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Sincerity always has that effect.:(

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I hope I didnt course offence. Its just what popped into my mind as I read it. Sorry :(

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I wouldn't worry, I was thinking of Yoda as well. ;)

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Glad I was not the only one then. Didnt mean to be offensive towards maggy j and hope it was not taken that way.

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Unfortunately, I dont believe Israel will consider a ceasefire until it has achieved its objective. Obviously targeting a UN controlled school, which had supplied its position, was a big mistake. As was the tank incident which resulted in the friendly fire deaths.

War isnt the clean "surgical" crap we see in films, its unbelievably dirty, bloody, & mentally demoralizing. Sometimes only your training, & adrenalin stops you from breaking down & just loosing it. The sights you see never leave you, ever.

I am an Atheist. I could never comprehend some men who loose their entire families, & wish no retaliation on the perpetrators. I would want revenge. Fortunately or unfortunately, thats who I am. I suppose their religion helps them through it. I imagine thats why they are unique individuals.

Human beings are capable of indescribable horrors, particularly when they have a "cause". At the end of the day, the ordinary citizen is paying the price for Hamas`s cause, & Israels security. I can not for the life of me seeing an end to this conflict. If its stopped now, it will just spark up again later on.

As with the IRA, Hamas will not win militarily, they must cease all hostilities & use the ballot box. If they continue with their cause, this conflict will not end. Both must put the past aside & work for the future, if they dont, more people, on both sides will die.

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Could this be the new Israeli flag

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Thats totally inappropriate & offensive m8.

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Amazing how somewhere that was supposedly blockaded so tight the pips squeaked has no shortage of weapons.

The smuggling tunnels must be destroyed, by air or ground attack.

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I agree, this particular symbolism is absolutely disgraceful and as someone who has been told first hand of the atrocities committed against Jewish people by the Nazis, Communists and Ukrainian nationalists in Europe between 1939 and 1945 I find this highly inappropriate :(

In no way do I condone the actions of the present Israeli administation but please do not devalue the lives of those people which have already been needlessly lost by using this symbol of utter hatred.

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but true

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Ok, meet each other half way?
So how about the palestinians are given back the land that has been taken from them and a new wall put in place?
How long before the peace is broken?

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I see the Israelis are now dropping leaflets on Gaza warning people in 'tageted areas' to leave their homes. Where do they suggest these people go to then - they're already killing entirely innocent people in supposedly 'safe' areas!

Can't they see that for every Hamas member, supporter or sympathiser they kill, many more are being created.

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The rockets are being fired from somewhere in Gaza and Palestinians on the ground will be able to see mobile rocket launchers or militants in their area, which would be a good indicator to non-militants that they should move out of that area.

Gaza is a battlefield so there are no safe areas, but the safer places are probably away from the front lines where the rocket launchers are.

The problem is that rocket launchers are mobile so that this morning's safe area becomes this afternoon's front lines.

As has been said a number of times, Hamas is the legitimate government voted in by the people.They are only now feeling the consequences of allowing Hamas to implement its policies.

By now there must be many areas within Gaza that are inhabitable and unoccupied.If Hamas is choosing to fire rockets why is it that such areas are not used. In that way no non-militants will get in the line of fire. Why is it that they choose to fire rockets from densely populated non-militant areas or use vulnerable places like hospitals and schools?

I'm glad that Israel made the effort to steer non-militants away from targeted areas. Pity really that all genuine non-militants could not be given safe Haven in Egypt until the fighting by Hamas is over.

As for Hamas members, supporters or sympathisers, at the rate things are going, there will be no Hamas members, supporters or sympathisers left to worry about, certainly not in Gaza and that is where it counts.

The world ( and forum members) will watch and wait but there is no cavalry to ride to the rescue as no other country wants to have its own nationals killed, which is understandable.

Everyone worldwide ( and on this forum) will have their own opinion about the rights and wrongs of the matter and we could debate it until Doomsday but the only opinions that count are those of the Palestinians and Israelis because they have the ones with the power to determine their own futures.

Let's pray for the non-militants caught up in this tragedy, who just want to go about their daily lives peaceably and live through the conflict.

Let's hope and pray too that common sense prevails and that the bloodshed stops, because even after all this is over the Palestinians and Israelis are still going to have to find a way to live peaceably together.