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I don't think you are very alert to what is going on all around you. What I have been saying about the way linear channels will go in the UK is what has started happening now in the US. You keep demanding 'proof' of the future but you provide little in the way of proof that your desperate scenario will win the day.

That's because it won't. There's no point in my providing links for you. You just ignore them or try to find some strange excuse to discredit them.

What you are expressing is just your point of view which is not backed up in any way. I'm doing the same, but with back up information and in line with how the TV industry sees it.

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So the goal posts have moved again , it's still linear TV and available in a guide.

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No movement of goalposts. It's IPTV.

Nobody has said that linear viewing will not be possible - after all, that's how we watch sport. It's the conventionally broadcast channels that will be disappearing.

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Its alright MM he will open his eyes in a minute and realise that..;)

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Bollocks...

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What you mean is you don't like other peoples opinions because they threaten and discredit your own biased ones.

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This is a forum and anyone is entitled to express their opinions. What I object to is when posts are put up here declaring that you are wrong when a perfectly reasonable argument and links are put forward and objectors don't even bother backing up why they disagree. But it's all par for the course on this forum.

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I’m very alert to what is going on around me. Streaming is changing the way users consume television (and including pay television).

My “desperate scenario” as you put it is that people will continue to consume television in a variety of means: linear, time shifted and on demand from a variety of providers (including streaming providers). Hardly desperate or controversial?

You, on the other hand, are claiming the market will revolutionise yet can’t explain why basic economics (affordability of sports rights for example) doesn’t apply to streamers. You have to demonstrate how linear reaches zero and that Liberty, Comcast etc cannot adapt. I don’t have a high bar to demonstrate that people enjoy (and will continue to do so) the current broad range of offerings.

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l do not disagree.

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IPTV is just the delivery method the same as Satellite or cable.

Those broadcast channels still available in the US ? A country with far higher numbers cord cutting.

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You might think they are reasoned but obviously others don't.

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Because they are unreasonable :D

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A bit like "The Pot Calling the Kettle Black".....

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In your opinion OB..:D

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Yes, we are talking about the delivery method, aren't we? How many times have I got to clarify that the channels in decline will be the traditionally broadcast linear channels to make this clear and avoid all the pedantry that goes on here about the terminology used? You know exactly what I'm referring to.

Nobody has said that cable and satellite channels are not available in the US. However, they are in decline, as the links have confirmed.

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I don't disagree with your first two paragraphs. Except the 'desperate' bit. :D

I cannot understand why you are, I think, suggesting that streamers will not be able to afford to stream live sport. They already do. Presumably you are referring to my comment that sport might well be cheaper, and I stand by that. Amazon is a good example. A reduced price for sport could draw more people into their Prime retail service.

I said many moons ago that it is possible that the linear channels could be saved if they were able to adapt in some way, but I have seen no signs of that and frankly at the moment I cannot envisage what such an adaption could possibly be. On demand viewing is so much more convenient, and without advertisements, time wasting is eliminated. AVOD will still be available of course, but most people who can afford it will take the ad-free versions of their most used streaming services.

You have acknowledged that streaming is becoming more popular. There will inevitably come a point when this trend tips so far as to make the linears no longer worthwhile.

Just sit back and watch this play out. It will take a few years (Den please note)!

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I'd suggest looking at some of the services I've listed above , I believe you'll find they carry lots of linear broadcast channels but then that doesn't fit with your beliefs does it.;)

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'The traditionally broadcast linear channels' are by far the most reliable means of getting programmes into homes, whether by aerial, satellite or cable. What is the logic of sending the same set times programmes over the internet which continues to be prone to all sorts of go slows and outages, especially as the current systems have had years of development to improve performance and reliability?

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This is an important consideration.

Plenty of “outdated” technology survives because of simplicity/ease of access. I’m sure we’d all agree DAB and FM radio are superior to MW radio for instance.