Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35027928)

Arthur bless you you really do get yourself all worked up lol and clearly facts then become redundent in your world. Riddle me this Arthur who was it that managed to take a stable economy that was growing and turn it into this deficit ???. Who was it that went on a stupid increase of the public sector that was completely unsustainable in order to falsely manipulate figures ???. Who is now going to have to take all the brown stuff for sorting it all out as usual yes thats right the torys although maybe this time a little of the dirt will fall onto the lib dems as well.

Labour will do what it always does create a god awful mess leave it to others to sort out and then when it's all sorted and things are back on an evenish keel will come back telling us all how nasty said party/parties that sorted the mess out are and how we deserve more. Like complete brain dead monkeys the majority will then vote them in as being pampered sounds good and the cycle starts all over again.

Yes this is going to be a painful few years for UK plc and sadly it has to happen and nobody who got voted in could have done anything but what is going to be done and never was going to be able too despite what a red tinged party was promising when it wanted us to vote them back in. Incapacity benefit can be reduced easily you simply get off all the people that were put on it under labour for no reason other then making unemployment figures look better about a million of them.

But none of that is any good unless said people have a job to go to and private sector jobs are better then public jobs whihc as we have seen have drained the country for the last decade. Are some front line services going to be cut i don't know for sure but i would guess some will have to be and again there is no choice.

As for your "lets cut mp's salarys" yeah another gem of an idea from the world of Arthur lets put them all on minimum wage and make the job completely unappealing to the people with the experience and knowledge needed to run decent government we can then truly vote in chimps and ride that train all the way down to a level we can never get back from. Like it or not Arthur sometimes you have to pay decent money to get decent people or at the very least stand a chance of getting decent people.

Your an analogue tv in a digital era Arthur and the time for class warriors like you has thankfully gone and most of us can see things clear enough to disregard old battle lines and move onto modern thinking and solutions. Come on Arthur join the majority of us in this century it's a lot better then you think :).

Originally Posted by Julian Glover for The Guardian

Voters approve of the Conservative-Liberal Democrat government so far, according to the first Guardian/ICM poll to be published since the general election.

There is also widespread support for changes to the electoral system, with people apparently sanguine about the prospect of further hung parliaments.

But today's poll suggests the Lib Dems have suffered some damage after deciding to join the Tories in government, with almost a fifth of those who backed the party this month saying they might be less likely to do so in the future. Support for the party has also dropped three percentage points since the general election, to 21% – although that remains higher than in many pre-election ICM polls.

There is no sign of a widespread movement of Lib Dem voters to Labour, with most people who voted Lib Dem this month saying the decision to join the coalition would make no difference to their decision to support the party. A quarter say it will actually make them more likely to vote Lib Dem.

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Overall, 59% of voters say they approve of the decision to form a coalition and 32% oppose it. Tory voters are most enthusiastic, with 81% in favour and only 16% against. People who voted Lib Dem are slightly less keen about the deal that put the Conservative leader David Cameron in power, with 69% in favour and 26% against.

Labour voters are understandably less convinced, with 51% against and 40% in favour.

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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 35029113)

I don't know about any of this. On the one hand, don't the Tories have a majority, slimmer than a supermodel though it is?

On the other hand, it's interesting how quickly opposing parties jumped into bed with each other, isn't it? Ostensibly their ideals and principles (don't laugh, I'm not being sarcastic...yet) are incompatible, so the whole coalition idea seems a bit hypocritical.

I still think Harold Saxon, a.k.a. the Master, had the right idea. He knew what to do with people who would so readily abandon their principles and jump on the band wagon: he gassed 'em all!

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 35029042)

And just in case anyone had any remaining doubts that labour didn't know just how bad things were.



http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...he-green-room/

Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 35029113)

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35029125)

Silly you, you missed something from the quote, here, let me help:

There, that's better, isn't it.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35029178)

I think it's you that needs to re-read the article.

Here is the only qualification that he gives to the material he then goes on to discuss:


The material he then imparts we can take to be genuine. It was not reported as news at the time because nobody would go on the record to confirm it. This is not surprising; the BBC's rules on reporting single-source or anonymous, uncorroborated sources is well known, especially post-Hutton.

If you are allowing the fact that he chose to use the word 'gossip' in the next sentence to blind you to this, then so far as I can see you are either wilfully doing so, or else you have serious difficulty with some of the subtleties of English communication. Perhaps you could say which.

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35029190)

Oh come on. I really don't find it credible that even you believe that. Unnamed sources..., insiders say..., word on the street...., come on, really.