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Stop it girls!

I am not concerned about those brief regular spikes, only about the bump that is lasting from 6-10 pm. The former, I haven't a clue about. The latter affects my performance just when I need it to be top notch.

It has been apparent for about 48 hours now.

Sorry about head end misidentification Seph. My understanding of the network is not to be taken as read! What I do know is that the bumps are nothing to do with my home set up.

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Roughbeast - it's the hump I'm concerning myself with. There's still the question I posed to Dwarven about what his circuit end is doing during the hump period. Is the hump a regular occurrence now? If Dwarven were doing something like p2p or uploading, if he stopped doing that, would the hump abate?

Are Dwarven's channels the same now as they were before the hump? The answers to these questions could paint a picture of why this is happening now that we've identified from the reverse traceroute where the bottleneck appears to be.

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For my part, I have not done any P2P uploading or downloading for over a week. My bumps appear to be regular and unrelated to anything I am doing here. My only background uploading is for Livedrive. This occurs regularly throughout a 24 hour period and in response to changes in files on the drives it monitors. Its uploads are not limited to the mid-evening bump slot.

Here's a tracert taken just now. No bump ATM.


Tracing route to speedtest4.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.107.197]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms REDDWARF [192.168.1.1]
2 6 ms 9 ms 5 ms 10.14.112.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms brhm-core-2a-ae3-1179.network.virginmedia.net [2
13.106.229.161]
4 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms brhm-bb-1c-ae17-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.25
3.174.73]
5 10 ms 11 ms 16 ms nrth-bb-1c-et-400-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.
253.174.226]
6 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae11-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.25
3.174.109]
7 11 ms 11 ms 24 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
174.18]
8 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms linx-gw1.thn.ncuk.net [195.66.224.240]
9 67 ms 63 ms 69 ms speedtest4.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.107.197]

Trace complete.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

So, what you're saying is that there is regular upstream activity on your system much of the time. Is it not so that if you suspended that activity, the hump would be less pronounced? It's your contribution to the hump that I'm trying to get at. From where I'm sat (miles away), I couldn't say that what you're experiencing isn't influenced by what your system is doing. That's the challenge of diagnosis by forum!

Any change in upstream/downstream channel numbers when the hump started?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I will check channel numbers before and after this evening, and then let you know.

I understand what you are saying about my regular up load arrangements. However, these uploads are usually triggered by relatively small changes in small files on monitored drives. eg working Word or Excel files.They tend to be very brief upload sessions. Larger prolonged uploads only take place when I manually submit large video files or numerous music files to the Livedrive cloud. This I have not done for a week or so.

I also understand that my usage impinges on the over all profile of the TBB graph and that this applies whether or not there is a bump. My current upload / download patterns have applied for years now. I deliberately avoid evenings for P2P activity, such as torrents. The only thing that has changed is the evening bump. A few days ago it wasn't there, but now it is. My usage behaviour has not changed during that time. I may contribute minutely to the size of the bump, but I am not causing it, as I didn't with the virtually nationwide mid-evening bump of late 2012.

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Isp's never learn from this, even ignition who has worked for VM. Still has the belief that when speed is increased usage doesnt go up by much. He did give me some stats to back up what he said but time and time again we all see isp's get themselves into bother when they increase speeds. They they say the same thing everytime after which is they were surprised by the increased demand.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

My upstream channel hasn't changed since I got my speed upgrade at the beginning of the year, my downstream ones changed last week when I lost service for about 30 mins in the middle of the night.

I haven't done any p2p or uploading either, typically at that time of night Im playing World of Warcraft or watching tv :D

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

as I mentioned, this wasnt unique to Dwarven

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

No hump on mine last night, so it's definitely just certain users.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Power went out for lots of people near me, mines come back on but it seems most have not. I am currently enjoying a significantly less congested connection =D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/15.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

S*d*ing typical!! I did the pre-hump channel data. No peri-hump data. No hump tonight! ( Double entendre intended. )

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This seems to be down to some snap routing decisions over BT's LINX public peering. It appears to only affect traffic going over LINX' secondary public peering network, which incidentally, is where traffic from BT to TBB's ping monitor goes.

I couldn't find any other traffic that was affected, all privately peered routes were fine, all LINX primary links were fine, but everything over secondary was showing ~0.8% packet loss.

At about 5:15pm, the issues disappeared and everything went back to normal - I first noticed the problem when the throughput for the blu-ray I was streaming plumetted from 5MB/sec to 0.4MB/sec, and now that's jumped back up to full speed again too (actually it's peaking at 8MB/sec but the movie itself only averages around 5). That was transiting over LINX secondary the whole time, routing hasn't changed.

I'm not quite sure why BT is pushing so much traffic over the LINX secondary LAN, after all, they have ten times more capacity on primary than secondary. Whether it's BT's own routing to blame or like VM's issues a few months ago, due to an external network sending excess traffic the wrong way, I don't know. The issue seems to have disappeared abruptly for tonight so I can no longer trace where it is coming from.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yeah - I can back that up. 17:15 and the packet loss (at the time - not always there) stopped.

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Someones busy tonight --------

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-03-2013.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

:shocked:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...24-03-2013.png

levels getting poor

Down
55 322750000 Hz QAM256 6.0dBmV 38.6dB 317511 0
49 290750000 Hz QAM256 6.9dBmV 39.1dB 193094 0
50 298750000 Hz QAM256 6.3dBmV 38.8dB 683155 4
53 306750000 Hz QAM256 6.2dBmV 38.6dB 1585947 82
54 314750000 Hz QAM256 6.0dBmV 38.2dB 3964153 64

Up
3 27400000 Hz ATDMA 46.3 dBmV kQPSK 6400000 10240 Kbits/sec

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Want sky's number? or are you going to struggle for a while longer?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Tempting, its not been like this for months.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

The waiting was the killer. My graphs looked a lot like yours on and off for a long time.

Stress went once I switched

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Downloaded numerous GB today :)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

FTTC due end of june i think then i may be off.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Not long to wait at all. Fingers crossed :D

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

on the 22nd the day before qas posted I had a little loss (almost gone but still there), then last 2 days its back with a bang, here ie yesterday.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...24-03-2013.png

However in the past 20 mins or so BT have made a routing change, my latency has gone up, I thought they changed a setting on my line but they havent so its something done on the routing.

Here can see the routing drop but with minimal affetc on latency on my gateway.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...25-03-2013.png

Here on my line but with base latency going up.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...25-03-2013.png

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[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

As an aside, my Infinity graph had the same TBB stoppage. So TBB glitched.

In deference to the moderation, I've started an FTTC TBB thread here.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Today's packet packet lost was exactly the same and with VM and my ADSL connection
Seems was affected every service ... but VM is not via twister cable ... wonder what happened and every service same monitor packet lost issue

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Ok so that was a change tbb side then.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

virgin saying my broadband has not got high utilization .

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...5fa3b4e3c.html

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Sometimes it depends what the utilisation is like at the time you call, I'd use your graph as a reference and ask them to check upstream AND downstream at the times your graph looks pants.

From memory I think they can check back 3 days or so but if you get fobbed off use the ceo's office route

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Also depends on what Martin_Dee was doing on his own connection. That has a marked effect on TBB.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Just on this and facebook.

Attachment 24361

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Goes without saying that browsing a few web pages like those would not be causing that graph.

Keep in mind VM have been known to say there are no overutilisation problems even if they can see the problem is kissing the threshold of the point it can be passed on to the network team. Other VM staff on the other hand will say they can see the issue but it hasn't breached the limits. Not sure why there is such a discrepancy between staff on the same problem sometimes.

Bottom line, don't trust VM when they say their is no overutilasation problems.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Agreed, and it was my first thought when looking how abrupt the spikes are, I just assumed the op would know when they were spanking their own connection Seph :)

It might warrant further investigation by the op

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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Mine has been going crazy recently!

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...25-03-2013.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Reboot the super hub

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Modem mode is the long term answer.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

:D

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...27-03-2013.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Easy to imagine miniature smurfs using off-road bikes to navigate the green terrain with yellow rescue me flares are set off behind them.

That graph is a complete mess!

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

What's more, there's a negative ramp. Haven't seen that before.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Well after signing back up to VM after a year out at Sky here's my graph.

Slightly worse than it used to be but i do now have the superhub where as before i had the VMNG300. Wish i had kept it ;)
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...28-03-2013.png

Here's my Sky ADSL one from a few days before i was disconnected.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...19-03-2013.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

My Graph

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/4.png

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mine..

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Ewww!

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Not looking too good here!

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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I'm tempted to suggest that if you find a differenrt wireless solution than the SH itself, those perturbations and ramping will go away.

But you know this and may be waiting for other things to happen that might alleviate the problem.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Looks fine.

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Hallelujah its REINing men

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

correct. its starting to get worse...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-04-2013.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

That is one of the worst graphs i have ever seen. Shocking!!:td:

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How do you get packetloss like that without the maximum latency increasing? Is it something to be with it being intermittent on and off over the course of every few seconds? :confused:

Looks the the start of a horror b-movie!

---------- Post added at 17:27 ---------- Previous post was at 17:17 ----------

If memory serves correctly, they are finally due to fix the Croydon network this month which would cover thenry's area too. One could possibly assume that is a nod to those in the know about this. I left VM 4 months ago now, after waiting 7 months for them to fix my connection and then them telling me the new fix date was April 2013.

If those assumptions are correct, about time. The hardware must have been limping along like a lame one eyed dog just waiting to be put out of its misery.

Don't get what you are saying about the superhub though, unless more channels being added is causing problems with overloading the cpu of the hub?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

TH ran some experiments and Ravenstar on the VM forum built on what TH had offered. Raven's experiments were well structured and it was possible to conclude that when wireless was ON (whether or not used) the ramping effect occurred; when wireless was OFF there was no ramping. We deduced (with no absolute proof) that the hib CPU was struggling, although why doesn't that happen to all SHs?

TH has more pronounced perturbations than Raven and that might be down to Croydon - I don't know.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I can't vouch for Ravens experience. it happened here with or without wifi enabled. being in combo mode caused problems. modem mode was steady.

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Cheers, nice to know about these kinds of tests.

I would have thought that ping replies were so basic and low level that cpu load wouldn't affect them (or the silly low amount of ram) but im far from an expert in this area and have no idea how it actually works. Just did a quick google to see what chipset and if a single chip is used for all the functions but didn't find anything enlightening, except for a possibly too simple to be true way of bypassing the shubs security.

If ping replies are not dealt with by the chips own routines and is affected by firmware, that could be another avenue. But if its just a few people its unlikely unless something in that area creates a condition that brings it to light.

Interesting to say the least. If work on that area of the network is due or happening, it would be a simpler answer :D

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That's exactly what I thought (with regards to all the blood!)

As for the traffic, it's really odd. Either a packet gets through perfectly fine, or it doesn't get through at all, there is no inbetween! As of 6pm, the blood all suddenly completely vanished. Hoping it stays like that, but a mystery as to what caused it!

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Could make a guess that the gateway was confused and thought it was overloaded when it wasn't, causing it to drop icmp echo packets. Only scenario that comes to mind that would part explain it.

Fingers crossed it stays working :tu:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

The maximum latency is limited by the maximum number of retries and delay time configured on the system (which signs seem to indicate have been reduced)

---------- Post added at 04:48 ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 ----------

Because wireless is a notoriously variable medium and not all SHs exist in the same wireless environment?

---------- Post added at 04:51 ---------- Previous post was at 04:48 ----------

Others have seen the same phenomenon with wired devices, so it seems certain types or patterns of traffic cause this behaviour on the SH, regardless of where it's coming from.

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Got a feeling the firmware will get the blame again :D

Now if only you could use a web interface to upload saved superhub settings that had been modified to set usually hidden options, that allowed the shub to download a better firmware from a LAN tftp server. That would be ace ;)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

And what would you think responds to the pings other than the CPU?

The chipset and configuration of the SH has been discussed here previously.

The cable modem components are integrated in the main CPU. The LAN ports are handled by a dedicated switch chip.

Ping replies are dealt with by the OS kernel.

---------- Post added at 06:09 ---------- Previous post was at 06:08 ----------

Well there is... There's packets that get through partly and are corrected by ECC and there's packets that do not get through on first attempt and are retried.

---------- Post added at 06:12 ---------- Previous post was at 06:09 ----------

Don't even go there. You don't want to try it.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Thanks for the info. Still not sure of its an atheros/broadcom/rtl type chipset though.

I did wonder if the actual IP stack was handled on a separate chip in the same way as the LAN ports being handled with a different chip. Specialised dedicated chips taking work from the cpu is common in other areas but I wasn't sure in router technology.

So the common factors with the ramping are the cpu and kernel/firmware.

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Wouldn't let them give me a superhub, so never had one, never want one and will never get to try it ;)

When trying to fix their obvious utilisation problem, they stalled with a repull and palming me off with a vmdg280. Obviously none of that fixed their overutilisation problem but means I had beern downgraded from a modem to the 280. Didn't want to downgrade it any futher lol.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35272167-post580.html
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1097.html

Many routers, including the Superhub, can use hardware accelerated NAT which does this, but only for traffic going through the Superhub and not to/from it.

I never let them give me a Superhub either but I still ended up with two after I left VM...

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Thanks for digging out the links for me. Exactly the info I was looking for. I was looking for info on the CG3101D last night which is how I came across the alternative firmwares. No one really wants to play with that stuff due to the lowly 8mb of memory.

Not gonna ask where you got your shubs. My vmdg280 left here in a blue body bag ;)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

You can almost hear the "cogs turning" as an inspired thought enlightens the Stygian darkness…..
Only a relatively short time before someone mentions "Solar flares", "alpha particles" and "Double parity errors"…… ;)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

It has 64MB memory, which is above average and typical for high-end routers a couple years ago

---------- Post added at 19:49 ---------- Previous post was at 19:48 ----------

I would have thought beta particles would be more relevant

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Ex NTL
Upstream 36.5 dBmV
DS 1 1.0 dBmV SNR 43.2 dB
DS 2 1.1 dBmV SNR Same
DS 3 1.1 dBmV SNR Same
DS 4 0.5 dBmV SNR 43.1 dB

Today is worser and i never seen it so bad, Is the green street box overloaded because of the school holidays?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/04/29.png

Last weeks 26/03/2013 the usual Xbox 360 black ops 2 and no one eles was on the network (much smoother graph!
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...6-03-2013.html

CMTS
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/04/28.png

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...05-04-2013.png
Any one else lose the network today.

default gate way was fine but Ping and packet loss have started spiking a bit even on the gateway..
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...05-04-2013.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Mine is all fine and normal (Uddingston UBR)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Mine is fine too (Uddingston UBR)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Ta I was hoping it was VM turning off the unannounced new Traffic shaping that had effected patch downloads on Sony systems but if it was not VM wide then it was not likely that... must be just local down time o well..

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Here is mine, I am on 120Mb / 12Mb
Superhub in modem mode with a Asus RT-N66U Dark Knight Gigabit, Wireless N900 Router

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/04/5.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Hre's my graph after I disconnected

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...e91e9c97a.html

Oodly someone else is now using the IP address I had but the IP Address TBB was tracking was the one given out by my AP and not the one VM gave me.

It replys to pings too. I find that confusing. As I said it's not the IP address VM gave me. It was one my router assigned to me. Not sure how or why

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

TBB responds to the router not the modem.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

so the superhub? ah i see.

Mines still sat here turned off so I guess someone else has that IP address now. They won't be able to set up their own monitor I don't think whilst I do and I am keeping mine for research purposes.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...8-04-2013.html

Is this good or bad ? VM SH

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Fairly normal for a circuit that doesn't yet have two upstream channels at the Superhub.

Does that fit your situation? And what's wrong anyway?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yes they will

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Fair enough. It's never let me when I have tried on another machine on the same IP address.

It's not affecting them if I keep it going then

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Thanks Sephiroth for your reply

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...8-04-2013.html

Just wanted your expert opinion as to whether everything was looking ok.
Not really had a problem other that terrible buffering on TV Anwhrere (watching live channels) VM are fixing this over utilisation problem after I reported it Back in January (although they could,t explain why every other on demand player was working perfectly I.E Skygo, BBC iplayer etc)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Ah - TV Anywhere .... that depends on how you're watching it. For example iPAD (or laptop) over Wi-Fi; wireless is a Devil's science; and whether you are in rouer mode or modem mode.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I tried always.
Wired, wirelsess, all in router mode. Different times of day. Different channels.
All on my Macbook. Still the same result.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

[http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...8-04-2013.html

This was your graph. The bit that matters is the blue - the average latency. By comparison with some/many of the horrors we see on the forums, this is a reasonable graph. Is it still like that?

Have you tried working in modem mode? If it's not external (congestion) then it could be the SH router tying itself in knots as has been reported (with more radical symptoms) in THenry's Crawley thread and in Ravenstar's thread in the VM forums.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

yes you are right too many vm custemers on even shitter lines , just like i was last year my blue average was very high the graph was full of color

the jitters are bad also 3 moths ago it was perfect and only just been fixed for H.U, i can see its slowly going back to crap,

also max latency does matter its not as important
2 upstream channels will properly be the only thing to ever fix it

this is today i am getting random packet loss

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...9-04-2013.html

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

If you compare your graph (average) with KHenry's, there's not a lot of difference in the main except for the packet loss during the night.

But rhe packet loss would be a worry. It is often due to upstream noise, which isn't reported in the SH. Is there anything in your stats (like varying upstream power levels) that might indicate something out of whack?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

VM have had to remove traffic from some more Peering links because they were not working correctly for Sony provided content from multi different CDNs.
So will this increase ping times on other links during heavy traffic hours...

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Not sure where that info came from but its not like virgin media to have peering or CDN problems.....ohh... wait a minute...!

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Its just my ping time has gone down not up on the chart...( when not seeding Kubuntu )
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-04-2013.png
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-04-2013.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/04/30.jpg
was expecting the load to VM networks to increase as there are now less choice in peering access... or does it not work that way.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Peers in torrents has nothing to do with peering in networks.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Ok so you don't know why the ping time has dropped instead of increasing even though there are now LESS peering links to share the load now that Virgin media Turned the Broken Peering links OFF.

Its OK you can POST you have no IDEA why the ping is now Quicker/Lower than it was when there were lots of peering links provided buy VM. Now that they turned off 2 Peering providers links to fix download problems on there network...

Its OK I was just expecting Ping to get higher now that there is less room on there networks as they have shut network pipes down.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Have they shut down any peering links on the TBB path? Do you think displaced traffic is hotting the TBB path? Or have I misunderstood you?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Thats what I came here to find out, Kinda suprised, no body here seam to know anything about this.
Was expecting lots of Overloaded peering links and users complaining about increased load on there graph.
But it seams to have drawn a complete blank...
And my ping has gone down on the graph not up.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

What on earth are you on about.

You've stopped seeding. Load on your line has gone down. Therefore latency has gone down.

What has VM peering links got to do with your torrent seeding?!

OK... So? What has that got do do with you?

Why? Unless the network is at 100% load there should be no change in ping whatsoever.

On the other hand, VM prefer to use slower, cheaper links by default so by switching them off traffic is forced onto faster, more expensive paths.

Nonetheless VM has dozens if not hundreds of peering links. What on earth makes you think changes to 1% of their network would have any noticeable effect on your torrents?

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Nobody seems to know anything because nothing you say makes any sense.

Why would you expect that?!

I was expecting pigs to fly and explode and drop winning lottery tickets. Nobody seems to know anything about why that didn't happen either...

You've already said why yourself.

Ping goes down when you are not seeding torrents because you are not seeding torrents. :rolleyes:

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Does anybody know when uddingston will get bonded upstream.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/04/31.png

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Looking at your TBB/BQM I suspect that there is some colateral 10/GBe and core upgrades also required before you get full 120/12 rollout?

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-03-2013.png
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-04-2013.png

Only been like this for about 2 years

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Why are you still with VM?

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BT Infinity didn't come at a good time compared to my contract ending and a few people in my area had some problems with it. Definitely planning to change end of contract this time though or even sooner if possible, downloading and gaming especially are literally impossible at any time of the day.

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With service that poor you should be able to get out of your contract easily and try an alternative provider

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Any recommendations apart from Infinity or would that be one of the best options?

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My money is on Sky fibre, but Infinity do seem good, only reason I say Sky is that Ive got it and it's excellent.

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Another +1 on Sky fibre over here, although BT infinity does look equally as good. Plusnet is also meant to be fairly good if you are on a lower budget