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Taf 30-10-2024 13:34

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Carers Allowance to rise to equal 16 hours of the National Minimum Wage.

16 x £12.21 = £195.36 ? £195.36 x 52 = £10,158.72 pa. ???

It is presently £4,258.80 pa.

Or did I hear her incorrectly?

Escapee 30-10-2024 13:53

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
It's going to cost the worker.

My (very) quick calculations are that a small business employing someone on minimum wage for a 37.5 hour week will have to find another £998.65 per year to fund the wage increase and employers NI increase.

Imagine how much the NI increase is going to cost for larger employers. Just the reduction of the £9100 threshold to £5000 itself will cost the business £492 for every employee.

Ultimately it's going to cost employees, it will result in lower wage rises and lower down the wage chain it will cost jobs.

Now I'm part time at least the NI increase is only going to cost me around £1200 per year Ouch.

Inactive Digital 30-10-2024 15:08

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36185080)
I was wrong about this! They won't extend the freeze beyond the already announced one until 2028.

That's a surprise.

This was the so called budget "rabbit out of the hat".
We're all supposed to be grateful that they aren't going to do something that wasn't planned to happen anyway.

nomadking 30-10-2024 16:47

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36185083)
Carers Allowance to rise to equal 16 hours of the National Minimum Wage.

16 x £12.21 = £195.36 ? £195.36 x 52 = £10,158.72 pa. ???

It is presently £4,258.80 pa.

Or did I hear her incorrectly?

Do you mean this?
Link
Quote:

Eligibility widened for the allowance paid to full-time carers, by increasing the maximum earnings threshold from £151 to £195 a week
So Carers allowance won't rise, but the amount they can earn does rise.

Paul 30-10-2024 16:51

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
I had a quick read of the main points on the BBC site, there dont seem to be any personal tax rises.
Indirectly, I expect prices of goods & services will rise due to increased business costs (mostly NI changes).
Since prices rise anyway, it may be hard to tell how much more they have gone up than they would have otherwise.

Overall, it doesnt seem as bad (for me anyway) as I had expected.

Pierre 30-10-2024 16:52

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 36185084)
It's going to cost the worker.

My (very) quick calculations are that a small business employing someone on minimum wage for a 37.5 hour week will have to find another £998.65 per year to fund the wage increase and employers NI increase.

Imagine how much the NI increase is going to cost for larger employers. Just the reduction of the £9100 threshold to £5000 itself will cost the business £492 for every employee.

Ultimately it's going to cost employees, it will result in lower wage rises and lower down the wage chain it will cost jobs.

Now I'm part time at least the NI increase is only going to cost me around £1200 per year Ouch.

Any thought of onshoring call centers, out the window

Itshim 30-10-2024 17:43

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36185093)
I had a quick read of the main points on the BBC site, there dont seem to be any personal tax rises.
Indirectly, I expect prices of goods & services will rise due to increased business costs (mostly NI changes).
Since prices rise anyway, it may be hard to tell how much more they have gone up than they would have otherwise.

Overall, it doesnt seem as bad (for me anyway) as I had expected.

Don't worry , Richard, will tell businesses we're to find another money tree :D remember we the customer aren't the source of the monies, that are given to everyone. :rolleyes:

Damien 30-10-2024 18:10

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
The minimum wage going up might feed to prices but I think that would have happened anyway.

Hugh 30-10-2024 18:17

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36185096)
Don't worry , Richard, will tell businesses we're to find another money tree :D remember we the customer aren't the source of the monies, that are given to everyone. :rolleyes:

Except in your case… (according to you ;) )

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36179991)
I pay next to NOTHING, get yourself a good accountant, worth every penny. Really enjoyed visiting hmrc with one of them , don't know their own regulations . :shocked:


Escapee 30-10-2024 21:10

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36185094)
Any thought of onshoring call centers, out the window

Quite, it's not attractive to new businesses and I fail to see how this fits with their manifesto promise of being business friendly and their claims of growing the economy. It looks like their real plan is to have us in a recession.

One local small business I visit has three employees and the owner has been telling me he's been struggling to stay afloat. I believe what he says, when he says what he earns himself some weeks which is less than the minimum wage. He says he often earns less than his employees, but I guess the lefties just consider him as a business owner to be a capitalist pig.

Itshim 30-10-2024 21:41

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36185098)
Except in your case… (according to you ;) )

Haven't worked out how to avoid vat , council tax. :D but never fear they are working on it. :D

Dave42 31-10-2024 10:27

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Kwasi Kwarteng has admitted Reeves is cleaning up the tory mess in the i paper it behind a paywall so not linking it

thenry 31-10-2024 21:14

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36185096)
Don't worry , Richard, will tell businesses we're to find another money tree :D remember we the customer aren't the source of the monies, that are given to everyone. :rolleyes:

I nearly died laughing :rofl:

https://youtu.be/-pzRqc022tA?t=142

ianch99 01-11-2024 09:04

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36185098)
Except in your case… (according to you ;) )

Isn't this the essential problem here: we have so many people who feel that they should not contribute, in a proportionate way, to help repair the damage to the country and its services that the last 15 years inflicted.

Mr K 01-11-2024 11:07

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36185199)
Isn't this the essential problem here: we have so many people who feel that they should not contribute, in a proportionate way, to help repair the damage to the country and its services that the last 15 years inflicted.

Don't mention the EU


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