Cable Forum - UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

Rumour has it that this will be a 1000-2000 page document that needs to be reviewed by the end of the year. Good luck with asking the opposition to vote for something that you simply couldn’t review in that time. An abstention is the only option here as if there’s bad stuff it will be ‘well, you voted for it’ but it also can’t fail.

papa smurf

23-12-2020 19:20

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36063488)

Probably arguing who gets to keep the commemorative pens.

The eu will want 80% of them and an agreement that we wont use our pens to sign deals with anyone else.

1andrew1

23-12-2020 20:05

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36062455)

They already have been. Boris is going to be most depised PM by Brexiteers since urrmmm ....., the last one....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ls-brexiteers/

Will be interesting to see if this is the case or not.

Hugh	23-12-2020 20:59

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Whatever it is, Farage (and a reasonable percentage of the ERG) won’t like it...

TheDaddy

23-12-2020 21:35

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36063502)

Whatever it is, Farage (and a reasonable percentage of the ERG) won’t like it...

I'm not sure I'm going to like it, we conceded our trump card early on and what ever is in this document will simply be the prelude to years of further negotiations

Mick	23-12-2020 22:04

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Update: Joe Barnes Brussels correspondent, Daily Express: PM can say he's reclaimed control of British waters. After the transition, the UK Gov will be free to decide access. It appears EU has given way on its 'punishment clause' demand that would see Britain slapped with tariffs if EU boats lose access in future.

Sephiroth

23-12-2020 22:16

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To me, the important factors would now be:

1. Tariff/quota free goods;

2. A short grace period for adjustments to be made on both sides.

It would be interesting to learn what will happen on visiting the EU and matters such as IDPs/Green Cards.

I would like to see an OBR report on the additional costs UK industry will have to bear for the increased administrative burden.

Finally, I won't be whinging if they get a bit more fish.

Mick	23-12-2020 22:21

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BREAKING: Boris Johnson’s Cabinet has been summoned for a conference call with PM tonight.

Dave42

23-12-2020 22:24

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happy it looking certain we are getting a deal

Mick	23-12-2020 22:31

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And a good deal. If what I’m seeing rumoured coming out of Brussels tonight.

Damien

23-12-2020 22:34

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36063505)

I think this is the sensible approach. We retain the right to decide if the EU/French can fish in our waters but we allow them not only to do so but to have a majority of the fish because we don't really care about them so much as the principle. Macron is happy because French fisherman gets to continue as normal.

It's provocative of the EU to demand or expect those rights as the point of the referendum for many was the principle of sovernity. For the EU to demand rights to U.K waters won't fly. However, the fish in the waters of the British isles aren't that important to us so it's easy for us to allow access to our waters for something in return.

Pierre

23-12-2020 22:46

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36063510)

And a good deal. If what I’m seeing rumoured coming out of Brussels tonight.

It will be a good deal for both, can’t be anything else.

Damien

23-12-2020 23:02

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Certainly better than a no-deal as well. Question is, given it's unlikely any agreement can be filled implemented by the 1st, does the transitional period extend into the new year for a few days/weeks until the agreement is fully in place?

Dave42

23-12-2020 23:10

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36063517)

Certainly better than a no-deal as well. Question is, given it's unlikely any agreement can be filled implemented by the 1st, does the transitional period extend into the new year for a few days/weeks until the agreement is fully in place?

surely they got to do that

1andrew1

23-12-2020 23:14

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36063518)

surely they got to do that

You would think so, especially if all 27 sovereign EU nations have to approve it too.

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