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theone2k10 20-11-2017 15:37

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35925633)
I forgot about UKTV and that will known Sky Basic Channel not on Virgin Media - that the only channels I can think of.

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Are they and STV AD broadcasting any thing?

I'm just pulling your leg mate.

jj20x 20-11-2017 15:49

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35925633)
Are they and STV AD broadcasting any thing?

Test V1, being in the NIT tables of various VM networks used for testing is, presumably, testing something. Until the streams associated with the tests are added across the national network it's impossible to say precisely what is being tested.

The other test services and STV AD are SDT only, which suggests that the data has been added to prepare for new services but that testing hasn't yet started. The bulk of the "Test" services have been SDT only for over a month, suggesting that there is no urgency to the tests. That said, actual tests could start at any moment, it's just a case of wait and see what develops.

RichardCoulter 20-11-2017 15:59

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What pack is motorsport.tv in (formerly Motors TV)?

It's going FTA and joining Freesat, so should really be moved to M/Player (or as VM seem to be doing these days M+/Mix).

Media Boy UK 20-11-2017 16:01

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35925646)
What pack is motorsport.tv in (formerly Motors TV)?

It's going FTA and joining Freesat, so should really be moved to M/Player (or as VM seem to be doing these days M+/Mix).

TV M+

https://www.tvchannellists.com/List_...gin_Media_(UK)

jj20x 20-11-2017 16:23

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35925564)
Maybe this explains the shenanigans that took place earlier in the year??

It looks like more shenanigans to be honest. I've seen more details of this and it appears that Together TV will be "launching" on Jan 16th on VM channel 269, which is the existing slot for Community Channel. It also describes Together TV as "the latest incarnation of Community Channel". So, basically, just another rebrand dressed up as a channel launch.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35925646)
It's going FTA and joining Freesat, so should really be moved to M/Player (or as VM seem to be doing these days M+/Mix).

The pack it is in on VM is more to do with the carriage terms agreed between VM and the broadcaster than FTA availability on other platforms.

Just to clarify, and further to MB's post, it is included in the Mix, M+, Fun & Full House packs on VM.

Media Boy UK 20-11-2017 19:08

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VH1 is set to be rebrand as VH1 Christmas from November 24th.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35924897)
Best of... 2017.

It back - the lines are now open on the following:

1) Best poster with information on the coming soon thread:

A) Media Boy Sources
B) theone2k10
C) JJ20X

2) Best new channel of the year on Virgin Media UK:

A) That's Norfolk (Norwich areas only)
B) Rishtey Cineplex
C) MTV Beats
D) Star Bharat
E) Sky Sports Football
F) Sky Sports Arena
G) KMTV (Kent areas only)
H) Brit Asia TV
I) Blaze
J) Islam Channel English
K) Islam Channel Urdu
L) Talking Pictures TV
M) STV2 (Some Scottish areas only)
N) Made in Teesside (Middlesbrough areas only)
O) Heart 80s (Radio Channel)
P) Quest Red


3) Radio Channel of the year:

Name your Radio Channel of 2017 (As long as they broadcast on Virgin Media UK).

PM US right now with your vote:

DO NOT Vote via this thread it WILL NOT Count.

All lines closes on November 27th at 5pm.

©copyright 2017 Media Boy 2006 - 2017. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

As of time of posting we only got one vote.

All lines are open until next Monday at 5pm.

To vote PM us right now.

Mad Max 20-11-2017 20:02

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As of time of posting we only got one vote.
Are you surprised, MB? There's sod all worth voting for imo.....

RichardCoulter 21-11-2017 16:57

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35925649)
It looks like more shenanigans to be honest. I've seen more details of this and it appears that Together TV will be "launching" on Jan 16th on VM channel 269, which is the existing slot for Community Channel. It also describes Together TV as "the latest incarnation of Community Channel". So, basically, just another rebrand dressed up as a channel launch.

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The pack it is in on VM is more to do with the carriage terms agreed between VM and the broadcaster than FTA availability on other platforms.

Just to clarify, and further to MB's post, it is included in the Mix, M+, Fun & Full House packs on VM.

Thanks, so this change probably won't affect VM customers.

In the past I have known VM to move channels into the lower packs that have gone FTA eg Really; I suppose that they will have had to amend the carriage terms in order to do this. Oddly enough, Home wasn't moved down when that joined Freeview in 2016. VM made a statement at the time to say that they had no plans to move it (not sure what they've done with it more recently now that it's gone FTA on satellite too).

theone2k10 21-11-2017 17:54

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Not sure if i'm being trolled or not but it could be legit, VM are looking into becoming one of the first providers to offer VR tv, VR is already taking off in the UK and has already began to move into movies and tv in the states and is expected to do the same in uk next year.
Liberty Global are quite keen to bring VR tv programming to their customers globally.
Make of that what you wiil i care not as i'm just passing on what i got told.

telegramsam 21-11-2017 18:28

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35925806)
Not sure if i'm being trolled or not but it could be legit, VM are looking into becoming one of the first providers to offer VR tv, VR is already taking off in the UK and has already began to move into movies and tv in the states and is expected to do the same in uk next year.
Liberty Global are quite keen to bring VR tv programming to their customers globally.
Make of that what you wiil i care not as i'm just passing on what i got told.

Sorry but what is VR TV?

theone2k10 21-11-2017 18:37

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35925809)
Sorry but what is VR TV?

Virtual reality, it is already huge in gaming and is now moving to tv and movies.

OLD BOY 21-11-2017 18:41

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35925812)
Virtual reality, it is already huge in gaming and is now moving to tv and movies.

If true, it's nice to see VM leading the way!

theone2k10 21-11-2017 19:41

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35925813)
If true, it's nice to see VM leading the way!

Maybe this is why VM are delaying 4k they know VR is the next big thing are are investing into that more instead.
Hope it's true i got to see a bit of VR cinema at EGX and it was incredible.

johnathome 22-11-2017 01:22

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35925812)
Virtual reality, it is already huge in gaming and is now moving to tv and movies.

VR porn?

You're in the room! :D

OLD BOY 22-11-2017 07:36

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Good to see Sky beginning to beef up it's content. Unfortunately, the best of this is probably destined for Sky Atlantic. Sky One, it seems to me, has lost its way and Sky 2 is pretty superflous except as a Sky 1 + channel.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...ginal-content/

theone2k10 22-11-2017 12:37

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35925860)
VR porn?

You're in the room! :D

Already happening, so i been told :p:

jfman 22-11-2017 17:11

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STV AD is broadcasting and in the clear in my region.

RichardCoulter 22-11-2017 17:15

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35925950)
STV AD is broadcasting and in the clear in my region.

Is this on or off the EPG? Are you located outside their area?

They aren't allowed to encrypt PSB channels.

Thanks.

jfman 22-11-2017 17:15

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Off EPG and yes, I’m in Scotland.

The other AD variants are encrypted.

RichardCoulter 22-11-2017 17:27

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Interesting...

jj20x 22-11-2017 18:27

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35925953)
Is this on or off the EPG? Are you located outside their area?

They aren't allowed to encrypt PSB channels.

Thanks.

The main SD regional version of ITV in each area is not encrypted, additional versions for adjacent regions and AD versions are encrypted. The last scan data showed that the SDT had additional data added for STV AD. The data indicated that STV AD will be encrypted but that the pack codes hadn't been added at that point. That is the state usually seen when tests start, actual encryption follows shortly afterwards. At the time of the scan, STV AD hadn't been added to the NIT of VM's Scottish regions.

NIT data indicated that there has been frequency changes to networks on the Derby and Portsmouth headends, following on from those in other regions mentioned previously.

OLD BOY 22-11-2017 19:18

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I feel so much better, knowing that.

jj20x 22-11-2017 19:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35925990)
I feel so much better, knowing that.

Well, it's not about Amazon bidding for Premiership rights, so I would have thought it would have left you distraught...

OLD BOY 22-11-2017 19:24

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35925991)
Well, it's not about Amazon bidding for Premiership rights, so I would have thought it would have left you distraught...

Don’t get me wrong, jj, you come up with some interesting stuff. However, I always thought that NIT data related to Diane Abbott’s mathematical calculations.

jj20x 22-11-2017 19:32

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35925993)
Don’t get me wrong, jj, you come up with some interesting stuff. However, I always thought that NIT data related to Diane Abbott’s mathematical calculations.

Once again, NIT=Network Information Table and SDT=Service Description Table. I know that it's jargon but after it has already been repeated several times I would have thought that most of the followers of this thread would get the gist by now.

RichardCoulter 22-11-2017 20:06

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I'm sure that the majority of people do.

Interesting that VM are sticking to the letter of the law and encrypting what ITV regions that they can get away with scrambling, even though they have little to no value and aren't ordinarily available by the average cable subscriber, particularly when they will probably have to pay Nagra for it.

Do viewers in Scotland currently have to make do with ITV London AD like the rest of us?

RobboEdin 22-11-2017 20:23

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Yes, Scotland gets ITV London AD on 853.

jj20x 22-11-2017 20:28

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35926000)
I'm sure that the majority of people do.

Interesting that VM are sticking to the letter of the law and encrypting what ITV regions that they can get away with scrambling, even though they have little to no value and aren't ordinarily available by the average cable subscriber, particularly when they will probably have to pay Nagra for it.

Encryption of any additional regions / services is probably agreed with ITV. I would have thought that VM would just purchase a licence to use Nagra encryption rather than pay for each individual service encrypted.

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Do viewers in Scotland currently have to make do with ITV London AD like the rest of us?
At the moment, yes, but apparently not for much longer. I'm quite surprised that this situation has been allowed to continue for so long. Given the eagerness of both ITV and STV to geo-block their respective catchup services.

RichardCoulter 23-11-2017 03:32

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And, as the only independent franchise left, it's more likely to have different programmes than the quasi national ITV that everyone else now has.

Presumably STV AD will appear on 853 in Scotland and ITV AD will become encrypted for them. In the unlikely event that ITV is pulled from VM, at least eight impaired people in Scotland won't now lose their audio description service.

Actually, thinking about it, they could simply put STV AD on 103 in Scotland and let people decide whether to switch it on or not.

OLD BOY 23-11-2017 09:39

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35925995)
Once again, NIT=Network Information Table and SDT=Service Description Table. I know that it's jargon but after it has already been repeated several times I would have thought that most of the followers of this thread would get the gist by now.

Yes, they do.

There seems to be a humour deficiency on this thread...:erm:

heero_yuy 23-11-2017 10:07

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35925860)
VR porn?

You're in the room! :D

Porn and football are usually in the vanguard of new technology as the users have deep pockets.

jj20x 23-11-2017 12:36

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35926009)
And, as the only independent franchise left, it's more likely to have different programmes than the quasi national ITV that everyone else now has.

Presumably STV AD will appear on 853 in Scotland and ITV AD will become encrypted for them. In the unlikely event that ITV is pulled from VM, at least eight impaired people in Scotland won't now lose their audio description service.

Actually, thinking about it, they could simply put STV AD on 103 in Scotland and let people decide whether to switch it on or not.

STV is technically made up of STV Central and STV North (formerly Grampian) both of which have regional news opt-outs. STV has 4 different versions centred around Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee. So not as simple as just putting a single feed on 103.

I'm told that last night's scan showed that STV AD has now replaced ITV AD in the NIT of VM's "Code Download Test (Portsmouth)" network. Indicating that the feed is now being tested centrally. The "hidden" flag in the EPG section of the SDT had been removed.

OB may prefer to interpret this as STV AD being tested by Dianne Abbott but... there you go. ;)

Media Boy UK 23-11-2017 14:51

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35926009)
And, as the only independent franchise left, it's more likely to have different programmes than the quasi national ITV that everyone else now has.

Presumably STV AD will appear on 853 in Scotland and ITV AD will become encrypted for them. In the unlikely event that ITV is pulled from VM, at least eight impaired people in Scotland won't now lose their audio description service.

Actually, thinking about it, they could simply put STV AD on 103 in Scotland and let people decide whether to switch it on or not.

STV are not that independent.

STV only broadcast up to 7 different programmes.

Weekdays:
STV News (Local news) in 4 areas (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee)
Scotland Tonight [STV's idea of Newsnight] with Local news in 4 areas (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee)
Aftermidnight (Best of STV2)*

Weekends:
STV News (Scottish news)*

*STV Wide (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee.)

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STV +1 is STV Edinburgh.

We get it here at Media Boy HQ. (STV Glasgow area)

RichardCoulter 23-11-2017 16:39

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35926029)
STV is technically made up of STV Central and STV North (formerly Grampian) both of which have regional news opt-outs. STV has 4 different versions centred around Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee. So not as simple as just putting a single feed on 103.

I'm told that last night's scan showed that STV AD has now replaced ITV AD in the NIT of VM's "Code Download Test (Portsmouth)" network. Indicating that the feed is now being tested centrally. The "hidden" flag in the EPG section of the SDT had been removed.

OB may prefer to interpret this as STV AD being tested by Dianne Abbott but... there you go. ;)

Thanks, I never realised that was the case.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35926054)
STV are not that independent.

STV only broadcast up to 7 different programmes.

Weekdays:
STV News (Local news) in 4 areas (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee)
Scotland Tonight [STV's idea of Newsnight] with Local news in 4 areas (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee)
Aftermidnight (Best of STV2)*

Weekends:
STV News (Scottish news)*

*STV Wide (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee.)

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STV +1 is STV Edinburgh.

We get it here at Media Boy HQ. (STV Glasgow area)

Oh right, I thought that they'd have other local programmes too like the old style ITV regions used to. I remember a lot of people complaining when they stopped airing national ITV programmes in favour of content that STV thought more relevant to the local area (though IIRC this was as much to do with ITV saying that STV owed them money for their programming).

If the one STV AD being created is to show much the same as everywhere else does across the UK (and the local news is split into more than one feed, but the new AD will only be able to carry one of them), it seems a little pointless.

Re: The +1's that some people think are no longer relevant. Sky is to move them away from where they are on their EPG (mainly next to the parent channel) to elsewhere.

Maybe VM will follow suit with this compromise?

Anyone with a Broadcast Now subscription may be able to tell us more:

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/sky/s...124422.article

RichardCoulter 23-11-2017 19:42

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More info about the above:

After a consultation with the broadcasters, the changes to the +1 channels will be put back from 1/3/18 to 1/5/18.

Also, instead of being shunted into a dedicated section from 700 onwards the +1 channels will now appear from 201 onwards. They will also mirror the line up between 101 and 200 so that ITV+1 will be at 203, C4+1 at 204, C5+1 at 205 etc

Ahead of the changes there will be a 17 week trading window during which broadcasters will be able to reallocate or sell their current +1 slot.

I know some on here think that the +1 channels are now a waste of time with the advent of the increase to 6 tuners and the VOD catch up service, but I still find them useful at times.

I think that this idea is a fair compromise as those who don't like them can miss all of them out in one go whilst channel surfing, whilst those who want them can easily find them.

What would others think if VM were to follow suit?

Stephen 24-11-2017 10:06

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35926054)
STV are not that independent.

STV only broadcast up to 7 different programmes.

Weekdays:
STV News (Local news) in 4 areas (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee)
Scotland Tonight [STV's idea of Newsnight] with Local news in 4 areas (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee)
Aftermidnight (Best of STV2)*

Weekends:
STV News (Scottish news)*

*STV Wide (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee.)

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STV +1 is STV Edinburgh.

We get it here at Media Boy HQ. (STV Glasgow area)

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35926068)

Oh right, I thought that they'd have other local programmes too like the old style ITV regions used to. I remember a lot of people complaining when they stopped airing national ITV programmes in favour of content that STV thought more relevant to the local area (though IIRC this was as much to do with ITV saying that STV owed them money for their programming).



Thats not true, STV also show a lot of Scottish programmes and other programmes at different days/times to what is on ITV. I remember when STV stopped airing The Bill and putting on localised shows. Just recently there was a series about local/scottish history and one of the programmes last week was about the 1971 gas explosion in clarkston.

STV2 is the local channel now.

theone2k10 24-11-2017 13:00

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A update to my post about VM launching virtual reality, it looks like SKY have beaten them too it. http://www.sky.com/shop/tv/sky-apps/#section-6

jj20x 24-11-2017 13:17

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35926068)
Thanks, I never realised that was the case.

Yes, although I suppose I should point out that there are only 3 variations on VM as the network doesn't extend as far as Aberdeen.

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If the one STV AD being created is to show much the same as everywhere else does across the UK (and the local news is split into more than one feed, but the new AD will only be able to carry one of them), it seems a little pointless.
I think it's more to do with getting the correct advertising for the STV franchise.

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Re: The +1's that some people think are no longer relevant. Sky is to move them away from where they are on their EPG (mainly next to the parent channel) to elsewhere.
Although they can be relevant for regional television, mainly for DTT. The reason that STV +1 takes the Edinburgh version is to give viewers in the east of the central belt an opportunity to see the most appropriate version of the news. Some viewers in the east receiving the Glasgow service from the Black Hill transmitter rather than the Edinburgh service from Craigkelly.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35926085)
Also, instead of being shunted into a dedicated section from 700 onwards the +1 channels will now appear from 201 onwards. They will also mirror the line up between 101 and 200 so that ITV+1 will be at 203, C4+1 at 204, C5+1 at 205 etc

I like the fact that the Documentary and Entertainment genres are to be merged (on Sky). Largely because most channels don't stay within their genre.

+1s being in their own section with a +100 model sounds good but I think that it will create a lot of gaps.

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What would others think if VM were to follow suit?
Merging Entertainment, Documentary and Lifestyle sounds good. Do we really expect to look in the Documentary section to find One Foot In The Grave on Yesterday, or in the Lifestyle section to find Dalziel and Pascoe on Home? Well done UKTV :rolleyes: - although other broadcasters are just as bad.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35926147)
STV2 is the local channel now.

In name only. STV still operates 4 regional opt-outs on the ITV Network. STV 2 is a single network feed across all of the, supposedly local, Scottish local tv franchises.

ozsat 24-11-2017 13:36

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That app launched over a year ago
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35926166)
A update to my post about VM launching virtual reality, it looks like SKY have beaten them too it. http://www.sky.com/shop/tv/sky-apps/#section-6


dilli-theclaw 24-11-2017 16:21

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35926016)
Porn and football are usually in the vanguard of new technology as the users have deep pockets.

....with holes in them :)

RichardCoulter 24-11-2017 16:48

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35926147)
Thats not true, STV also show a lot of Scottish programmes and other programmes at different days/times to what is on ITV. I remember when STV stopped airing The Bill and putting on localised shows. Just recently there was a series about local/scottish history and one of the programmes last week was about the 1971 gas explosion in clarkston.

STV2 is the local channel now.

If there are programmes on STV that aren't available on the rest of the ITV network, I wonder if VM are to make it available to everyone via the the back door by using this as their AD channel??

That way, as with the BBC Nations and S4C, those who used to live in Scotland or are simply interested in the culture can watch the local news & other programming.

Also, if this is put in place now, ITV would have less of a case if they complained about this feed being put onto 103 should VM go down this route regarding the retransmission fee dispute.

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35926029)
I'm told that last night's scan showed that STV AD has now replaced ITV AD in the NIT of VM's "Code Download Test (Portsmouth)" network. Indicating that the feed is now being tested centrally. The "hidden" flag in the EPG section of the SDT had beenOB may prefer to interpret this as STV AD being tested by Dianne Abbott but... there you go. ;)

Does this change to central testing suggest that STV AD may be being made available to the whole VM network (this may help to support or disprove my speculation above).

Personally, if they can get away with it and it's free, I think that VM might as well offer STV to everyone as an alternative to ITV for the purposes of timeshifting or extra programming.

I sometimes watch BBC1 Wales for the local programming and find BBC1 NI useful at night during recording clashes as they often show programmes later than the English BBC1.

Raider999 24-11-2017 19:56

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The only time I have ever watched regional BBC channels are when they show a football or rugby match that isn't on the standard BBC 1 or 2

RichardCoulter 24-11-2017 21:41

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Yes, they can be useful for sport too.

jj20x 24-11-2017 22:14

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35926199)
Does this change to central testing suggest that STV AD may be being made available to the whole VM network (this may help to support or disprove my speculation above).

No, it's the normal way of doing things. Code Download Test (Portsmouth) was also used in the early stages of STV2, KMTV Made for Kent etc. NGRHEE Bromley, TTA Bromley DMC (Bromley RHE) & Manchester TRIALS networks carry RTE One, RTE Two & TG4 but it's not an indication that those services will be made available to the whole network. It's just the way things are organised.

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Personally, if they can get away with it and it's free, I think that VM might as well offer STV to everyone as an alternative to ITV for the purposes of timeshifting or extra programming.
If STV allowed it, it would probably be the start of a big dispute between STV & ITV PLC.

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I sometimes watch BBC1 Wales for the local programming and find BBC1 NI useful at night during recording clashes as they often show programmes later than the English BBC1.
It's not a problem for the BBC, watching other regions doesn't have a potential impact on their income.

RichardCoulter 27-11-2017 19:43

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Cheers jj.

Looks like the linear version of Playboy TV may be closing at 6am on 1/12/17. If a long standing adult channel can't survive it must put a question mark over the future of the other more minor players.

Dave42 27-11-2017 20:47

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35926166)
A update to my post about VM launching virtual reality, it looks like SKY have beaten them too it. http://www.sky.com/shop/tv/sky-apps/#section-6

probably just a fad like 3d IMO

Derekb108 27-11-2017 21:13

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35926640)
probably just a fad like 3d IMO

Remember Sky gnome?

theone2k10 27-11-2017 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35926640)
probably just a fad like 3d IMO

I agree but on the otherhand Virtual reality is really growing especially in the gaming industry, the VR tv cinema i saw at EGX was very impressive.
Only time will tell.

nicknewark 28-11-2017 09:13

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I fell for the 3D fad, bought a 3D TV, used it once for 3D. Glasses on, Glasses off, generally feeling sick. Fortunately it was a Good TV in its own right, so not a waste.

Virtual reality will be the same, I have a PS4 and have never bothered with the VR Headset, I love gaming, but VR doesn't interest me. (Maybe it's Just me).

denphone 28-11-2017 09:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknewark (Post 35926673)
I fell for the 3D fad, bought a 3D TV, used it once for 3D. Glasses on, Glasses off, generally feeling sick. Fortunately it was a Good TV in its own right, so not a waste.

Virtual reality will be the same, I have a PS4 and have never bothered with the VR Headset, I love gaming, but VR doesn't interest me. (Maybe it's Just me).

No its certainly not just you as 3D was never going to go big mainstream as one there was not enough produced content plus those 3D glasses put a big spoke into the wheels as well and the same will happen to any new formats unless they cross the divide into the popular mainstream.

OLD BOY 28-11-2017 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35926675)
No its certainly not just you as 3D was never going to go big mainstream as one there was not enough produced content plus those 3D glasses put a big spoke into the wheels as well and the same will happen to any new formats unless they cross the divide into the popular mainstream.

It was the glasses that did it. I agree that VR is doomed for the same reason.

Holographic images I think will succeed where 3D failed, provided that you don't need glasses!

theone2k10 28-11-2017 13:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35926675)
No its certainly not just you as 3D was never going to go big mainstream as one there was not enough produced content plus those 3D glasses put a big spoke into the wheels as well and the same will happen to any new formats unless they cross the divide into the popular mainstream.

Edited as a bit harsh: I agree with you on 3D completely but imo and this is just my opinion based on what i saw at EGX i think VR is here to stay.

jj20x 28-11-2017 22:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35926676)
It was the glasses that did it. I agree that VR is doomed for the same reason.

Holographic images I think will succeed where 3D failed, provided that you don't need glasses!

I'm not sure how that would work. VR works because the equipment isolates the user from the actual reality. Holograms within the living room might not be too convincing, although a holographic tiger jumping over an actual coffee table would be interesting...

Media Boy UK 28-11-2017 23:08

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BBC Wales to launch BBC Radio Cymru 2 on January 29th.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...o-cymru-2-2018

Mad Max 28-11-2017 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35926770)
BBC Wales to launch BBC Radio Cymru 2 on January 29th.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...o-cymru-2-2018

MB you're killing us with these fantastic new channels coming to VM........:rolleyes:

Media Boy UK 29-11-2017 00:33

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Winners of round one of this year ""Best of" will be reveal from 4pm on Monday.

An extra round will start soon after.

---------- Post added 29-11-2017 at 00:33 ---------- Previous post was 28-11-2017 at 23:20 ----------

Cable.co.uk: World Darts Championship to be shown on dedicated Sky Sports Darts channel

This years Sky Sports Darts HD Channel will be on from Dec. 14th to Jan. 3rd on Virgin UK Channel 508.

SD Channel is on Virgin UK Channel 518.

Also on Virgin Ireland SD Channel 406 / Virgin Ireland HD Channel 436.

vincerooney 29-11-2017 09:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35926772)
Winners of round one of this year ""Best of" will be reveal from 4pm on Monday.

An extra round will start soon after.

---------- Post added 29-11-2017 at 00:33 ---------- Previous post was 28-11-2017 at 23:20 ----------

Cable.co.uk: World Darts Championship to be shown on dedicated Sky Sports Darts channel

This years Sky Sports Darts HD Channel will be on from Dec. 14th to Jan. 3rd on Virgin UK Channel 508.

SD Channel is on Virgin UK Channel 518.

Also on Virgin Ireland SD Channel 406 / Virgin Ireland HD Channel 436.

Sky darts ? What channel will this take over? I think the entire sky sports naming thing is utter pish. The amount of filler on each channel is incredible. F1 channel is now repeating old documentaries for the next 5 months. Sky cricket doesn’t really have much cricket since sky lost the rights... why even have a channel on cricket then it didn’t even show county cricket? There are 6 england tests a year sky have exclusive rights to. Ridiculous

“Sky arena” “sky showcase” argh whoever named these atrocious channels earns more than me too

nodrogd 29-11-2017 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35926795)
Sky darts ? What channel will this take over? I think the entire sky sports naming thing is utter pish. The amount of filler on each channel is incredible. F1 channel is now repeating old documentaries for the next 5 months. Sky cricket doesn’t really have much cricket since sky lost the rights... why even have a channel on cricket then it didn’t even show county cricket? There are 6 england tests a year sky have exclusive rights to. Ridiculous

“Sky arena” “sky showcase” argh whoever named these atrocious channels earns more than me too

508/518 Is Sky Sports Arena

Raider999 29-11-2017 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35926798)
508/518 Is Sky Sports Arena

Indeed - not a new channel at all - just another example of sky re-branding a channel for a limited time (done it before with Ashes coverage for example)

Mad Max 29-11-2017 16:24

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Quote:

I think the entire sky sports naming thing is utter pish.

Brilliant, Vince......:D

Ddonald2016 29-11-2017 20:31

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Just renewed with virgin think this is good offer

Full House TV (XL)

Virgin TV V6 Box, powered by TiVo

VIVID 200 Optical Fibre

Line Rental

Caller Display

Talk More Anytime

Additional TV Box

Fully Itemised Billing

Talk 08 5

Sky Sports HD Pack

Premium Add-ons

B T Sky Sports and Cinema Collection Promotional Offer(s)

£31 VIP bundle 9 month discount (until 27th november 2018) Your monthly service charge

Then £130.00 from Tuesday 28th november 2018

RobboEdin 29-11-2017 20:40

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How does a 9 month discount end in 12 months?

Ddonald2016 29-11-2017 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35926879)
How does a 9 month discount end in 12 months?

They apologise there was a error and will run till 27th november

OLD BOY 29-11-2017 23:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35926882)
They apologise there was a error and will run till 27th november

That's still not 9 months!

Ddonald2016 30-11-2017 01:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35926891)
That's still not 9 months!

It runs from the 28th november this year till 27th november 2018

OLD BOY 30-11-2017 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35926893)
It runs from the 28th november this year till 27th november 2018

Er, isn't that 12 months? :confused:

Ddonald2016 30-11-2017 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35926926)
Er, isn't that 12 months? :confused:

Correct that’s why I think it’s a good deal

OLD BOY 30-11-2017 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35926947)
Correct that’s why I think it’s a good deal

But you said it was a 9 month discount!

Oh, well, never mind. :walk:

Ultimate.Conj 30-11-2017 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35926878)
Just renewed with virgin think this is good offer

Full House TV (XL)

Virgin TV V6 Box, powered by TiVo

VIVID 200 Optical Fibre

Line Rental

Caller Display

Talk More Anytime

Additional TV Box

Fully Itemised Billing

Talk 08 5

Sky Sports HD Pack

Premium Add-ons

B T Sky Sports and Cinema Collection Promotional Offer(s)

£31 VIP bundle 9 month discount (until 27th november 2018) Your monthly service charge

Then £130.00 from Tuesday 28th november 2018

That's a really good deal mate, well done...the VIP pack is good...Virgin upgraded me to Vivid 350 and managed to reduce my bill somehow...I wasn't complaining :D

OLD BOY 30-11-2017 16:19

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Further details emerge about the launch of BBC Scotland.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/11/b...m-invites.html

RichardCoulter 30-11-2017 18:20

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Speculation that Star Gold may be closing as it's been showing the same five films on a loop since last Friday.

Ddonald2016 30-11-2017 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35926965)
That's a really good deal mate, well done...the VIP pack is good...Virgin upgraded me to Vivid 350 and managed to reduce my bill somehow...I wasn't complaining :D

I’m in Glasgow we can’t get above the 200 mb service, the 08 deal 250 mins to any 08 numbers is a lifeline

RichardCoulter 30-11-2017 20:47

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Wonder if it will just be viewers in Scotland that will lose BBC4 SD to accommodate BBC Scotland or everyone??

jj20x 30-11-2017 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35927023)
Wonder if it will just be viewers in Scotland that will lose BBC4 SD to accommodate BBC Scotland or everyone??

They are just planning to use the BBC Four SD EPG position in Scotland and to shunt BBC Four SD further down the list. There shouldn't be any change for the other nations. It would probably mean issuing a unique SID number for BBC Four HD in Scotland as VM allocates EPG slots by service.

RichardCoulter 01-12-2017 01:27

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The way that I read it was that it would be using BBC4 SD capacity, but there again i've only skimmed through this:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/abouttheb...submission.pdf

Wonder if those outside Scotland will get this on VM, seeing as BBC1 Scotland, S4C etc are available further up the EPG.

jj20x 01-12-2017 01:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35927049)
The way that I read it was that it would be using BBC4 SD capacity, but there again i've only skimmed through this:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/abouttheb...submission.pdf

Wonder if those outside Scotland will get this on VM, seeing as BBC1 Scotland, S4C etc are available further up the EPG.

I've only skimmed through it myself. The reasoning behind my comment was the detail in para 87:

Quote:

BBC Scotland will have as prominent a slot as possible on the Electronic Programme Guide (EPG) on all these platforms in Scotland, assuming that it is possible for the new channel to displace BBC Four to a lower slot on the EPG on all platforms. Table 3 shows further details of the highest EPG slots that the new channel could occupy on different platforms, based on the latest available information.
Displacing BBC Four to a lower slot suggests that they won't be removing it.

BBC Scotland could be made available nationally on VM, I suppose that will be decided by VM and the BBC in due course.

RichardCoulter 01-12-2017 01:55

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Just been reading that it will take the capacity of BBC2 Scotland.

Also, the 'Made In' local TV channels are to stop simulcasting truTV.........and start simulcasting CBS Reality :rolleyes:

jj20x 01-12-2017 03:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35927054)
Just been reading that it will take the capacity of BBC2 Scotland.

Not strictly true. It will replace the Scottish content on BBC Two Scotland, which will then then be replaced by the English version of BBC Two. That will free up the duplicated BBC Two Scotland channel on satellite but not on other platforms.

Quote:

Also, the 'Made In' local TV channels are to stop simulcasting truTV.........and start simulcasting CBS Reality :rolleyes:
It's already happened, Judge Judy is now presiding over these local tv channels. ;)

OLD BOY 01-12-2017 10:13

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The hours CBS Drama is on air on Freeview will be reduced.

This makes sense because the programming between 9am and 1pm is also shown later in the day, but one has to ask - is this the beginning of the end for CBS Drama?

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/11/c...iew-hours.html

Ultimate.Conj 01-12-2017 12:47

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TV Anywhere App changing to Virgin TV Go....3G/4G capabilities too

RichardCoulter 01-12-2017 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35927080)
The hours CBS Drama is on air on Freeview will be reduced.

This makes sense because the programming between 9am and 1pm is also shown later in the day, but one has to ask - is this the beginning of the end for CBS Drama?

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/11/c...iew-hours.html

I imagine that it's lost a lot of viewers since UKTV made their drama channel available FTA.
IIRC CBS Drama shows mainly American imports and UK Drama mainly programming from the BBC.

theone2k10 01-12-2017 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35927103)
TV Anywhere App changing to Virgin TV Go....3G/4G capabilities too

Wouldn't it be sweet justice if SKY went to ofcom and said VM were copying their SKYgo be sweet revenge for all the times VM have gone crying to ofcom.
Ofcourse in reality it wouldn't happen but it was a nice dream lol.

jj20x 01-12-2017 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35927080)
The hours CBS Drama is on air on Freeview will be reduced.

This makes sense because the programming between 9am and 1pm is also shown later in the day, but one has to ask - is this the beginning of the end for CBS Drama?

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/11/c...iew-hours.html

It's not a good sign when a broadcaster puts one of its main channels behind its timeshifts in the pecking order. Of course, the timing of the frequent moves on Freeview may suggest that the broadcaster is chasing bargain basement rates and using short term contracts whenever cheap carriage deals are available.

Who would have thought that Talking Pictures would have the buying power to push one of the main broadcasters aside? :p:

RichardCoulter 01-12-2017 21:14

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I thought that too.

Good to know that Talking Pictures will still be available after the reduction in Freeview capacity as, without Freeview exposure, it may not have been viable to keep it on VM & satellite only.

Ddonald2016 01-12-2017 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35927108)
Wouldn't it be sweet justice if SKY went to ofcom and said VM were copying their SKYgo be sweet revenge for all the times VM have gone crying to ofcom.
Ofcourse in reality it wouldn't happen but it was a nice dream lol.

Well i waa lucky to get to trial this, it defo aint copying and would be bad for business to do so. You will all be impressed all that is missing is downloads

Mad Max 01-12-2017 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35927195)
Well i waa lucky to get to trial this, it defo aint copying and would be bad for business to do so. You will all be impressed all that is missing is downloads

Were you drinking before you posted the above?

theone2k10 01-12-2017 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35927195)
Well i waa lucky to get to trial this, it defo aint copying and would be bad for business to do so. You will all be impressed all that is missing is downloads

You do realise my comment was tongue in cheek?
In seriousness would be great if they got downloads on it for you guys, we haven't heard anything about downloads as of yet though.

RobboEdin 02-12-2017 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35927213)
You do realise my comment was tongue in cheek?
In seriousness would be great if they got downloads on it for you guys, we haven't heard anything about downloads as of yet though.

Unless I'm completely misunderstanding, information about streaming and downloading recordings from V6 My Shows has been given - it's in Virgin TV Control.

theone2k10 02-12-2017 11:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35927223)
Unless I'm completely misunderstanding, information about streaming and downloading recordings from V6 My Shows has been given - it's in Virgin TV Control.

No idea mate, but what i will say imo Virgin medias online offering is far superior to Skys pathetic Skygo offering which still uses the outdated and very unsecure silverlight so unless you put addons onto chrome or use a outdated version of firefox skygo will only work on the security flawed internet explorer.
At least Vms offering works on most modern browsers.

RichardCoulter 03-12-2017 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35926770)
BBC Wales to launch BBC Radio Cymru 2 on January 29th.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...o-cymru-2-2018

I wonder if VM will bother adding this as Radio Cymru 2 will only broadcast its own output for three hours a day, opting out from Radio Cymru with a music based breakfast show from 7-10am while the main station continues with its news based programmes.

RichardCoulter 04-12-2017 14:18

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Apparently, some (or all) of the UKTV channels are currently available in all packages (including HD) on VM.

I can't check this as i'm on Full House.

theone2k10 04-12-2017 15:36

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April 2018 is all i'm saying.

Media Boy UK 04-12-2017 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35927408)
April 2018 is all i'm saying.

It comes before May.:D

Mad Max 04-12-2017 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35927408)
April 2018 is all i'm saying.

That'll be the 1st then............:D

Media Boy UK 04-12-2017 16:04

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Voting lines are now open for round 2 of "the Best of 2017" @ https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/

Lines just open until December 11th so VOTE NOW.

denphone 04-12-2017 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35927408)
April 2018 is all i'm saying.

For what??.

---------- Post added at 16:12 ---------- Previous post was at 16:11 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35927409)
It comes before May.:D

Next April , the one after or the one after that.;)

Media Boy UK 04-12-2017 16:50

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We feel is one of our DNP orders. (Some of them is about new channels)

---------- Post added at 16:50 ---------- Previous post was at 16:13 ----------

This Saturday will be "BT Day" on Virgin UK Channel 100.

BT Sport 1 will broadcast from 12:00 (Midday) on Saturday till 6:30am on Sunday.

Ddonald2016 05-12-2017 00:19

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What is happening in April

Gavin-D 05-12-2017 08:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35927499)
What is happening in April

Price rises?

:LOL: :jk:

denphone 05-12-2017 09:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35927509)
Price rises?

:LOL: :jk:

You might be right sadly.


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