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Brexit deal done: Trade agreement finally struck between UK and EU


https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-de...nd-eu-12149904

happy there is a deal :)

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:hyper:

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Link

Sounds too good to be true.
You have to ask what were the EU doing by kicking up a fuss all this time.

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See what independent analysis makes of the deal. Both the UK and EU will claim victory. So long as both assume it is then all the better.

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+1

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So far the EU are claiming they have good access to British waters until 2026 and then 'strong incentives' for that to continue as well as assurances over the level playing field. The U.K are saying all red lines are met.

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From the EU press conference, you can see what the problem has been. The EU has it's own dictionary which is different from the rest of the World. The word "sovereignty" for them, has pretty much the opposite meaning, to the rest of the planet.:rolleyes:

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+2

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It's called French. ;)

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U.K won't be part of the Erasmus programme

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Exactly.

The pundits were saying that the wrong sort of deal would annoy both remainers and brexiters, the devil will be in the detail.

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BBC Reality Check notes that French and Dutch media are being briefed that the UK made major concessions. Considering the stake those countries have in keeping their fishermen in line (especially that Dutch super-trawler that owns something like 20% of England’s quota all by itself) this is unsurprising. I don’t doubt however that the usual suspects will be on here in short order, regurgitating French and Dutch government spin as if it’s the unvarnished truth.

While details are hard to come by at the moment, it seems there is a 5.5 year transition period over fishing quota clawback (the EU had wanted 10). It seems also that the deal acknowledges UK sovereignty in its own EEZ but is based on it being very unlikely that the UK would take sudden measures to exercise it against legally operating trawlers from EU states. For more than that we will just have to wait and see.

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It’s positively Orwellian, the way the EU tries to redefine such fundamental concepts so as to make objection to their programme difficult to articulate. Von Der Leyen has just made a speech in which she conveniently aligns whatever the EU chooses to do with a concept she calls sovereignty but which has little if anything to do with the dictionary definition of the term.

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It seems like both sides will be happy with that. U.K gets its sovereignty and eventual right to change the rules but the EU gets to access the waters/fish with some degree of assurance and security.

If the French are happy and the U.K is happy then sounds like the two sides did well.

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BoJo: no role for the ECJ.

Exactly as it should be. For the EU to expect its own court to adjudicate disputes between itself and the UK was ludicrous.

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Looks like there will be a new arbitration body?

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That bit is a real shame to be honest. Erasmus is or was a great thing.