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1andrew1 27-05-2021 00:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36080958)
Are we doing apologies for inaccuracies in this thread? Wow.... this could take some time.

Give me five minutes and I'll do a find and replace on my Hancocks. :D

jfman 27-05-2021 00:47

Re: Coronavirus
 
The state broadcaster earning it's (legislative) crust with a weak 'fact check'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57254305

The whole point of a fact check is surely to identify if the claim is correct or not, as opposed to offer defensive lines for the Government around dubious technicalities. And comparisons to opinion polling - which a know we all love on CF.

Generally most genuine fact checking services offer their own conclusion on the claims made - notably the state broadcaster does not.

Pierre 27-05-2021 05:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36080958)
Are we doing apologies for inaccuracies in this thread? Wow.... this could take some time.

Well previous behaviour on here suggests you will be pulled up for anything you wrongly suggested / predicted in excess of one year ago.

Hugh 27-05-2021 09:44

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36080969)
Well previous behaviour on here suggests you will be pulled up for anything you wrongly suggested / predicted in excess of one year ago.

More recently, as well… ;)

Or are you suggesting that blatant contradictions/falsehoods previously stated by posters should be ignored, in case the posters get upset by someone pointing out their contradictions/falsehoods? :confused:

jfman 27-05-2021 09:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36080969)
Well previous behaviour on here suggests you will be pulled up for anything you wrongly suggested / predicted in excess of one year ago.

Not quite sure of the posts you are referring to but my mantra has been fairly consistent - lockdowns were always inevitable, Government is broadly incompetent.

Others have clutched at various straws throughout the pandemic burying their heads in the sand from these quite obvious realities.

Any predictions of deaths, hospitalisations etc. are based on the prevailing circumstances at the time - not with the foresight of the many interventions the Government have made throughout the last 15 months.

Carth 27-05-2021 10:32

Re: Coronavirus
 
*gasp* you mean SAGE got it wrong too?

Hugh 27-05-2021 12:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
Can we keep this thread for Coronavirus news updates, please, and put any further comments about Dominic Cummings and the Committee hearings in a separate thread (see below)


https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33710049

jfman 27-05-2021 12:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.

tweetiepooh 27-05-2021 13:00

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36081007)
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.

But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.

Pierre 27-05-2021 13:09

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36081009)
But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.

don't destroy the narrative.

Carth 27-05-2021 13:11

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36081007)
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36081009)
But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.

It's the way he tells em :D

Hugh 27-05-2021 13:47

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36081007)
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.

Considering that the Pfizer vaccine is 88% effective against that strain, sounds about right...

Quote:

The BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine was 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease from the Indian variant two weeks after the second dose, while the Oxford/AstraZeneca was 60 percent effective.

These results suggest a slight drop in efficacy compared with the U.K. variant, where the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine is 93 percent effective after two doses and the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab is 66 percent effective.
https://www.politico.eu/article/what...ant-in-the-uk/

This is why I will still be social distancing/wearing a mask in shops, even though I have had two jabs - the vaccine reduces the risk, not eliminates it.

pip08456 27-05-2021 14:00

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36081009)
But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.

Not helpful at all without the context of when and how far apart the jabs were and when was the last given.

joglynne 27-05-2021 14:37

Re: Coronavirus
 
Bolton who were the first to be badly hit by this new variant do not have an in depth breakdown on the Vaccine status of those who have been admitted to hospital but they have published full figures of how the virus is effecting their area.

BOLTON JOINT STRATEGIC NEEDS ASSESSMENT

I guess we will just have to wait a tad longer to hear how the increased cases of Covid 19 versus vaccines/lack of is effecting the NHS

jfman 27-05-2021 15:25

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36081011)
don't destroy the narrative.

If there's one thing I'm certain of it's that the Covid deniers/downplayers of the forum aren't going to destroy anything other than any reasonable prospects of getting out of lockdown/restrictions soon.

Vaccine escape is already here. Further mutations are only going to cause vaccine efficacy to diminish further.


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