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wwe 17-10-2010 18:42

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
not happy yet again liverpool lose

Damien 17-10-2010 18:43

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Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35110142)
not happy yet again liverpool lose

Not happy eh? Why would that be?

Niles Crane 17-10-2010 22:24

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Wayne Rooney has thrown Manchester United's season into a state of turmoil after informing the club he has no plans to sign another contract and intends to find new employers. Rooney's decision is based on serious differences with Sir Alex Ferguson, the Guardian understands, and will be a devastating blow to the supporters who have come to regard him as a talismanic figure in this troubled era under Malcolm Glazer's ownership.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...chester-united
Oh dear.

SB_07 17-10-2010 22:25

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Rooney to City.

Damien 18-10-2010 06:49

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Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 35110227)
Rooney to City.

Or Chelsea. City don't need any more high wages otherwise the UEFA fair play rules will certainly be unachievable. Chelsea have an aging squad and the money to do the deal.

Alternatively there is speculation of a money + player deal with Madrid. They get Rooney, United get Benzema plus some cash (I imagine around £10 million).

sherer 18-10-2010 10:02

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losing Rooney would be a disaster. We are meant to be the biggest club in the world and as such we need a core group of players who are world class. Rooney is that and apart from Vidic and Evra we are lacking in world class players. Maybe you could add Rio into that list when fit and on form.

Berbs is good but there are doubts if he can maintain form and Scholes and Giggs are about to draw their pensions soon. Nani is great one week and the next can't even hit the ball.

Losing Rooney will lower the standard at the club and don't see players like Mecheda, Wellbeck, Chico and others being in that same league

Uncle Peter 18-10-2010 16:19

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35110267)
Or Chelsea. City don't need any more high wages otherwise the UEFA fair play rules will certainly be unachievable. Chelsea have an aging squad and the money to do the deal.

Alternatively there is speculation of a money + player deal with Madrid. They get Rooney, United get Benzema plus some cash (I imagine around £10 million).

Or Rooney has to accept that any notion his agent or the press may have about earning £300K per week is pure fantasy. Man City's revenue last season just about broke the £100M mark and their wage bill for this season seems to have outstripped that already. No champions league football yet either.

I'd like to see how these fair play rules are going to pan out. On paper it seems like a good idea but I really can't see how they can be enforced to the letter of the law without a massive amount of upheaval. No club can take a top 4 finish for granted so a loss of champions league revenue will have to be factored into any shrewd manager's books, no club can afford to sail too close to the wind in this respect. Been said many times though: someone will surely find a creative way around the rules, but I hope not.

Damien 18-10-2010 16:21

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It will be a big loss for United but really the die has been cast. He has mentally checked out since the end of last season and challenging Alex Ferguson was a big mistake. Even if he changes his mind, even if this was a spectacularly misguided negotiation tactic, he isn't long for the squad. Ferguson won't allow insubordination within this squad and Rooney will join the list of players kicked out of United for allowing their personal life to interfere or challenging the manager.

The question is will he be shipped out in the summer or is the relationship so bad that United will attempt to be rid of him in January. Will Rooney play first team football until he departs, if not will that cause disharmony in the squad? If he does, will that allow bridges to be mended?

TheDaddy 18-10-2010 16:31

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35110435)
Or Rooney has to accept that any notion his agent or the press may have about earning £300K per week is pure fantasy. Man City's revenue last season just about broke the £100M mark and their wage bill for this season seems to have outstripped that already. No champions league football yet either.

Contracts signed before this summer aren't included in the fair play rules

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Been said many times though: someone will surely find a creative way around the rules, but I hope not
I hope they do tbh how many more times will Real Madrid sell their training ground to the government, seems to me the rules are in place to stop teams like City gate crashing the big boys Champions League club after all soft debts to a sugar daddy are a lot easier to deal with than loans from banks and hedge funds. I think they'll have a bit of bother enforcing the so called 'mates rates' sponsorship rules as well.

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Or Rooney has to accept that any notion his agent or the press may have about earning £300K per week is pure fantasy
You're right £300k is pure fantasy, they are talking of £500k a week, half a million quid a week for playing football, the world has truely gone mad, there is no way a Spanish club rates him highly enough to pay even a third of that.

sherer 18-10-2010 17:57

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35110440)
Contracts signed before this summer aren't included in the fair play rules



I hope they do tbh how many more times will Real Madrid sell their training ground to the government, seems to me the rules are in place to stop teams like City gate crashing the big boys Champions League club after all soft debts to a sugar daddy are a lot easier to deal with than loans from banks and hedge funds. I think they'll have a bit of bother enforcing the so called 'mates rates' sponsorship rules as well.



You're right £300k is pure fantasy, they are talking of £500k a week, half a million quid a week for playing football, the world has truely gone mad, there is no way a Spanish club rates him highly enough to pay even a third of that.

Am I reading that right then. So when these UEFA rules come into force only new players or players signed to new contracts will be included in this new wage structure ?

Kind of defeats the object of having the rule

punky 18-10-2010 19:22

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35110313)
losing Rooney would be a disaster. We are meant to be the biggest club in the world and as such we need a core group of players who are world class. Rooney is that and apart from Vidic and Evra we are lacking in world class players. Maybe you could add Rio into that list when fit and on form.

Berbs is good but there are doubts if he can maintain form and Scholes and Giggs are about to draw their pensions soon. Nani is great one week and the next can't even hit the ball.

Losing Rooney will lower the standard at the club and don't see players like Mecheda, Wellbeck, Chico and others being in that same league

You'll just fall on the old stand-by of buying the world's best players. Your team name alone carries more weight than wages and you can still pull your weight with transfer fees.

I really don't think attracting decent players is something you should be unduly concerned about.

yesman 18-10-2010 19:42

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We should find out tomorrow what is happening from SAF, well hopefully....

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Ferguson will doubtless be questioned on the issue on Tuesday when he is due to attend a press conference ahead of United's Champions League encounter with Turkish champions Bursaspor.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ne-Rooney.html

colin25 18-10-2010 19:47

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rooney and tevez would be good combo :D

And torres on the bench

yesman 18-10-2010 19:55

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How does this look to you City supporters ? :erm:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/10/24.jpg

Damien 18-10-2010 20:01

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Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35110511)
We should find out tomorrow what is happening from SAF, well hopefully....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ne-Rooney.html

He'll say everything is fine or avoid the question.

Anyone think the pressure is getting to Hodgson? His press statements about Liverpool playing so well as well as little gem: "I refuse to sit here and accept that we were outplayed or in any way inferior" were impressive displays of delusion.


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