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TheDaddy 14-06-2010 16:36

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35040603)
Where have these "attacks" manifested themselves? What is the source of this quote? Do I really need to ask?

The source is just about every newspaper in the country. There hasn't been any attack yet, just the expected bunch of internet freaks and loons posting threats of potential visits. I am glad the police are taking the threats seriously to, anyone with any experience of some of these animal rights extremists knows what they are capable of.


martyh 14-06-2010 16:50

Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35040603)
Where have these "attacks" manifested themselves? What is the source of this quote? Do I really need to ask?

Thats right Flyboy deny that threats have been made the same way you denied it was a fox that caused the injuries in the first place :rolleyes:

Hears an idea that should keep the "toffs" and the sensible working classes happy ...instead of fox hunting how about activist hunting ....40 foxhounds chasing some animal rights idiots through the woods

Flyboy 14-06-2010 17:40

Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35040763)
The source is just about every newspaper in the country. There hasn't been any attack yet, just the expected bunch of internet freaks and loons posting threats of potential visits. I am glad the police are taking the threats seriously to, anyone with any experience of some of these animal rights extremists knows what they are capable of.


Is this supposed to be proof?

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Scotland Yard said there were “no specific threats"

Sirius 14-06-2010 17:44

Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35040763)
The source is just about every newspaper in the country. There hasn't been any attack yet, just the expected bunch of internet freaks and loons posting threats of potential visits. I am glad the police are taking the threats seriously to, anyone with any experience of some of these animal rights extremists knows what they are capable of.

Have you ever seen the result of a visit by the Fox hunting extremists

http://www.realca.co.uk/diary_of_violence.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle421146.ece

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A DEATH threat by hunt extremists to Ben Bradshaw, the Animal Welfare Minister, has prompted police to review protection of anti-hunt ministers and MPs for the General Election campaign.

Mr Bradshaw told The Times that a menacing message warning him that his life was in danger was left on his Exeter constituency office answerphone. The threat by an intimidating male voice frightened his assistants and left them distraught. “I did not hear the message myself but it was clear they were out to get me,” he said.
So who are the terrorists now ???

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co....us39.954323.jp

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Hunt breakaway group'reckless and dangerous'
Published Date: 24 February 2005
POLICE have launched an appeal to hunt down 14 mounted supporters who broke away from the Percy Hunt's procession on Saturday and wreaked havoc through Alnwick town centre.
More than 500 members and supporters of the Percy Hunt gathered at the Pastures to show their solidarity and determination to continue their sport despite the enactment of the hunting ban.
As a procession of 150 or more mounted followers made their

way past Alnwick Castle and down Bailiffgate to the Kennels, 14 mounted supporters broke away and made their way through the town centre to the astonishment of many Saturday shoppers.
According to police, the riders galloped up Narrowgate into Bondgate Withinwithout stopping to check for on-coming traffic, causing petrified shoppers to seek safety in many town centre shops.
I could go on but i think you get the idea that there is idiots on both sides of the coin.

Flyboy 14-06-2010 17:46

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35040770)
Thats right Flyboy deny that threats have been made the same way you denied it was a fox that caused the injuries in the first place :rolleyes:

So, still no evidence, apart from a few right-wing newspapers' guesses. A few people have suggested, as some have on here, that it might not have been a fox. Sorry, but I don't consider that to be a threat and quite frankly, I am surprised that you do.

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Hears an idea that should keep the "toffs" and the sensible working classes happy ...instead of fox hunting how about activist hunting ....40 foxhounds chasing some animal rights idiots through the woods
Why have you brought class into this particular part of the discussion?

Sirius 14-06-2010 17:54

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35040770)
Thats right Flyboy deny that threats have been made the same way you denied it was a fox that caused the injuries in the first place :rolleyes:

Hears an idea that should keep the "toffs" and the sensible working classes happy ...instead of fox hunting how about activist hunting ....40 foxhounds chasing some animal rights idiots through the woods

Well i have had my fun in the past chasing Fox hunting activists :LOL:

Stuart 14-06-2010 18:07

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35040603)
Are you saying that BoJo and Cameron have not supported fox hunting in the past? Where did I refer to their class?


So, have they supported fox hunting? I did not say they hadn't, but did say you appear to be assuming they have.

martyh 14-06-2010 18:20

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35040805)
So, still no evidence, apart from a few right-wing newspapers' guesses. A few people have suggested, as some have on here, that it might not have been a fox. Sorry, but I don't consider that to be a threat and quite frankly, I am surprised that you do.



Why have you brought class into this particular part of the discussion?


for gods sake Flyboy do you just come on here to wind people up and deny everything that doesn't fit into your way of thinking The story is all over the news it was on sky news this morning 6am ,and i daresay it will be covered by the BBC in a couple of days when they catch up with the rest of the world

Flyboy 14-06-2010 18:24

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35040830)
for gods sake Flyboy do you just come on here to wind people up and deny everything that doesn't fit into your way of thinking The story is all over the news it was on sky news this morning 6am ,and i daresay it will be covered by the BBC in a couple of days when they catch up with the rest of the world

But there is no story, there are no threats, just a few people on a website saying they don't believe that it was a fox and that they don't like the mother.

What part of, “no specific threats" means that there were threats?

martyh 14-06-2010 18:33

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35040831)
But there is no story, there are no threats, just a few people on a website saying they don't believe that it was a fox and that they don't like the mother.

What part of, “no specific threats" means that there were threats?

whatever has been been happening is enough for the police to be involved or don't you believe them either :rolleyes:

and don't forget nobody has said there have been attacks it's the fear of attacks or threats the police are worried about but you keep denying it and demanding more proof

Flyboy 14-06-2010 18:39

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35040822)
So, have they supported fox hunting?

Err...that is the point of this thread, isn't it. Cameron has declared his support for fox hunting by promising to repeal the ban during this parliament and BoJo has often spoken of his support for the repeal of the ban.

But why have you raised the issue of class in this particular discussion?

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35040836)
whatever has been been happening is enough for the police to be involved or don't you believe them either :rolleyes:

Unless I missed it, I didn't read anywhere that the police said that they are concerned enough to protect them over it. My suspicion is that there is an officer in attendance (I did hear hat it was a PCSO, not an armed bodyguard), because of the press's relentless badgering of the family.

martyh 14-06-2010 18:41

Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35040837)
Err...that is the point of this thread, isn't it. Cameron has declared his support for fox hunting by promising to repeal the ban during this parliament and BoJo has often spoken of his support for the repeal of the ban.

But why have you raised the issue of class in this particular discussion?


probably the same reason as i did ....to annoy you

wether you like or not class does come into it ,wealthy people fox hunt with horses and dogs not factory workers

papa smurf 14-06-2010 18:43

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35040841)
probably the same reason as i did ....to annoy you

wether you like or not class does come into it ,wealthy people fox hunt with horses and dogs not factory workers






yes riding factory workers sporting jodhpurs and a red coat is frowned upon in the country side ;)

martyh 14-06-2010 18:43

Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35040837)
Err...that is the point of this thread, isn't it. Cameron has declared his support for fox hunting by promising to repeal the ban during this parliament and BoJo has often spoken of his support for the repeal of the ban.

But why have you raised the issue of class in this particular discussion?

---------- Post added at 18:39 ---------- Previous post was at 18:34 ----------



Unless I missed it, I didn't read anywhere that the police said that they are concerned enough to protect them over it. My suspicion is that there is an officer in attendance (I did hear hat it was a PCSO, not an armed bodyguard), because of the press's relentless badgering of the family.

then you missed it it was reported as police protection which could mean any number of things from officers at the door to them just monitoring the situation every few days

At the weekend, a Scotland Yard spokesman said it was not aware of any specific threats against the Koupparis family but there was 'concern' about internet aggression.
A police source said: 'We are aware that there is a potential threat', and an officer has been assigned to guard the family's home.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0qqnflq20

At the weekend, a Scotland Yard spokesman said it was not aware of any specific threats against the Koupparis family but there was 'concern' about internet aggression.
A police source said: 'We are aware that there is a potential threat', and an officer has been assigned to guard the family's home

Flyboy 14-06-2010 18:47

Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35040841)
probably the same reason as i did ....to annoy you

wether you like or not class does come into it ,wealthy people fox hunt with horses and dogs not factory workers

Well that's going to open up a can of worms, becasue the hunt supporters have always insisted that it is the anti-hunt lobby that is causing the class divide on this issue. They also are very keen on projecting an image of inclusion within their membership. But if you want to go against the mantra, be my guest.

---------- Post added at 18:47 ---------- Previous post was at 18:44 ----------

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35040848)
then you missed it it was reported as police protection which could mean any number of things from officers at the door to them just monitoring the situation every few days

Then please point to where the police have confirmed they are protecting this family against anti-hunt protesters, who have threatened them, because that has been the inference during this whole exchange. Also bear in mind the quote from Scotland Yard:
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there were “no specific threats"


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