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1andrew1 04-02-2015 22:17

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Originally Posted by josh82 (Post 35757316)
Hi all, newbie here

Having browsed this forum and in particular this topic I am lead to believe that beIN Sports have tabled a bid. The reason I know this is because my brother in law works over in Doha doing some production work for Al Jazeera and they've been told they are looking to expand into the UK.

Al Jazeera's looking to expand in the UK does not mean that they're suddenly going to splash out on expensive Premier League rights. Many other options means for UK expansion are available.

harry_hitch 05-02-2015 01:12

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35757290)
We need sky to win as many packages as possible. If they don't or bt gain an advantage it's potenially the death for televised football in this country.

Bt sport will start charging 20-25 quid a month if they get a lot of packages. Sky being greedy and wanting to maintain share price etc won't ever decrease their subscription costs. You'd be looking at 55+ quid per month just to watch football. A huge amount on top of monthly Sky, cable bills. The average person won't be able to afford it just like they can't afford to go to matches and very gradually football in this country may start dying a death

The greed of the premier league sees this as grab as much cash as possible opportunities. But after the end of it if they look down at their hands it may not be a handful of notes they're clutching but the blood of the ancient sport

I intentionally went to overhype and dramatise it with over the top languahe haha but I think the majority of it could frighteningly true

Lol, football will never die a death. The greedy money grabbing mercenaries who come to play football over here will just have to take a pay cut if the PL loses out on some money. TV rights will always be sold, it might just be for less than the PL want. The clubs will still be here, it will mean they just have less TV money, and as I say, players will have to take a pay cut or move on. It will never dies.

Football lasted a long time before the PL came along and will last a long time after. Football was much better for the fans (and perversely clubs were better off living within their means, rather than trying to spend big just for PL TV money) before the advent of the PL and Murdoch then throwing money at it.

Real football is not all about one league that serves its purpose and its purpose only (making money and catering to the whims the whims rich sugar daddy owners). It is about local clubs being run for not only profit, but for the benefit of the local community and treating loyal people like true fans, not milking them as if they are just customers.

How can anyone justify Rooney getting paid £300,000 a week, when Cambridge United's record signing cost £190,000 and the two teams we fielded against Man Utd cost us nothing as they were loanees, academy kids or free transfers. If Cambridge can survive like this, almost any lower league club can. The sooner the PL brand dies, and we go back to it all under the FA's purview the happier I will be.

There will always be big clubs with more money and the top talent for the little clubs to take players from on loan (long may it continue), but the want for PL money involved now is causing too much financial evil for too many clubs.

telegramsam 05-02-2015 13:32

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I think the packages will be much the same as they currently are,Sky having more games than BT. However if either Sky or BT try increasing the costs to viewers I think they`l find more and more people will cancel their subs. I know I would if there was a substantial increase,or if BT Sport was removed from the xl package on virgin.

denphone 05-02-2015 18:54

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Premier League big winner again as TV rivals vie for live football rights.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...tv-rights-bids
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Analysts at UBS this week predicted another 45% rise in the value of the rights, to £4.38bn over three years, with Sky paying £3.3bn to retain a majority for the three seasons from 2016/17.
Well it looks like Sky are the big winners again.

alwaysabear 05-02-2015 21:31

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35757403)
I think the packages will be much the same as they currently are,Sky having more games than BT. However if either Sky or BT try increasing the costs to viewers I think they`l find more and more people will cancel their subs. I know I would if there was a substantial increase,or if BT Sport was removed from the xl package on virgin.

It may come to choosing between Sky and BT! If BT is removed from the XL package, which I fear it will in 2016. I would have to choose Sky as they have the rights for American Football for the next 5 years.

Chad 05-02-2015 22:13

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35757466)
Well it looks like Sky are the big winners again.

Possibly however Jeremy Darroch might be getting his excuses in early, or this is a bluff from SKY ahead of the bidding.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...k-bank-5109653

"Sky is not prepared to break the bank for the rights to top flight football, say insiders. Sky boss Jeremy Darroch yesterday suggested it was less reliant on the Premier League than before. He said: “We like the Premier League. But the whole point of the business is about broadening the offer.” That means a wider range of sports, including snatching golf’s Open Championships from the BBC, plus more of its own entertainment programmes."

SKY didn't want to break the bank for Champions League rights last year, and look what happened.

Arthurgray50@blu 05-02-2015 22:32

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Well l hope that BT lose all of there packages. I hate that logo at the bottom of the screen.

It interrupts viewing

harry_hitch 05-02-2015 22:32

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35757500)
Possibly however Jeremy Darroch might be getting his excuses in early, or this is a bluff from SKY ahead of the bidding.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...k-bank-5109653

"Sky is not prepared to break the bank for the rights to top flight football, say insiders. Sky boss Jeremy Darroch yesterday suggested it was less reliant on the Premier League than before. He said: “We like the Premier League. But the whole point of the business is about broadening the offer.” That means a wider range of sports, including snatching golf’s Open Championships from the BBC, plus more of its own entertainment programmes."

SKY didn't want to break the bank for Champions League rights last year, and look what happened.

As a fan of many sports, I would be very happy if they saved a boat load of money by not wasting it on excessive PL rights. If they did not get the main PL rights and dropped their price by about £10, I would happily pay for SS.

I fear it is a massive pipe dream through.

Anypermitedroute 06-02-2015 09:47

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35757502)
As a fan of many sports, I would be very happy if they saved a boat load of money by not wasting it on excessive PL rights. If they did not get the main PL rights and dropped their price by about £10, I would happily pay for SS.

I fear it is a massive pipe dream through.

I agree, if they were to lose rights I don't foresee them reducing the price but can see others raising theirs making the consumer the real losers here

vincerooney 06-02-2015 09:56

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35757502)
As a fan of many sports, I would be very happy if they saved a boat load of money by not wasting it on excessive PL rights. If they did not get the main PL rights and dropped their price by about £10, I would happily pay for SS.

I fear it is a massive pipe dream through.

Sadly friend I do think it is. Sky will just run excessive adverts about other sports they have to try and justify the same price

"More darts than ever before!"

denphone 06-02-2015 09:58

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35757502)
As a fan of many sports, I would be very happy if they saved a boat load of money by not wasting it on excessive PL rights. If they did not get the main PL rights and dropped their price by about £10, I would happily pay for SS.

I fear it is a massive pipe dream through.

Sadly it is Harry.

1andrew1 06-02-2015 11:33

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35757500)
Possibly however Jeremy Darroch might be getting his excuses in early, or this is a bluff from SKY ahead of the bidding.

It's very hard to tell and we don't know how robust the "insiders" are. That's what makes it all the more interesting!

Dave42 06-02-2015 11:45

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35757502)
As a fan of many sports, I would be very happy if they saved a boat load of money by not wasting it on excessive PL rights. If they did not get the main PL rights and dropped their price by about £10, I would happily pay for SS.

I fear it is a massive pipe dream through.

we all know prices only going one way and it never be down

Anypermitedroute 06-02-2015 11:51

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35757567)
we all know prices only going one way and it never be down

Lol, wouldn't be great if Sky turn round and said

"because we show less PL football here is £15 off now for each month"

More likely is

"More range of sport and best matches from around Europe all for the same price"

muppetman11 06-02-2015 12:10

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35757498)
It may come to choosing between Sky and BT! If BT is removed from the XL package, which I fear it will in 2016. I would have to choose Sky as they have the rights for American Football for the next 5 years.

Ditto , I also think Sky has the better all round sporting rights.


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