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Alan Fry 30-01-2012 14:00

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35372171)
Do you mean like these ones we have, or are negotiating with (bilaterally, not as part of the EU), such as Singapore, USA, Canada, Mexico, Free Trade Area of the Americas (34 countries), Bangladesh, China, India, Japan, Australia, South Korea, Malaysia, Taiwan, amongst others?

Yes, a sort of Commonwealth Free Trade Area

Sirius 30-01-2012 14:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35372171)
Do you mean like these ones we have, or are negotiating with (bilaterally, not as part of the EU), such as Singapore, USA, Canada, Mexico, Free Trade Area of the Americas (34 countries), Bangladesh, China, India, Japan, Australia, South Korea, Malaysia, Taiwan, amongst others?

I was just searching for that info. Thanks Hugh :tu:

So in fact we already trade with most of the world and don't need any fancy USOE or need to be IN the euro

Osem 30-01-2012 21:19

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16803157

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Twenty-five of the EU's 27 member states have agreed to join a fiscal treaty to enforce budget discipline.

The Czech Republic and the UK refused to sign up. The UK's position was already well known, while the Czechs cited "ratification reasons".

Sirius 30-01-2012 21:57

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35372362)

So does this mean the Germans get to parachute in there fiscal control people to those who do not play the EU game as per this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16773974

Maggy 30-01-2012 23:43

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35372390)
So does this mean the Germans get to parachute in there fiscal control people to those who do not play the EU game as per this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16773974

I suspect that may give some to pause for thought because that would really considered a direct attack on sovereignty of nations.Cue for even more riots.

Alan Fry 31-01-2012 08:36

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35372362)

This means that we are are even closer to a United States of Europe, but whenever we join it is a another matter...

denphone 31-01-2012 08:55

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35372512)
This means that we are are even closer to a United States of Europe, but whenever we join it is a another matter...

There is no chance of us joining it.:td:

Alan Fry 31-01-2012 08:57

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35372528)
There is no chance of us joining it.:td:

It either the United States of Europe or the United States of America we would end up joining

denphone 31-01-2012 08:59

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35372530)
It either the United States of Europe or the United States of America we would end up joining

No we are the good old British Isles and most people want it to stay that way.

Alan Fry 31-01-2012 09:04

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35372531)
No we are the good old British Isles and most people want it to stay that way.

Well whatever we do, we are ultimately controlled from China

gba93 31-01-2012 10:14

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35372533)
Well whatever we do, we are ultimately controlled from China

History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans

Alan Fry 31-01-2012 10:18

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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35372577)
History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans

You are right, Britain is a hard place to invade, just ask the Germans, Romans and French!

denphone 31-01-2012 10:26

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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35372577)
History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans

Exactly and you know your British history very well as well.

Hugh 31-01-2012 12:36

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35372580)
You are right, Britain is a hard place to invade, just ask the Germans, Romans and French!

You may get a different answer if you ask the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings - and the Romans managed it for nearly 400 years.....;)

gba93 31-01-2012 12:40

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35372704)
You may get a different answer if you ask the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings - and the Romans managed it for nearly 400 years.....;)

But they had a hell of a hard time, lost a lot of men (not always Roman admittedly), couldn't conquer some parts (Scotland for instance) and finally left down-beat and sodden (due to our lovely weather)


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