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Mr K 29-09-2022 22:07

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36135448)
It's looking like the usual benefit & pension upratings will not not take place next April to pay for the tax cut to those earning oner £150,000.

Fair enough I guess. Heating swimming pools, paying for Pandora's horse, and Quentin's gap year in the Seychelles, costs.

Think before you vote next time folks.

RichardCoulter 29-09-2022 22:27

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
A crucial seat for Labour & the Tories is the Colne Valley. A member of the Slaithwaite local facebook group wrote to their sitting Tory MP Jason McCartney

As many people were thinking that they could use as much energy as they wanted after the amount of the price cap, she requested that he raised the problem of confusion with what the energy cap actually means be addressed.

He emailed back, totally ignored her request and went on a rant about the media & Keir Starmer!

It's caused outrage in the group, even amongst some that are Tory voters. The general feeling is that he no longer cares as he knows he'll be ousted at the next election.

Apparently, he's a former BBC journalist and has had training in social media!

Itshim 29-09-2022 22:29

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36135448)
It's looking like the usual benefit & pension upratings will not take place next April to pay for the tax cut for those earning over £155,000.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...92770&page=179

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36135426)
My new British Gas bill shows the discount as a deduction on the Unit Rate.

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So there!

Edf are paying money to account that the DD comes from:shocked: never thought I would think about voting Labour but this bunch of idiots have made me think again

Hugh 29-09-2022 22:37

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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This is from HM Treasury, extolling the virtues of the latest mini-budget

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1664487043

The £11,250 Stamp Duty saving is based on the "average" terraced house price of around £600,000 (in London).

Sounds really good, except for one small question - how would someone on a salary of £30,000 afford a £600,000 house?

A 25-year mortgage of £600k at 4% interest would cost £3167 per month (£38,000 per year) from a take home pay of £2,000…

1andrew1 29-09-2022 23:12

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36135423)
If that’s so difficult to understand, no wonder you don’t get the Truss strategy.

You would need to be a sandwich short of a lunch box to get the :dunce: Truss :dunce: strategy.

Mr K 29-09-2022 23:25

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Oops...
https://mobile.twitter.com/YouGov/st...24255718166532
Quote:

Our latest VI poll has Labour with a *33pt* lead over the Tories, the highest of any recorded poll since the late 1990s. (Fieldwork 28-29 Sep)

Con: 21% (-7 from 23-25 Sep)
Lab: 54% (+9)
Lib Dem: 7% (-2)
Green: 6% (-1)
Reform UK: 4% (+1)
SNP: 5% (+1)

1andrew1 29-09-2022 23:43

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
She's probably more popular on the continent now than she is in the UK!
Quote:

Liz Truss to attend inaugural meeting of new European political group

Prime minister’s move seen as a step in repairing relations with the EU after Brexit

UK prime minister Liz Truss will next week join the inaugural meeting of a new European grouping proposed by French president Emmanuel Macron to bolster regional co-operation in the face of Russian aggression.

The move by Truss marks a significant attempt by her to repair strained UK relations with the EU, and will also be seen as an olive branch to Macron.

Truss will join a meeting of the group, dubbed the European Political Community, in Prague on October 6, in spite of the financial chaos engulfing her fledgling government.

She was persuaded to go to the event — the first time the UK has engaged formally in a summit which will include all the 27 EU leaders since Brexit took full effect — after being convinced the new group had a valuable role to play.
https://www.ft.com/content/98fb0e93-...4-310ff1f28042

ianch99 29-09-2022 23:55

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36135395)
Why drag up his 2017 remarks? And with such emphasis.

Because he is a hypocrite; he has in the past sold the UK out when pretending he is all about Brexit Britain and now he is wheeled out to gaslight us, trying to convince us the sky is green, really?

He is yesterday's politician, desperately trying to be relevant in today's world and failing miserably. His time is over, he just needs to accept this and move back into obscurity.

1andrew1 30-09-2022 00:04

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36135446)
33% lead for Labour aye Truss is doing great NOT even OB will come to reality sometime

I imagine it will be "Wait until the S̶u̶e̶ ̶G̶r̶a̶y̶ sorry OBR report." :D

RichardCoulter 30-09-2022 01:12

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Even the Daily Mail have turned on Truss with a sarcastic headline about her delusions that she's Thatcher 2.0. It alludes to 'The lady's not for turning' and then goes into detail about the problems that she's causing.

Pierre 30-09-2022 07:51

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
The pound back up to 1.12 against the dollar, thank god all the MSM commentators are talking about it or I’d never have known.

OLD BOY 30-09-2022 08:31

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135429)
But bills are in arrears - how can you have had a discount for next month?

For example, my statement date is 25 Sep 2022 and the statement period is 24 Aug 22 - 24 Sep 22, and there is no Credit on that bill, so unclear how you could have a credit for something that you haven’t been billed for yet, and that doesn’t start until 1st October?

Supplier is Shell Energy.

The credit is to my direct debit payment, the first of which will be taken in October 2022. Is that clearer for you?

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36135446)
33% lead for Labour aye Truss is doing great NOT even OB will come to reality sometime

This fuss is all because the numbers relating to how the debt will be paid have not been produced yet, due to the necessity to reassure people about their energy bills without delay. The media and the opposition did a very good job at panicking people, didn't they?

The figures will be produced by November, the OBR can rake over the numbers and the public will start to realise that all this fuss was unnecessary and they will live to see another summer.

Then the retribution will start as to why all that stress was created unnecessarily. Labour should make the most of these days of popularity. In the end, the opinion poll ratings will be seen as a mid-term bubble.

1andrew1 30-09-2022 08:32

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36135466)
The pound back up to 1.12 against the dollar, thank god all the MSM commentators are talking about it or I’d never have known.

You should read The Guardian - it's making news there.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...86e6bfb2dfd97d

papa smurf 30-09-2022 08:35

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36135466)
The pound back up to 1.12 against the dollar, thank god all the MSM commentators are talking about it or I’d never have known.

As far as i can see most of the worlds currencies are down against the dollar, what's the fascination with the quid and a piffling tax reduction.

1andrew1 30-09-2022 08:46

Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36135467)
This fuss is all because the numbers relating to how the debt will be paid have not been produced yet, due to the necessity to reassure people about their energy bills without delay. The media and the opposition did a very good job at panicking people, didn't they?

The figures will be produced by November, the OBR can rake over the numbers and the public will start to realise that all this fuss was unnecessary and they will live to see another summer.

Then the retribution will start as to why all that stress was created unnecessarily. Labour should make the most of these days of popularity. In the end, the opinion poll ratings will be seen as a mid-term bubble.

Fake news alert #1
The OBR did offer to produce the numbers. See here. This was even flagged before the fateful mini budget! See here.

Fake news alert #2
The government has only agreed for the figures to be produced on 23rd November not in October. Many wiser souls in the party have requested they are produced earlier and hopefully Truss will perform a u-turn on this soon. See here

If a loyal defender of Truss like you has to resort to dreaming up facts, it doesn't inspire me with confidence on her performance!


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