possibly involved.

A live one, or a dead one?

Stuart

29-10-2012 12:10

re: Operation Yewtree

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35489747)

Rumour has it a famous comedian is possibly involved.

I can think of several who I could believe would be involved. I won't name them however, as I don't want to get either myself or the site into trouble.

On a slightly different note, it seems that the man running Children In Need banned Jimmy Savile from working on Children in Need, and the only reason he didn't report Jimmy is that he only ever heard rumours, but never saw evidence.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...n-in-need.html and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20120302

I think that is the problem. A lot of people heard rumours, but not a lot actually had evidence. To act against a person in Jimmy's position, even people in the BBC management would have needed evidence. Based on various things I have read, Jimmy would not have hesitated to launch legal action (or take other actions like cancel donations to charity) against anyone who would have accused him of this. I also don't doubt for a second that he would have gone out of his way to end the career of anyone below him who he thought had grassed on him.

The problem is, it seems, that he was extremely good at frightening those who might have been able to give evidence against him.

Damien

29-10-2012 12:45

re: Operation Yewtree

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35490133)

A lot of people heard rumours, but not a lot actually had evidence. To act against a person in Jimmy's position, even people in the BBC management would have needed evidence. Based on various things I have read, Jimmy would not have hesitated to launch legal action (or take other actions like cancel donations to charity) against anyone who would have accused him of this. I also don't doubt for a second that he would have gone out of his way to end the career of anyone below him who he thought had grassed on him.

This is crucial yet is almost wilfully ignored in a rush to find someone to blame for the actions of a man who is cannot be held to account. We know he was a paedophile so how could these people not know? It's easy to be wise in hindsight. It's entirely different if the guy is a national hero, you're not aware of any substantial claims made against him, but you've heard from many that he is a 'dirty old man' (as people euphemistically put it).

Pierre

30-10-2012 21:16

re: Operation Yewtree

Gary glitter implicated, no surprise there.

Freddie Starr , vowing to clear his name.

How many many celebs are involved?

[Mod Edit - potentially libelous comment removed]

Hugh	31-10-2012 09:04

re: Operation Yewtree

As stated in the previous page of this thread, please *do not* accuse living people of criminal activity.

Restrict your posts to information that is not likely to be construed either as contempt of court or libel.

Pierre

31-10-2012 09:35

re: Operation Yewtree

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35490785)

Well for a start Jeremy Beadle died 4 years ago, and secondly it was a joke...............Which I thought was quite funny, but that's a matter of personal taste.

Feel free to reinstate the post at your earliest convenience, unless you intend to censor the joke?

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