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papa smurf 10-06-2025 18:25
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197860)
Trouble is, you don’t have any suggestions for improving Wales’ lot.
He could leave :)

1andrew1 10-06-2025 18:50
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
In contrast to the financially thriving but electorally poor Conservative Party, Reform is struggling to get the donations in. I understand deputy chair Richard Tice has been its biggest funder of late.
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Senior figures in Reform UK have grown frustrated with party treasurer Nick Candy, saying big donations have failed to materialise — including his own “seven figure” pledge — even as the party has soared in opinion polls.

Candy, whose job it is to fundraise for Nigel Farage’s populist party, has repeatedly claimed publicly that he will bring in tens of millions of pounds in donations for Reform, and that wealthy businesspeople are on the cusp of giving large donations.

However, two senior Reform figures have told the Financial Times that concerns have grown in the party that the money flowing in does not match Candy’s rhetoric, and that his public boasts may in fact be deterring would-be donors.

“There is significant disquiet around the party generally that he has not only failed to deliver on the amount he pledged to give the party personally, but also he’s talked about these tens of millions of pounds of pledges from other donors and they don’t materialise,” the person said. “He has been all talk and no trousers.”
https://www.ft.com/content/dcbcf532-...1-9a3e4f72d7c3

Paul 10-06-2025 19:00
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197857)
Reform cleverly endorsing swift bricks which Labour blocked in fear of Reform using it against them.
Swift Bricks :confused:

1andrew1 10-06-2025 19:09
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36197864)
Swift Bricks :confused:
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a ‘swift brick’ is a brick that sits flush to the wall, with a hole in it, providing nesting habitat for eight species of small urban birds.
https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/blog/...ome-their-home

Previous holes in houses that some species of bird live in are are being blocked up through insulation and repairs. Birds who depend on such cavities are in sharp decline, including swifts and house sparrows.

Russ 10-06-2025 20:50
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197860)
Trouble is, you don’t have any suggestions for improving Wales’ lot.
I’m not a politician so I wouldn’t, and neither do you. I’ve always said I don’t vote for who I think is the best party, instead who I think would be the least worst.

And that’s why I’ll regrow my hair before I vote Reform.

Russ 10-06-2025 20:53
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Anyway, as if anyone needed evidence how Farage will BS about anything and hitch his wagon to any cause….

Sephiroth 10-06-2025 20:55
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36197870)
I’m not a politician so I wouldn’t, and neither do you. I’ve always said I don’t vote for who I think is the best party, instead who I think would be the least worst.

And that’s why I’ll regrow my hair before I vote Reform.
Then where's the value in anything you have to say? Any citizen should be able to understand what could make the local economy grow. It's the politicians who have no idea.

Then there's your ridiculous notion that you'll vote for the least worst party without knowing whether or not the can improve Wales' lot.

At least Reform are putting something forward and thus might even be "least worst".

Russ 10-06-2025 20:58
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So if you don’t have a solution then you’re to keep your opinions quiet? Wow, spectacular stuff.

Tell you what. Come and actually live here in Wales for a bit. Experience life under a Welsh government. Once done then maybe you’ll have a more informed opinion about what’s “best for Wales”.

Sephiroth 10-06-2025 21:05
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Your usual avoidance of offering a solution. You don't need to live in Wales to know the dire situation it is in. Reform's intention to improve the economy by making prime steel using local fuel is a no brainer. It'll just need execution, which is the difficult bit for politicians to achieve.

But you'll vote for the "least worst".

jem 10-06-2025 21:11
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36197874)
So if you don’t have a solution then you’re to keep your opinions quiet? Wow, spectacular stuff.

Tell you what. Come and actually live here in Wales for a bit. Experience life under a Welsh government. Once done then maybe you’ll have a more informed opinion about what’s “best for Wales”.
Russ, I’m not Welsh, I live in London, I’ve visited Wales twice, beautiful country and really nice people. So I can’t really comment on much, not being in possession of ‘facts’.

But please, as I genuinely want to know, what are the issues you have? What do you think that your (devolved) assembly has done wrong, what do you think is (a) solution?

Russ 10-06-2025 21:15
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197876)
But you'll vote for the "least worst".
Finally you get it. Got it in one.

1andrew1 10-06-2025 23:14
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36197871)
Anyway, as if anyone needed evidence how Farage will BS about anything and hitch his wagon to any cause….
At least with Starmer and Badenoch you know roughly what you're getting as there's beliefs of sorts behind it. With Farage it's just whichever way the wind is blowing that day.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197876)
Your usual avoidance of offering a solution. You don't need to live in Wales to know the dire situation it is in. Reform's intention to improve the economy by making prime steel using local fuel is a no brainer. It'll just need execution, which is the difficult bit for politicians to achieve.

But you'll vote for the "least worst".
I'm afraid Thatcher was right, Seph. We need to focus on growing industries and service where we enjoy a competitive advantage. Replicating 1970s Labour by propping up old industries to win votes doesn't get us closer to Swiss standards of wealth but closer to Albanian ones.

Of course, there may be a strategic necessity to maintain some industries but that's another argument.

Improving the transport in Wales would be a better use of funds.

Sephiroth 10-06-2025 23:40
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Always good to improve transport. But what will that achueve unless wealth producing businesses are there to benefit from said transpirt. Prime steel is needed for our defence industries, car industries, ship building, etc.

Maggy 11-06-2025 08:17
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I hate having to vote these days because I have yet to find a political party that I actually fully trust to support and vote for.

papa smurf 11-06-2025 08:23
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36197901)
I hate having to vote these days because I have yet to find a political party that I actually fully trust to support and vote for.
That can't be a new thing can it, politicians have never been trustworthy


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