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nstokes 26-11-2012 13:10

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35502323)
You've got to remember that the stewards will have a computer plan of the circuit which shows them live and also re-viewable all cars and all lights/flags at any time during the race. I believe any indiscretions are automatically flagged on this system which will including speeding in the pit lane, false starts..etc...

Ya true i suppose

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35502325)
Congrats to Vettel.

Feel bad for Hamilton this year. His luck has been just been non-existent paired with a car with serious reliability issues. Hamilton gets hit and it ends his race, Seb takes a hit and he somehow still walks away world champion, says it all really.

If Hamilton had Vettel's luck this year and even a half reliable car, he'd have ran away with this title.

Can't deny it made for one of the best season's I've seen.

Onto 2013 :D

I agree. Lewis would have won. Roll on March 2013

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35502345)
Yes indeed, some great discussions although I do apologise for coming over as a grumpy old git yesterday. Certainly one of the best seasons I have known for a long time, here's hoping that 2013 will be just as good.

I forgive you

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35502368)
I'm astounded he still has a drive next year Grosjean. Had Schumacher not retired again, do we think Hamilton would have signed a new deal with McLaren?

Yes

adzii_nufc 26-11-2012 13:10

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
Lewis was distressed by McLaren at the time Mercedes were on the prowl for a new driver, pot luck for the Merc lot.

Lewis would have likely remained but the same situation may have arisen next season if his McLaren was just as poor as it has been this year.

If the car is as poor next season then I believe Lewis' move was inevitable.

However I believe if he'd stuck next year out with McLaren he'd have been a Red Bull driver in 2014.

Pierre 26-11-2012 14:15

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
Gutted Vettel won.

Great race though.

Kymmy 28-11-2012 21:58

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
LOL, Ferrari I think have been readint he forums as now they are considering a protest
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20531638

MalteseFalcon 28-11-2012 23:23

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
Couldn't make it up could you really? No way to win a title imo.

jempalmer 29-11-2012 01:27

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
That's a crock. If they had good reason to protest then why has it taken this long? First they break a gearbox seal to put Alonso ahead at the previous GP and now this. Ferrari are ******s :(

adzii_nufc 29-11-2012 03:59

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35503619)
Couldn't make it up could you really? No way to win a title imo.

Indeed, It's a disgrace if a world title is decided off the track. At the same time if what Vettel did was against the rules then it should be punished. Such an awkward situation.

nstokes 29-11-2012 08:15

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
Ive seen the footage of the overtake it it really is clear that Vettel passed a Toro Rosso under yellow flags. From what was on BBC Radio 2 this morning Ferrai dont need to appeal as it already goes to the stewards. If Vettel is found guilty then he will get 20 seconds added to his time which puts him form 6th place to 8th place. That means Alonso will win the title by 1 point.

I hope he gets punished but im not holding my breathe

denphone 29-11-2012 08:17

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35503679)
Ive seen the footage of the overtake it it really is clear that Vettel passed a Toro Rosso under yellow flags. From what was on BBC Radio 2 this morning Ferrai dont need to appeal as it already goes to the stewards. If Vettel is found guilty then he will get 20 seconds added to his time which puts him form 6th place to 8th place. That means Alonso will win the title by 1 point.

I hope he gets punished but im not holding my breathe

Its not exactly the right and proper way to decide a world title though is it.:td:

nstokes 29-11-2012 08:41

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35503680)
Its not exactly the right and proper way to decide a world title though is it.:td:

No i agree but if Vettel had 'cheated' by doing an illegel overtake to win then the title then he has to be punished and to loose the extra points he gained

Saaf_laandon_mo 29-11-2012 11:06

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35503686)
No i agree but if Vettel had 'cheated' by doing an illegel overtake to win then the title then he has to be punished and to loose the extra points he gained

It all hinges on whether a marshall was waving a green flag just after turn 3 doesnt it. Crucially the panel can take into account whether they think Vettel, if he had been penalised at the time, could have made up the places and still finished in a title winning position.

I really hope that Vettel is not demoted.

Kymmy 29-11-2012 11:20

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
Doubtful, the race is over and so is the season, if it was found to be a problem they'd just be likely to issue a fine or a grid drop for the next race though as it'll be a new season even a grid drop is unlikely.

nstokes 29-11-2012 12:49

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
Vettel commieted no offence say the FIA

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20541589

denphone 29-11-2012 12:49

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
FIA believes Sebastian Vettel has no case to answer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20541589

That puts a end to it.

nstokes 29-11-2012 13:00

Re: Formula 1 2012 season
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35503844)
FIA believes Sebastian Vettel has no case to answer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20541589

That puts a end to it.

Indeed sadly it does. I still believe the overtake was illegal and so do other people i have spoke to


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