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A very significant chunk but by no means all of them.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/pk.html

Of course I'd imagine the proportions of people not following the official religion would drop outwith the country.

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Never said Indians were Muslims did I? Please show me where I said it if I did.

Indians are Hindu Sieks like I stated well back in the thread.

Again like I mentioned well back Asia covers a massive area and just doesn't take in Pakistan and India.

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I asked you:

You replied:

In the links you've provided many have said Asian, not Muslim yet you've assumed that they are.

See there you go again. No, they're not. My OH and her family are not "Hindu Siek(sp)".

Yes I know, one of the few correct facts you've post.

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FFS.

Give up will you two.

You know the point Nidge is making. These Asian sex rings would appear to be predominantly Muslim.

Unless you have records as to the religion of every man implicated you cannot assert that it is 100% an Islamic issue.

But I think we can all agree, it certainly seem to slant that way. So Nidge has a valid point.

Until we have such information, we cannot say for certain that all the men are Muslims so you also have a point.

Both points are valid. Give it a rest. The last several pages of this thread have been trivial, childish, and very dull.

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That's not in doubt, in fact I've argued that point several time in this thread.

Not at all - he has this view that just because they are Indian, Pakistani etc then they must be Muslim.

Also apparently "all" Muslims consider British white women to be 'trash' - that's also BS.

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Obviously everything has got to be 100% correct with Russ. :rolleyes:

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Oh FFS get a grip man will you.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24075588


I recall thinking that the Data Protection Act would have unintended consequences and this seems to be one such. The police cited data protection law for serious failures relating to information regarding Ian Huntley years ago and now there's this which is very probably just another example of how well intentioned laws can have massive implications which weren't thought through at the time.

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There were 2 main problems with the Ian Huntley situation. First, he was never convicted of anything, second it was his girlfriend, Maxine Carr, that provided the link to the school. He worked at the building next door to the school. That next door building just happened to be another school. It could have been a factory etc or he could have worked in another building, even in another town. They went to the house to see Maxine Carr, not him. If CRB checks had been in place at that time, it wouldn't have changed anything, as it was his girlfriend Maxine Carr who was the teaching assistant and she would have passed the checks.

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IIRC the police involved deleted records they held about Huntley because they believed they would be in breach of the DPA if they were retained. The problem with laws like the DPA is that they have far reaching ramifications and the more complex they are the more there is the chance that they will be misinterpreted as was the case with Huntley. When I started my own business I presented my case for not requiring registration to the DPR office and, in view of their uncertainty, was asked if I'd like to be a test case. Laws like the DPA have very far reaching effects and it's clear (as with health & safety) that not enough is done to educate those bound by these laws in the scope of the law and their responsibilities. It's all become hugely complicated and when various groups, people and organisations are not completely clear about the rules, there's a very strong likelihood that things will go wrong and laws designed to protect people wind up having the opposite effect.

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The records only contained accusations and suspicions. Still doesn't change the fact that Ian Huntley could have been working anywhere. The problem was that his girlfriend worked at a school, not whether he did.

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I'm not arguing about Huntley's prosecution or the murders he committed, merely pointing out that Data Protection issues, specifically confusion by the police relating to the rules, caused a serious mistake to be made. It may not have affected the outcome in the Soham case but it could have in many other cases we don't and may never know about. It appears these 'unintended consequences' are still coming to light as highlighted by Gove's statement referred to above in relation to data protection and secrecy regarding children's welfare.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-22793664

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24079667

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http://thebackbencher.co.uk/white-gi...-sexual-abuse/ . It's not just white non muslim girls being groomed by asian/muslim men

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Any lack of comment from the media, BNP, or, EDL, as criticised in the article, will be down to the report only coming out a few days ago and that there are no court cases involved. When court cases are involved there is an element of evidence and not just hearsay. They would be better asking why Muslims that are in the know about it, don't come forward.

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I don't think anyone is saying they target only whites.

Have you noticed how in these cases of gangs the vast majority (usually all) of the men are Asian?

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The main factor will be, are there any white girls available to them? If not, then they will have to choose others.