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denphone 27-03-2019 19:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35988889)
what is adsmart and is the partnership with sky and virgin a good sign or just being greedy?
l think it will be good for both of them Vince.

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Sky AdSmart is the revolutionary approach to TV advertising which levels the playing field, so businesses of all shapes and sizes can benefit from the advertising impact of TV. With Sky AdSmart different ads can be shown to different households watching the same programme. This means brands and businesses can now advertise on national channels, but to relevant audiences.

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Advertisers are able to cherry-pick their audiences using thousands of combinations from age, location or life style. All this means the power of TV can now be used to greater effect by existing advertisers, whilst becoming accessible for the first time to niche brands, small & medium-sized businesses (SMEs) and location-specific advertisers.

vincerooney 27-03-2019 19:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
So does that mean ITV which make money on adverts will lose some of it as virgin media and sky take a piece of the pie or am i misreading this?

Inactive Digital 27-03-2019 20:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35988894)
So does that mean ITV which make money on adverts will lose some of it as virgin media and sky take a piece of the pie or am i misreading this?
It's only on channels that Sky acts as the sales house for.

ScottishSteve 31-03-2019 14:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I noticed on DigtalBitrate a UHD stream called InternalF

Usually Internal followed by a letter is the start of the name of the channel

Maybe a chance it could be Stingray Digital channel ‘Festival 4k’ as Virgin already carry their Karaoke Channel on the red button music service

Or indeed it may be Fashion TV UHD

Only time will tell.

Media Boy UK 31-03-2019 15:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 35989289)
I noticed on DigtalBitrate a UHD stream called InternalF

Usually Internal followed by a letter is the start of the name of the channel

Maybe a chance it could be Stingray Digital channel ‘Festival 4k’ as Virgin already carry their Karaoke Channel on the red button music service

Or indeed it may be Fashion TV UHD

Only time will tell.
InternalF has been on DigitalBitrate for months as far as we know of.

---------- Post added at 15:52 ---------- Previous post was at 15:44 ----------

But We have found that Total Channels did go up by one on Thursday Night.

And we have just seen that an new Horror Channel +1 has been added to C034
DVBC TSid 11:

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C034

jfman 31-03-2019 16:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
The thing about the letters isn’t accurate. As an aside Internal F is the Virgin UHD channel. It links to the same audio and video PID.

cheekyangus 31-03-2019 17:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35989305)
The thing about the letters isn’t accurate. As an aside Internal F is the Virgin UHD channel. It links to the same audio and video PID.
Given there is a separate and correctly labelled VM UHD showing on DigitalBitRate, could this just be a test to see how a UHD stream handles on the multiplex InternalF is on?

jfman 31-03-2019 18:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35989325)
Given there is a separate and correctly labelled VM UHD showing on DigitalBitRate, could this just be a test to see how a UHD stream handles on the multiplex InternalF is on?
It’s on the same frequency, so it’s just another version of the same stream.

cheekyangus 31-03-2019 18:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35989331)
It’s on the same frequency, so it’s just another version of the same stream.
So it's pointing to the same place rather than being a copy transmission on the same frequency? If it were the latter it could be load stress test of sorts. I can't see the point if it's simply a pointer.

jfman 31-03-2019 20:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35989336)
So it's pointing to the same place rather than being a copy transmission on the same frequency? If it were the latter it could be load stress test of sorts. I can't see the point if it's simply a pointer.
It’s been there since before the channel launched in the EPG. So probably just a lack of housekeeping in the NAT.

cheekyangus 01-04-2019 10:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
There's a whole bunch of "New" channels on C062 and C063 (see DigitalBitRate). There's 9 on each.
I think they are all part of a group of transitions to MPEG4 rather than actual new channels, one of the ones I checked was Crime+Inv SD, and the labelled version is still MPEG2 and on a different frequency.

Additional: I checked a few others, there's a Film4, CNN, History 1 & 2 , Nat Geo and Cartoon Network.

Additional additional: Most are 544x576 resolution.

Additional x3: I just noticed thst most of the ones I mentioned are on C055 in MPEG2. VM are clearly updating the whole of the C055 frequency/multiplex to MPEG4 but doing so by moving them all on to a different frequency/multiplex.

And the other channels I noticed seem to be from C067.

SonicMaster 01-04-2019 15:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Channel Guide for April now available:

Desktop: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...1April2019.pdf
Mobile: https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...1April2019.pdf

Total Country TV on channel 348 is still missing.

cheekyangus 02-04-2019 14:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35989425)
There's a whole bunch of "New" channels on C062 and C063 (see DigitalBitRate). There's 9 on each.
I think they are all part of a group of transitions to MPEG4 rather than actual new channels, one of the ones I checked was Crime+Inv SD, and the labelled version is still MPEG2 and on a different frequency.

Additional: I checked a few others, there's a Film4, CNN, History 1 & 2 , Nat Geo and Cartoon Network.

Additional additional: Most are 544x576 resolution.

Additional x3: I just noticed thst most of the ones I mentioned are on C055 in MPEG2. VM are clearly updating the whole of the C055 frequency/multiplex to MPEG4 but doing so by moving them all on to a different frequency/multiplex.

And the other channels I noticed seem to be from C067.
An update on the quoted above.

7 of the "New" Sans Nom on C062 have now got names (Nat Geo, NG+1, Nat Geo WILD, History, H+1, History 2 and Crime+Inv) , the channels being those I noticed from the other frequency/multiplex C067. So that's those switched to MPEG4 now...I double checked via the Diagnostics menu they were now H264 video. There are 3 "New" Sans Nom left on C062, and those 9 on C063 are still there and not yet switched over either, so those C055 channels have yet to be switched.

There's also a new "New" Sans Nom on C031. This is Cartoon Network +1 in MPEG4.

So there's going to be a lot of channels that need to be re-favourited after all these switches. It's an annoying side effect of the MPEG4 switching.

cheekyangus 03-04-2019 09:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
5 channels switched over to MPEG4 overnight.

MUTV, Sky Sports F1 and Sky Witness have replaced the remaining 3 "New Sans Nom" on C062.

On C063, Channel 4 Audio Description and Boomerang have appeared in MPEG4 replacing 2 of the "New Sans Nom".

Additional: I thought Sky One had changed already. For whatever reason it disappeared from my Favourites like the other MPEG4 switched channels. Maybe it moved mutliplex, or I was mistaken about it being switched already.

Yup, Sky One is showing in 5 places. Discounting the HD channel, that's 2 on C055 and 2 on C063, one being MPEG2 and one MPEG4 on each. So it's moving position on the network (not the EPG, just so you don't misunderstand me) at the very least.

fox35 03-04-2019 10:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
So just in layman's terms, what does all this moving about channels from mpeg-2 to mpeg-4 actually mean to the normie average Joe viewer?


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