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I just love it when people have a ding dong with each other. Its what makes this forum great
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I haven't been here for a few weeks so sorry if it has already been debated but I'm reading an interview with some fella called David Bouchier concerning the launch of VM's 4K set top box offering, he says they "would put the Football on in 4K if they felt that was what the customer wanted"
Ok I've bought a 4K tv, I've subscribed to the new 4K tivo, why on earth if I had sky sports would I not want to watch it in 4K? Why? These people just don't live in the real world, if your buying a new 4K TV this Christmas and sports and Movies are your thing you WOULD NOT take a VM sub, you would go for BT or SKY instead. Maybe none of you actually want SA, you only think you do, Dave knows best. |
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I have no wish to abandon VM TV. |
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You may not be alone but even 100 people on a forum is not a representative sample of VM's 3.5m TV customer base. |
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But, going back to 4K tv's which a lot of people will buy this Christmas, now to is still limited to 720p, the difference between 720p streaming and 1080i broadcast on a 65" 4K to is quite noticeable.
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I believe that in five years or so Sky will be delivering it's TV service on a platform like Now TV.
If the Fox takeover happens customers will be offered the Sky and Fox portfolio of channels with a greater prominence for On Demand. |
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There's a lot of duplication of channels available on VM within the entertainment pack, I can't see VM wanting to make it available as a Tivo app. On balance we see more people on here complaining about price increases than the lack of Sky Atlantic. Adding a service that duplicates some of what is already available in a lower cost package would just be giving Sky a free advert to attract VM customers wanting a cheaper deal. As for a Now TV app specifically tailored to VM and excluding sports and movies. That's not what Now TV is about and there are 2 problems on that front; VM won't want it potentially stealing their customers. Sky won't want to offer a reduced package, their marketing policy is to get Now TV users to add the other packs. |
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Friends,
Is aintree aka the L10 area on the knowsley headend or liverpool? Or do headends no longer exist?? Apparently knowlseys utilisation issues are being dealt with but i have no clue if im in that. Its been 4 years of utilisation so im thoroughly excited to be eventually disappointed |
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Nowadays we are as likely to see people complaining about the lack of Sony Movies and Sony's True brand channels. I wonder how many of these people will notice a significant change to their viewing patterns when MovieMix transforms into the Sony Movie Channel. |
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I think enough people know about the Now TV option. Whether or not it is on Virgin Media is unlikely to influence existing customers to reduce their package with Virgin. Yes, there is channel duplication, but I have chosen to accept that irritation in order to access the material I want. Many VM customers are doing the same. ---------- Post added at 13:42 ---------- Previous post was at 13:39 ---------- Quote:
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These days, people may have given up going on about Sky Atlantic because Virgin do not seem to be listening. It's certainly not that they don't want it. As for Sky not being prepared to tailor Now TV to offer only one pass on Now TV on Virgin's platform, isn't that exactly what Talk Talk did? |
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I can see that you would like it for convenience but don't see many other people asking for it. A cost / benefit analysis by VM would show little gain and an element of risk of existing customers migrating to Now TV. Quote:
As far as I know, there isn't a tailored solution for Talk Talk, just service limitations due to rights issues on the YouView platform. |
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Not sure how the V6 will affect this strategy. I've even known someone being offered a 50p a month reduction to keep their box! Presumably this is to improve the churn figures. It will be interesting to see these after the last price rise and the forthcoming one too. |
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It does makes sense for EE and Vodafone who don't have wholesale agreements with Sky. |
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Rupert Murdoch's company own Australia's equivalent to Sky (Foxtel). If the Fox-Sky deal goes through (I don't think it will), could Sky become Foxtel UK in the long term?
Would Sky's basic channels also be integrated into the Fox network as well and the current Fox channel close? |
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Sky's recent thrust has been to collaborate on content for Sky Arts across its territories so I guess potentially this channel could be distributed outside Europe. Both Sky and Fox are strong brands so I can't see either ending soon. |
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Now Tv...
Now available on Newer Samsung smart Tv's. :shocked: (More people cut the cord from VM...?) |
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In relation to the v6 I have created a 2 part video via YouTube
https://youtu.be/5CffW5uuC78 https://youtu.be/VE8lLONxdPM |
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You dont like xmas much Donald, do you............:D
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Spike +1 looks to be on its way.
Viacom have just received a licence to broadcast this on cable & satellite. Anyone know if we will be getting ITV Box Office when it starts in early 2017? |
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However, it's the same prospect for the cable companies either way, and they need to up their game to hang on to customers if they cannot come up with a USP. I think the key might be content as many have speculated. Virgin Media need to set up their own streaming service and this needs to include lots of exclusive material to keep up with the competition. The kind of deals John Malone has been getting into with the likes of Lionsgate should help to achieve that goal, given his stated aim to tap into content rather than actually having the cable companies owning it themselves. This outcome won't happen in the short term, but there are already signs that the tectonic plates are shifting. |
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Ah, right, thank you for clarifying that!
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Generally will only be able to timeshift what you're watching though - most TVs will only have one Freeview or Freesat tuner to record from.
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We had a USB drive on our Samsung for a while - you can record from Freeview or Freesat while watching another input.
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http://www.ppav.co.uk/LCD-Displays/LG-32LT75.html https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/lg-32lt75/review/ It does look a little bulky, compared to todays standards, but surely technology has progressed since then and a more sleak model would be possible. If recording can be achieved by attaching a hard drive or USB to modern TV's surely it would be easy to have something as equally small built in? |
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TruTV isn't getting enough viewers, so it's owners are considering closing it, but are in negotiations with a third party to try and sell it first.
The channel launched in 2014, but only came to VM fairly recently. |
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Maybe VM wouldn't pay much or even anything for it, then, following the low viewing figures, the owner relented and it came to VM?? It obviously didn't have much of an impact on the viewing figures! |
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Impractical Jokers is on the pay channels from Comedy Central though... |
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We have recieved info from our sources regarding UHD on VM.
UHD will start arriving on VM early 2017 exclusively for customers on the v6 box, the prices are rumoured as follows those on top tv pack will get UHD content inclusive with the exception of sports and movies UHD where a additional charge will apply. Those on other tv packs can recieve UHD for a small monthly fee, sports and movies in UHD will be extra. For now there will be no UHD on the vm online tv service which will get a overhaul later in 2017. |
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Regarding impractical jokers the US version is exclusive to comedy central in uk i believe the uk version is on 5, the uk version is poor they just do not click like the US guys do. Then again the US guys have been friends for a very long time, the Uk ones were just thrown together by viacom. |
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1. UHD films will appear on Netflix from early 2017 2. UHD sport will be delivered via a Eurosport app (as I don't believe that a deal is available from Sky or BT yet) 3. The early non film/sport UHD programming will be arriving via conventional channels 4. More UHD including Virgin exclusives will be delivered via on demand following the overhaul in late 2017. Is that what you were trying to say? Are we not going to be able to access that special Netflix UHD £7 per month special offer that was referred to earlier on this forum? |
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Either that or as you suggested netflix uhd content or possibly sky movies uhd? We was told vms online tv service tv anywhere? is getting a overhaul in 2017 too. You'll have to excuse meifi'm confusing anyone as on the old jd. |
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Do you think this could include UHD on-demand for shows like The Blacklist which is available on Sky Q? That would be pretty cool. |
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Interestingly i have heard Skys Christmas drama the last dragonslayer will be in UHD on sky but not vm i can't confirm this as i don't have skyq. BBC are now beta testing UHD on iplayer too. ---------- Post added at 13:13 ---------- Previous post was at 13:12 ---------- Quote:
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I found this article, it was updated on 5th Nov 2016. Don't know how true it actually is.
Virgin Media Back in Sky Atlantic Talks http://www.thebritishblacklist.com/v...tlantic-talks/ "The prospect of Sky Atlantic becoming available to Virgin Media’s 3.8 million TV subscribers has moved closer after it emerged that talks between the two companies have reopened. Sources have indicated that the operators have now reopened negotiations and, although a deal is not imminent, they are significantly closer to agreeing a price for Sky Atlantic than they were two years ago." |
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More of that fake news IMO UC.;)
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Cue Dave 42... :rolleyes:
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BT also in talks with SKY too. Talktalk might lose more channels. |
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If ITV Box Office is broadcast on Virgin Media UK it will be on the Live Events Channel - Channel 100. |
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I'm surprised that they think that it's struggling, as it's not really doing that badly according to the viewing figures; there are worse performing channels on Freeview.
Info. courtesy of YouView: TruTV 0.21% Blaze 0.09% YourTV 0.18% True Crime 0.11% Food Network 0.16% Travel Channel 0.14% CBS Drama 0.09% Seems that they have unrealistic expectations. |
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On your linear channels thread, someone argued earlier in the year that linear tv here is not in trouble and channels such as ITV, were doing well based on rising ad sales. But as latest figures shows, ITV's financials are not good and they are only going one way - down. If you love soaps, celebrity chefs, reality and Simon Cowell, then our tv is heaven. But as viewing figures state, ever increasing amounts of people are switching off and finding their entertainment elsewhere. |
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I think that the trouble with new US channels launching in the UK now is that they are handicapped by their best US content being contracted to other channels in the UK. Witness the much-hyped AMC which has failed to make an impact. ---------- Post added at 01:10 ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 ---------- Quote:
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VM are currently working on a secret budget brand with the working title 'Project Prosecco'.
It will be similar to the BT Plusnet offering and offer cheaper & lower BB speeds etc. When everyone has been converted to the V6, I can see the old slow boxes being used for this brand. How many of you would be interested in having a slow TiVo with less channels & reduced BB speed in return for a much cheaper service? Please note that this project is at a very early stage. |
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Yes, I believe a VM lite TV service would work, but no, it's not for me. I want more, not less. |
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Id be quite happy with 20mb BB for a cheaper price, £10 would do it :)
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Did we mention we will also throttle that 2mb speed at peak times too? So you'll problaly be getting 512k but we will still lie and say we're truly unlimited and the fastest in the uk. |
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Glad you don't work for MI6, Rich hahaha :D:angel: But thanks for the info...after all this is what the forum needs, good work ;) |
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It appears that there's a loose tongue within the VM camp! |
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The problem with Tru TV is it is a mishmash of programmes some of which are quite good if you like that sort of thing. It is trying to be everything to all people, they need to decide which audience they are going after and target the prgramming to suit.
Like i said on Digitalspy they would be better off targeting the kids market during the day with Cartoon Network, Cartoonito and Boomerang programmes. With Adult Swim at night time. But of course due to current OFCOM rules Adult Swim would have to have itw own EPG slot in the entertainment section as they do not permit programming aimed at an adult audience to be shown in the kids section of the EPG. Failing that i think they need to go for the reality style shows. They seem to do ok when they show Americas Got Talent and Ru Paul's Drag Race. Add some shows like Survivor, The Apprentice, Bake Off USA, The Amazing Race, Solitary, The Mole and you have a channel that might do quite well. |
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You forgot to mention that they've stopped using fibre cable, and just use very long bits of string ;):D I'm starting to really worry about you, theone :D There must be treatment centres for detoxing disgruntled ex Virgin customers, surely? ;) |
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I was on 50 but it regularly used to drop to less than 5 some evenings. It ruined my streaming on probably 2 occasions but i ended up paying about £11 a month for 18 months before they sorted it :) Happy days :D |
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Discussion on the VM budget brand here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33704108 |
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