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Damien 05-05-2010 22:03
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35014803)
It's not either/or Damien, I'm suprised you hadn't realised that.
They're not saying local people must run schools and hospitals, they're saying you can if you want to.
You say you want schools and hospitals free of political interference, yet are misunderstanding the policy from the one party which is actually offering you that.
The last line was a reference that every government wants to change the education system in some way, which cannot be helpful.

I don't understand their schools policy though. Who will pay for the school? Are the people running the school checked to ensure they are qualified too? Can you set up a school in an area which already has enough schools?

Hugh 05-05-2010 22:10
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Latest news on the success story that is the BNP
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The British National Party has been plunged into further internal turmoil after the head of its online operation resigned and took the website down with him.
Simon Bennett, 41, directed BNP traffic to his personal website, which contained a lengthy diatribe against Nick Griffin, the leader of the far-right party, and other senior figures.
A day before the general election, Mr Bennett painted a picture of an amateur operation and an organisation which he claimed wasted membership fees and donations.
He accused Mr Griffin and James Dowson, the BNP’s election fundraiser, of being “pathetic, desperate and incompetent” and said it had been a “nightmare” to work with them.


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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35014817)
The last line was a reference that every government wants to change the education system in some way, which cannot be helpful.

I don't understand their schools policy though. Who will pay for the school? Are the people running the school checked to ensure they are qualified too? Can you set up a school in an area which already has enough schools?
Damien, you may find this Times story from today answers some of your questions
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The first thing to understand is that Cameron’s policy is not quite new. The Education Act 2006 states that if a new school is needed, the local council should hold an open competition. And parents can band together, set themselves up as an educational trust and apply.

A couple — nothing like the thousands the Tories will encourage — have done so.

The first “parent-promoted” school, a secondary, opened in South London a few months ago. The first parent-promoted primary will open in Bolnore, West Sussex, this autumn. Both were unopposed. But Coopers Edge primary in Gloucester, now a patch of dug earth, will be the first school that parents have won control of in a fierce competition. They won against an established school that wanted to expand its empire — exactly the kind of experts you’d expect to be in charge.

Tezcatlipoca 05-05-2010 22:12
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35014823)
Latest news on the success story that is the BNP
That's just priceless! :D

Ignitionnet 05-05-2010 22:42
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Originally Posted by mikegreen (Post 35013162)
You are quick to attempt to shoot down other people on this forum with your snobbish ... posts...
I was checking and found that I live right on the border between the 19th and 5th wealthiest constituencies in the UK and have an income to more than match.

I'll shut up trying to defend myself from accusations of snobbery - you may well have a point Mr Green, you may well have a point :(

Damien 05-05-2010 22:44
Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35014823)
Latest news on the success story that is the BNP
They really are useless aren't they! :D


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Damien, you may find this Times story from today answers some of your questions
Cheers. Guess I was wrong on that front then! :dunce:

Ignitionnet 05-05-2010 22:45
Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35014823)
Latest news on the success story that is the BNP
Zero sympathy. While they have the occasional good point they have totally the wrong way of wanting to deal with it, totally OTT, and for my money are counter-productive.

BTW would anyone be interested in seeing this?

The BNP made me think of another divisive group of extremists trying to gain power, the IFE.

Xaccers 05-05-2010 22:59
Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35014823)
Latest news on the success story that is the BNP
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His campaign woes increased this afternoon when he was pelted with tomatoes
Don't suppose they left them in the tin? :D

frogstamper 05-05-2010 23:05
Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35014698)
The apathy at election time in this country is astounding especially when you see such low turnouts, we should do as many other countries do and adopt a policy of fining people who do not vote.

I ensure that my vote is cast by registering for a postal vote and my vote was sent back a week ago.
Agreed, voting in a democracy should be a requirement as well a right.

LondonRoad 05-05-2010 23:23
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I'm kind of hoping for a hung parliament. I've heard the arguments for and against for years but I'm a long time supporter of electoral reform and believe a hung parliament could lead to the nation examining the carp system we have.

I've lived through massive tory majorities and massive labour majorities and I think a bit of consensus politics would be better for the vast majority of us. It might actually wake many of us up from the lethargic attitude we have to the general election.

I'll be voting Liberal in a safe Labour seat so it's not going to count for much. It's no wonder so many people don't bother voting at all. That really is a great shame. :(

punky 05-05-2010 23:41
Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35014823)
Latest news on the success story that is the BNP
Not only that, there was a bit of... err... friction between Bob Bailey and some of the local constituents today.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...nd/8663681.stm

Say what you like about the BNP but at least they aren't afraid to get stuck in! :shocked:

MrGiles2 05-05-2010 23:52
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The way the opinion polls are going, its looking like a Hung Parliament. BUT, if the conservatives achieve a small majority, they will govern with support from the Ulster Unionists and perhaps the Lib-Dems. And the funny thing is, they may only need to achieve 38% of the vote, (not the number of seats) to win the election.

Isnt terribly democratic, is it?

budwieser 05-05-2010 23:53
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If someone spat in my face i`d kick the crap out of them, its a disgusting thing to do.:mad:

nomadking 06-05-2010 00:00
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Originally Posted by MrGiles2 (Post 35014924)
The way the opinion polls are going, its looking like a Hung Parliament. BUT, if the conservatives achieve a small majority, they will govern with support from the Ulster Unionists and perhaps the Lib-Dems. And the funny thing is, they may only need to achieve 38% of the vote, (not the number of seats) to win the election.

Isnt terribly democratic, is it?
So the Lib-Dems should rule with even less?The Lib-Dems might not be as prepared to ally with Labour this time around, but in future I'm sure that they would only join up with Labour giving a permanent Labour government.

How did the last Liberal-Labour 'coalition' work out?

Niles Crane 06-05-2010 00:14
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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35014925)
If someone spat in my face i`d kick the crap out of them, its a disgusting thing to do.:mad:
That's nice, but as you're not a prospective member of parliament that's irrelevant.

Responding to being spat at by getting into a gang fight with constituents in the middle of a street (on camera while you're out campaigning no less) isn't acceptable to any normal, sensible party or voter. But as the BNP and their support are full of these type of people, i'm sure this behaviour isn't a big deal. In fact, i expect plenty are enjoying watching that video at this very moment and it'll be used as a positive - they've made a habit out of fighting with Asians after all.

Tuftus 06-05-2010 00:28
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Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35014931)
getting into a gang fight with constituents in the middle of a street (on camera while you're out campaigning no less) isn't acceptable to any normal, sensible party or voter.
I wonder what John Prescott would say about it, OK his battle was not with a gang but hey... ;)


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