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Arthurgray50@blu 12-12-2016 23:43

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I just love it when people have a ding dong with each other. Its what makes this forum great

theone2k10 13-12-2016 00:03

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35875475)
I just love it when people have a ding dong with each other. Its what makes this forum great

It's normaly a dong ding with you though :p:

denphone 13-12-2016 06:40

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35875445)
Careful mate you'll be accused of posting cobblers, i said ealier this year sony movies was going to be on vm in 2017 but hey i post cobblers what do i know.

There was no disrespect aimed at you as l was just saying as it is as we all have opinions on things and sometimes these opinions differ.:)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875450)
I'm always grateful for your tip-offs and my jests are no more than that. :)
As they say, if you don't put your head above the parapet, no one will fire at you. :)

:sniper::sniper: :D

DaMac 13-12-2016 06:58

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I haven't been here for a few weeks so sorry if it has already been debated but I'm reading an interview with some fella called David Bouchier concerning the launch of VM's 4K set top box offering, he says they "would put the Football on in 4K if they felt that was what the customer wanted"
Ok I've bought a 4K tv, I've subscribed to the new 4K tivo, why on earth if I had sky sports would I not want to watch it in 4K? Why? These people just don't live in the real world, if your buying a new 4K TV this Christmas and sports and Movies are your thing you WOULD NOT take a VM sub, you would go for BT or SKY instead.
Maybe none of you actually want SA, you only think you do, Dave knows best.

OLD BOY 13-12-2016 08:00

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35875401)
If some of those Full House subscribers find that most of the content they watch is available on Now TV, it may encourage them to ditch VM and get a Now TV box. A risk they probably aren't prepared to take.

Now TV is already out there and yet VM customers still choose both.

By the way, I meant to mention that I was only meaning that the Entertainment Pack should be available as a streaming service on VM, not sports and movies.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35875412)
you do know sky would have to allow that don't you OB no chance in hell

Why not? It's already available elsewhere. It's the stand alone channel they won't allow on other platforms, not Now TV.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35875431)

Don't full house customers get the sky channels anyway? Which would make it pointless to have nowtv app only available to them.

I disagree. I have the full monty (excluding sports) and I subscribe to the Now TV pack simply to get Sky Atlantic programming. I am not alone in doing so.

I have no wish to abandon VM TV.

1andrew1 13-12-2016 08:22

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875496)
I disagree. I have the full monty (excluding sports) and I subscribe to the Now TV pack simply to get Sky Atlantic programming. I am not alone in doing so.

I have no wish to abandon VM TV.

You and others may have no wish to abandon VM at the moment but you don't know what is around the corner. Your financial circumstances may change and instead of downgrading to the basic M pack you may decide to switch entirely to Now TV. That's easier to do if you already have a relationship with Now TV and they make you repeated great offers to switch.
You may not be alone but even 100 people on a forum is not a representative sample of VM's 3.5m TV customer base.

DaMac 13-12-2016 08:54

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But, going back to 4K tv's which a lot of people will buy this Christmas, now to is still limited to 720p, the difference between 720p streaming and 1080i broadcast on a 65" 4K to is quite noticeable.

The Yank 13-12-2016 10:02

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35875222)
£150+ a month...wow man that's a lot.
I would speak to them and even if you have to say Sky have offered you something better, they should be able to give you a reduction..might have to sign a new contract though.

the new contract is my stumbling point. We are hoping to move house to who know where and don't want to sign any new contract.

1andrew1 13-12-2016 10:10

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875506)
But, going back to 4K tv's which a lot of people will buy this Christmas, now to is still limited to 720p, the difference between 720p streaming and 1080i broadcast on a 65" 4K to is quite noticeable.

I would say it's noticeable on any HD TV over 40 inches.

theone2k10 13-12-2016 10:22

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875496)
Now TV is already out there and yet VM customers still choose both.

By the way, I meant to mention that I was only meaning that the Entertainment Pack should be available as a streaming service on VM, not sports and movies.

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Why not? It's already available elsewhere. It's the stand alone channel they won't allow on other platforms, not Now TV.

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I disagree. I have the full monty (excluding sports) and I subscribe to the Now TV pack simply to get Sky Atlantic programming. I am not alone in doing so.

I have no wish to abandon VM TV.

I can see where you're coming from as i have a verizon kogin which gives me tonnesof us channels plus latest shows, live sports etc but i still have a nowtv sub.

muppetman11 13-12-2016 11:34

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I believe that in five years or so Sky will be delivering it's TV service on a platform like Now TV.

If the Fox takeover happens customers will be offered the Sky and Fox portfolio of channels with a greater prominence for On Demand.

DaMac 13-12-2016 12:07

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875502)
You and others may have no wish to abandon VM at the moment but you don't know what is around the corner. Your financial circumstances may change and instead of downgrading to the basic M pack you may decide to switch entirely to Now TV. That's easier to do if you already have a relationship with Now TV and they make you repeated great offers to switch.
You may not be alone but even 100 people on a forum is not a representative sample of VM's 3.5m TV customer base.

How many of VM's 3.5m TV customers are Active TV customers? Most people have the TV service forcibly pushed on them and are on no higher than M or M+ package, are these people truly representative of VM customers who actively buy a TV package? I would say not.

jj20x 13-12-2016 12:58

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875496)
Now TV is already out there and yet VM customers still choose both.

By the way, I meant to mention that I was only meaning that the Entertainment Pack should be available as a streaming service on VM, not sports and movies

Sure, there are people out there willing to pay £6.99/mth on top of their VM subs just to get Sky Atlantic / ITV Encore but it isn't good value for money. Sure, Now TV has lots of offers and the entertainment pass is available for less but with a lot of messing around chasing for deals.

There's a lot of duplication of channels available on VM within the entertainment pack, I can't see VM wanting to make it available as a Tivo app. On balance we see more people on here complaining about price increases than the lack of Sky Atlantic. Adding a service that duplicates some of what is already available in a lower cost package would just be giving Sky a free advert to attract VM customers wanting a cheaper deal.

As for a Now TV app specifically tailored to VM and excluding sports and movies. That's not what Now TV is about and there are 2 problems on that front; VM won't want it potentially stealing their customers. Sky won't want to offer a reduced package, their marketing policy is to get Now TV users to add the other packs.

vincerooney 13-12-2016 13:10

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Friends,

Is aintree aka the L10 area on the knowsley headend or liverpool? Or do headends no longer exist??

Apparently knowlseys utilisation issues are being dealt with but i have no clue if im in that.

Its been 4 years of utilisation so im thoroughly excited to be eventually disappointed

RichardCoulter 13-12-2016 13:12

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35875441)
Rumour: Movie Mix to become Sony Movies on January 10th on Virgin Media UK.

Also on Freeview

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...1&postcount=14

Now confirmed here:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201612134...#axzz4Sd7WRwEj

Now we know why we didn't get the Sony Movie channel.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35875409)

Can you provide evidence of this? Not just vm say so although i will admit looking at whats been posted it does look like Sky set a high price but we don't know that.

I posted what I was told Sky wanted for SA on here yonks ago. I can't remember the exact figures, but basic channels cost VM a few pennies per customer per week and SA was something like 30p a week.

Sounds cheap, but for VM it all added up.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875535)
How many of VM's 3.5m TV customers are Active TV customers? Most people have the TV service forcibly pushed on them and are on no higher than M or M+ package, are these people truly representative of VM customers who actively buy a TV package? I would say not.

One way VM are making customers upgrade is the V6. If PB and everyone else want a V6, they will have to upgrade from the M/Player package.

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35875542)
Sure, there are people out there willing to pay £6.99/mth on top of their VM subs just to get Sky Atlantic / ITV Encore but it isn't good value for money. Sure, Now TV has lots of offers and the entertainment pass is available for less but with a lot of messing around chasing for deals.

There's a lot of duplication of channels available on VM within the entertainment pack, I can't see VM wanting to make it available as a Tivo app. On balance we see more people on here complaining about price increases than the lack of Sky Atlantic. Adding a service that duplicates some of what is already available in a lower cost package would just be giving Sky a free advert to attract VM customers wanting a cheaper deal.

As for a Now TV app specifically tailored to VM and excluding sports and movies. That's not what Now TV is about and there are 2 problems on that front; VM won't want it potentially stealing their customers. Sky won't want to offer a reduced package, their marketing policy is to get Now TV users to add the other packs.

Lots used to complain about the lack of SA, but I think that they've now resigned themselves to the fact that it won't be coming.

jj20x 13-12-2016 13:30

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35875547)
Lots used to complain about the lack of SA, but I think that they've now resigned themselves to the fact that it won't be coming.

There were a lot more complaints in the early days and disappointment at not being able to view the likes of GOT on VM. Those complaining the loudest have probably moved to Sky long ago. Of those still with VM, the demand has certainly lessened, possibly because some of these people don't want the hassle of playing catch up. Just as some VM viewers didn't continue watching "Lost" after it had been unavailable during the period that Sky basics channels were withheld from VM.

Nowadays we are as likely to see people complaining about the lack of Sony Movies and Sony's True brand channels. I wonder how many of these people will notice a significant change to their viewing patterns when MovieMix transforms into the Sony Movie Channel.

OLD BOY 13-12-2016 13:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875502)
You and others may have no wish to abandon VM at the moment but you don't know what is around the corner. Your financial circumstances may change and instead of downgrading to the basic M pack you may decide to switch entirely to Now TV. That's easier to do if you already have a relationship with Now TV and they make you repeated great offers to switch.
You may not be alone but even 100 people on a forum is not a representative sample of VM's 3.5m TV customer base.

If my financial services changed to the extent that I had to make a radical reduction in my TV expenses, I would be looking at all options anyway, regardless of what I could access from my Tivo. I would be likely to go for the basic Virgin package + Now TV via my Roku regardless.

I think enough people know about the Now TV option. Whether or not it is on Virgin Media is unlikely to influence existing customers to reduce their package with Virgin. Yes, there is channel duplication, but I have chosen to accept that irritation in order to access the material I want. Many VM customers are doing the same.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35875530)
I believe that in five years or so Sky will be delivering it's TV service on a platform like Now TV.

If the Fox takeover happens customers will be offered the Sky and Fox portfolio of channels with a greater prominence for On Demand.

Spot on, Muppetman - that is exactly what Fox are reported to be planning to do. A better streaming service along the lines of Netflix is on the cards if this deal goes through.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875535)
How many of VM's 3.5m TV customers are Active TV customers? Most people have the TV service forcibly pushed on them and are on no higher than M or M+ package, are these people truly representative of VM customers who actively buy a TV package? I would say not.

Forcibly pushed on them? No way. You're thinking of the landline, surely?:confused:

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35875542)
Sure, there are people out there willing to pay £6.99/mth on top of their VM subs just to get Sky Atlantic / ITV Encore but it isn't good value for money. Sure, Now TV has lots of offers and the entertainment pass is available for less but with a lot of messing around chasing for deals.

There's a lot of duplication of channels available on VM within the entertainment pack, I can't see VM wanting to make it available as a Tivo app. On balance we see more people on here complaining about price increases than the lack of Sky Atlantic. Adding a service that duplicates some of what is already available in a lower cost package would just be giving Sky a free advert to attract VM customers wanting a cheaper deal.

As for a Now TV app specifically tailored to VM and excluding sports and movies. That's not what Now TV is about and there are 2 problems on that front; VM won't want it potentially stealing their customers. Sky won't want to offer a reduced package, their marketing policy is to get Now TV users to add the other packs.

If people simply made such decisions on the basis of cost alone, they could still stay with Virgin, cancel their Sky Movies pack and get the Entertainment and Movies passes with Now TV and save money each month, but they are not doing that, are they? People are prepared to pay over the odds for Sky Atlantic in the same way that sport fans pay stupid sums each month for their fix.

These days, people may have given up going on about Sky Atlantic because Virgin do not seem to be listening. It's certainly not that they don't want it.

As for Sky not being prepared to tailor Now TV to offer only one pass on Now TV on Virgin's platform, isn't that exactly what Talk Talk did?

telegramsam 13-12-2016 14:12

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35875549)
There were a lot more complaints in the early days and disappointment at not being able to view the likes of GOT on VM. Those complaining the loudest have probably moved to Sky long ago. Of those still with VM, the demand has certainly lessened, possibly because some of these people don't want the hassle of playing catch up. Just as some VM viewers didn't continue watching "Lost" after it had been unavailable during the period that Sky basics channels were withheld from VM.

Nowadays we are as likely to see people complaining about the lack of Sony Movies and Sony's True brand channels. I wonder how many of these people will notice a significant change to their viewing patterns when MovieMix transforms into the Sony Movie Channel.

Agree with you. I never bothered with Lost once the basic Sky channels were restored to Virgin media. And friends keep telling me I should start watching GOT through box sets and now tv but I really don`t have the time or patience to sit and watch endless hours of one program no matter how good it may be. I`d love Sky Atlantic to be added to Virgin tv but if it doesn`t happen I`m not going to loose any sleep over it!

jj20x 13-12-2016 14:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875552)
If people simply made such decisions on the basis of cost alone, they could still stay with Virgin, cancel their Sky Movies pack and get the Entertainment and Movies passes with Now TV and save money each month, but they are not doing that, are they? People are prepared to pay over the odds for Sky Atlantic in the same way that sport fans pay stupid sums each month for their fix.

People certainly do make these decisions based on cost. The economic forecasts of growing inflation can only lead to this happening more often in the foreseeable future. People are quite probably leaving VM for cheaper packages already, I just don't see VM adding a Now TV app that adds very little other than 2 channels, with much duplication of the rest.

I can see that you would like it for convenience but don't see many other people asking for it. A cost / benefit analysis by VM would show little gain and an element of risk of existing customers migrating to Now TV.

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These days, people may have given up going on about Sky Atlantic because Virgin do not seem to be listening. It's certainly not that they don't want it.

As for Sky not being prepared to tailor Now TV to offer only one pass on Now TV on Virgin's platform, isn't that exactly what Talk Talk did?
SA certainly isn't the "must have" channel it used to be. Whereas some people may have been willing to pay a hefty premium in the early days, that no longer seems to be the case. Anyone totally committed to getting the channel will have made other arrangements long ago.

As far as I know, there isn't a tailored solution for Talk Talk, just service limitations due to rights issues on the YouView platform.

RichardCoulter 13-12-2016 15:18

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875552)
If my financial services changed to the extent that I had to make a radical reduction in my TV expenses, I would be looking at all options anyway, regardless of what I could access from my Tivo. I would be likely to go for the basic Virgin package + Now TV via my Roku regardless.

I think enough people know about the Now TV option. Whether or not it is on Virgin Media is unlikely to influence existing customers to reduce their package with Virgin. Yes, there is channel duplication, but I have chosen to accept that irritation in order to access the material I want. Many VM customers are doing the same.

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Spot on, Muppetman - that is exactly what Fox are reported to be planning to do. A better streaming service along the lines of Netflix is on the cards if this deal goes through.

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Forcibly pushed on them? No way. You're thinking of the landline, surely?:confused:

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If people simply made such decisions on the basis of cost alone, they could still stay with Virgin, cancel their Sky Movies pack and get the Entertainment and Movies passes with Now TV and save money each month, but they are not doing that, are they? People are prepared to pay over the odds for Sky Atlantic in the same way that sport fans pay stupid sums each month for their fix.

These days, people may have given up going on about Sky Atlantic because Virgin do not seem to be listening. It's certainly not that they don't want it.

As for Sky not being prepared to tailor Now TV to offer only one pass on Now TV on Virgin's platform, isn't that exactly what Talk Talk did?

When people cancel their TV, VM usually say they can keep the box to access the M/Player pack on it.

Not sure how the V6 will affect this strategy.

I've even known someone being offered a 50p a month reduction to keep their box!

Presumably this is to improve the churn figures. It will be interesting to see these after the last price rise and the forthcoming one too.

1andrew1 13-12-2016 15:46

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875552)
As for Sky not being prepared to tailor Now TV to offer only one pass on Now TV on Virgin's platform, isn't that exactly what Talk Talk did?

TalkTalk did it for movies and sport but they soon canned it as it made no economic sense. TalkTalk has the YouView Now TV app which just offers Sky Cinema on-demand.
It does makes sense for EE and Vodafone who don't have wholesale agreements with Sky.

theone2k10 13-12-2016 17:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875583)
TalkTalk did it for movies and sport but they soon canned it as it made no economic sense. TalkTalk has the YouView Now TV app which just offers Sky Cinema on-demand.
It does makes sense for EE and Vodafone who don't have wholesale agreements with Sky.

Also it's only nowtv sky cinema on bt youview box too.

1andrew1 13-12-2016 18:03

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35875599)
Also it's only nowtv sky cinema on bt youview box too.

Yes, the retail, Plusnet and BT boxes have only ever had this trimmed down functionality.

Aguero9320 13-12-2016 21:54

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Rupert Murdoch's company own Australia's equivalent to Sky (Foxtel). If the Fox-Sky deal goes through (I don't think it will), could Sky become Foxtel UK in the long term?

Would Sky's basic channels also be integrated into the Fox network as well and the current Fox channel close?

1andrew1 13-12-2016 22:11

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35875664)
Rupert Murdoch's company own Australia's equivalent to Sky (Foxtel). If the Fox-Sky deal goes through (I don't think it will), could Sky become Foxtel UK in the long term?

Would Sky's basic channels also be integrated into the Fox network as well and the current Fox channel close?

Foxtel is owned by Telstra Corporation (50%) and News Corporation (50%). It buys services from Sky plc. It is not owned by 21st Century Fox, the company that is hoping to purchase the remaining 61% of Sky plc that it does not own.

Sky's recent thrust has been to collaborate on content for Sky Arts across its territories so I guess potentially this channel could be distributed outside Europe. Both Sky and Fox are strong brands so I can't see either ending soon.

DaMac 14-12-2016 22:55

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Now Tv...
Now available on Newer Samsung smart Tv's. :shocked:
(More people cut the cord from VM...?)

Chad 14-12-2016 23:01

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875827)
Now Tv...
Now available on Newer Samsung smart Tv's. :shocked:
(More people cut the cord from VM...?)

There are some models that have NOW TV, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and TV Player Plus! All 4 of the big streaming services on one TV.

Ddonald2016 14-12-2016 23:24

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In relation to the v6 I have created a 2 part video via YouTube

https://youtu.be/5CffW5uuC78

https://youtu.be/VE8lLONxdPM

Mad Max 14-12-2016 23:26

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You dont like xmas much Donald, do you............:D

Ddonald2016 14-12-2016 23:41

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35875835)
You dont like xmas much Donald, do you............:D

Nah I'm much more into summer

RichardCoulter 15-12-2016 02:41

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Spike +1 looks to be on its way.

Viacom have just received a licence to broadcast this on cable & satellite.

Anyone know if we will be getting ITV Box Office when it starts in early 2017?

denphone 15-12-2016 05:00

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35875830)
There are some models that have NOW TV, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and TV Player Plus! All 4 of the big streaming services on one TV.

l think LG have some models definitely with 3 of them on.

DaMac 15-12-2016 05:24

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35875830)
There are some models that have NOW TV, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and TV Player Plus! All 4 of the big streaming services on one TV.

Yes, My TV has them all and has had most of them since launch, it recently got the Amazon HDR update and i'm sure Netflix HDR will follow, the reason i made a point of the Now Tv app is it seems to be a significant step in the evolution of the service, once very exclusive, 'now everywhere' (i'm patenting that saying SKY beware my laywer's are watching!!!

Chad 15-12-2016 08:49

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875851)
Yes, My TV has them all and has had most of them since launch, it recently got the Amazon HDR update and i'm sure Netflix HDR will follow, the reason i made a point of the Now Tv app is it seems to be a significant step in the evolution of the service, once very exclusive, 'now everywhere' (i'm patenting that saying SKY beware my laywer's are watching!!!

I'm looking to get a Samsung at Christmas. Next step for these TV's would be to have a PVR built in. That would make them a cord cutters dream.

OLD BOY 15-12-2016 09:30

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35875861)
I'm looking to get a Samsung at Christmas. Next step for these TV's would be to have a PVR built in. That would make them a cord cutters dream.

I can't see the TV manufacturers building in PVRs. However, I do see broadcast channels being replaced by streaming services and unlimited access to programmes through the various streaming channels and the cloud. That would obviate the need for recordings.

However, it's the same prospect for the cable companies either way, and they need to up their game to hang on to customers if they cannot come up with a USP. I think the key might be content as many have speculated. Virgin Media need to set up their own streaming service and this needs to include lots of exclusive material to keep up with the competition. The kind of deals John Malone has been getting into with the likes of Lionsgate should help to achieve that goal, given his stated aim to tap into content rather than actually having the cable companies owning it themselves.

This outcome won't happen in the short term, but there are already signs that the tectonic plates are shifting.

RichardCoulter 15-12-2016 10:05

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35875861)
I'm looking to get a Samsung at Christmas. Next step for these TV's would be to have a PVR built in. That would make them a cord cutters dream.

My Samsung has an optional extra that enables it to record.

OLD BOY 15-12-2016 10:17

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35875870)
My Samsung has an optional extra that enables it to record.

Is it a flat screen and how many hours of recordings will it support? I am surprised, because I would have thought the hard drive would make the TV too bulky by modern standards.

nodrogd 15-12-2016 10:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875872)
Is it a flat screen and how many hours of recordings will it support? I am surprised, because I would have thought the hard drive would make the TV too bulky by modern standards.

A lot of these new TV's support plug-in storage. So anything from a memory stick to a standalone hard drive can be used.

OLD BOY 15-12-2016 10:33

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Ah, right, thank you for clarifying that!

BenMcr 15-12-2016 10:39

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Generally will only be able to timeshift what you're watching though - most TVs will only have one Freeview or Freesat tuner to record from.

theone2k10 15-12-2016 12:02

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35875861)
I'm looking to get a Samsung at Christmas. Next step for these TV's would be to have a PVR built in. That would make them a cord cutters dream.

On my Samsung there is 2 usb ports which you can add external hdd too and the tv can act as a pvr with the external hdds connected.

ozsat 15-12-2016 12:42

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We had a USB drive on our Samsung for a while - you can record from Freeview or Freesat while watching another input.

theone2k10 15-12-2016 14:24

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35875890)
We had a USB drive on our Samsung for a while - you can record from Freeview or Freesat while watching another input.

Mines like that you can record on sattelite and watch something else via terrestial or vice versa.

RichardCoulter 15-12-2016 16:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875872)
Is it a flat screen and how many hours of recordings will it support? I am surprised, because I would have thought the hard drive would make the TV too bulky by modern standards.

Its a flat screen, not sure about how many hours as i've never bought one.

Chad 15-12-2016 23:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875872)
Is it a flat screen and how many hours of recordings will it support? I am surprised, because I would have thought the hard drive would make the TV too bulky by modern standards.

LG did release a TV with built in PVR back in 2007

http://www.ppav.co.uk/LCD-Displays/LG-32LT75.html

https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/lg-32lt75/review/

It does look a little bulky, compared to todays standards, but surely technology has progressed since then and a more sleak model would be possible. If recording can be achieved by attaching a hard drive or USB to modern TV's surely it would be easy to have something as equally small built in?

theone2k10 16-12-2016 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35876009)
LG did release a TV with built in PVR back in 2007

http://www.ppav.co.uk/LCD-Displays/LG-32LT75.html

https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/lg-32lt75/review/

It does look a little bulky, compared to todays standards, but surely technology has progressed since then and a more sleak model would be possible. If recording can be achieved by attaching a hard drive or USB to modern TV's surely it would be easy to have something as equally small built in?

it's probably possible look how small micro sds are and they are now capable of 1tb http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...d-card-1328989

RichardCoulter 17-12-2016 03:09

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TruTV isn't getting enough viewers, so it's owners are considering closing it, but are in negotiations with a third party to try and sell it first.

The channel launched in 2014, but only came to VM fairly recently.

theone2k10 17-12-2016 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876157)
TruTV isn't getting enough viewers, so it's owners are considering closing it, but are in negotiations with a third party to try and sell it first.

The channel launched in 2014, but only came to VM fairly recently.

Because it shows crap that's why.

OLD BOY 17-12-2016 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876157)
TruTV isn't getting enough viewers, so it's owners are considering closing it, but are in negotiations with a third party to try and sell it first.

The channel launched in 2014, but only came to VM fairly recently.

Well, it won't be missed in our house. It shows pathetic reality TV programmes that you can find elsewhere anyway - this truly dreadful channel and others like it will never see the light of day in my lounge!

RichardCoulter 17-12-2016 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876190)
Because it shows crap that's why.

Apparently, TruTV US is all sketch comedy whilst the UK version is still the mixture of crime and docu-reality rubbish that used to define the US channel.

Maybe VM wouldn't pay much or even anything for it, then, following the low viewing figures, the owner relented and it came to VM??

It obviously didn't have much of an impact on the viewing figures!

OLD BOY 17-12-2016 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876212)
Apparently, TruTV US is all sketch comedy whilst the UK version is still the mixture of crime and docu-reality rubbish that used to define the US channel.

Maybe VM wouldn't pay much or even anything for it, then, following the low viewing figures, the owner relented and it came to VM??

It obviously didn't have much of an impact on the viewing figures!

Cable subscribers are a very discerning bunch of characters, of course. :smokin:

theone2k10 17-12-2016 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876212)
Apparently, TruTV US is all sketch comedy whilst the UK version is still the mixture of crime and docu-reality rubbish that used to define the US channel.

Maybe VM wouldn't pay much or even anything for it, then, following the low viewing figures, the owner relented and it came to VM??

It obviously didn't have much of an impact on the viewing figures!

I like TRUTV USA as it has shows like impractical jokers on it.

RichardCoulter 17-12-2016 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876231)
I like TRUTV USA as it has shows like impractical jokers on it.

Maybe they ought to change to the American model??

Impractical Jokers is on the pay channels from Comedy Central though...

OLD BOY 17-12-2016 18:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876231)
I like TRUTV USA as it has shows like impractical jokers on it.

You do realise that the programme is also on the terrestrials over here, don't you, theone? But yes, it sounds better than our version of Tru TV - a bit like our Comedy Central, presumably.

Chad 17-12-2016 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876231)
I like TRUTV USA as it has shows like impractical jokers on it.

When I was in New York last month Impractical Jokers was only nearly all day on Tru TV.

OLD BOY 17-12-2016 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35876277)
When I was in New York last month Impractical Jokers was only nearly all day on Tru TV.

A whole channel devoted to one programme? Ridiculous!!

theone2k10 17-12-2016 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35876263)
You do realise that the programme is also on the terrestrials over here, don't you, theone? But yes, it sounds better than our version of Tru TV - a bit like our Comedy Central, presumably.

Yes i know that OB lol.

theone2k10 18-12-2016 16:36

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We have recieved info from our sources regarding UHD on VM.
UHD will start arriving on VM early 2017 exclusively for customers on the v6 box, the prices are rumoured as follows those on top tv pack will get UHD content inclusive with the exception of sports and movies UHD where a additional charge will apply.
Those on other tv packs can recieve UHD for a small monthly fee, sports and movies in UHD will be extra.
For now there will be no UHD on the vm online tv service which will get a overhaul later in 2017.

Ddonald2016 18-12-2016 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876425)
We have recieved info from our sources regarding UHD on VM.
UHD will start arriving on VM early 2017 exclusively for customers on the v6 box, the prices are rumoured as follows those on top tv pack will get UHD content inclusive with the exception of sports and movies UHD where a additional charge will apply.
Those on other tv packs can recieve UHD for a small monthly fee, sports and movies in UHD will be extra.
For now there will be no UHD on the vm online tv service which will get a overhaul later in 2017.

By sports do they mean but sport or sky sports, why overhaul something just launched

RichardCoulter 18-12-2016 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35876263)
You do realise that the programme is also on the terrestrials over here, don't you, theone? But yes, it sounds better than our version of Tru TV - a bit like our Comedy Central, presumably.

The British version is, not seen the American version on DTT though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35876282)
A whole channel devoted to one programme? Ridiculous!!

Well E4 have done this with Friends :D

theone2k10 18-12-2016 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35876437)
By sports do they mean but sport or sky sports, why overhaul something just launched

Guessing game at mo regarding uhd sports on vm, we think it could be BT.

---------- Post added at 18:30 ---------- Previous post was at 18:29 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876439)
The British version is, not seen the American version on DTT though.



Well E4 have done this with Friends :D

As do comedy central on a daily basis.
Regarding impractical jokers the US version is exclusive to comedy central in uk i believe the uk version is on 5, the uk version is poor they just do not click like the US guys do.
Then again the US guys have been friends for a very long time, the Uk ones were just thrown together by viacom.

Ddonald2016 18-12-2016 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876445)
Guessing game at mo regarding uhd sports on vm, we think it could be BT.

---------- Post added at 18:30 ---------- Previous post was at 18:29 ----------



As do comedy central on a daily basis.
Regarding impractical jokers the US version is exclusive to comedy central in uk i believe the uk version is on 5, the uk version is poor they just do not click like the US guys do.
Then again the US guys have been friends for a very long time, the Uk ones were just thrown together by viacom.

Well in that case where can the uhd movies come from

OLD BOY 18-12-2016 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876425)
We have recieved info from our sources regarding UHD on VM.
UHD will start arriving on VM early 2017 exclusively for customers on the v6 box, the prices are rumoured as follows those on top tv pack will get UHD content inclusive with the exception of sports and movies UHD where a additional charge will apply.
Those on other tv packs can recieve UHD for a small monthly fee, sports and movies in UHD will be extra.
For now there will be no UHD on the vm online tv service which will get a overhaul later in 2017.

I'm not clear about this, theone. Do you mean....

1. UHD films will appear on Netflix from early 2017

2. UHD sport will be delivered via a Eurosport app (as I don't believe that a deal is available from Sky or BT yet)

3. The early non film/sport UHD programming will be arriving via conventional channels

4. More UHD including Virgin exclusives will be delivered via on demand following the overhaul in late 2017.

Is that what you were trying to say? Are we not going to be able to access that special Netflix UHD £7 per month special offer that was referred to earlier on this forum?

theone2k10 18-12-2016 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35876456)
I'm not clear about this, theone. Do you mean....

1. UHD films will appear on Netflix from early 2017

2. UHD sport will be delivered via a Eurosport app (as I don't believe that a deal is available from Sky or BT yet)

3. The early non film/sport UHD programming will be arriving via conventional channels

4. More UHD including Virgin exclusives will be delivered via on demand following the overhaul in late 2017.

Is that what you were trying to say? Are we not going to be able to access that special Netflix UHD £7 per month special offer that was referred to earlier on this forum?

We're trying to get more info but it's sketchy at the moment, we're thinking vm could be launching their own movie service won't exactly rival sky but it'll be ok.
Either that or as you suggested netflix uhd content or possibly sky movies uhd?
We was told vms online tv service tv anywhere? is getting a overhaul in 2017 too.
You'll have to excuse meifi'm confusing anyone as on the old jd.

Chad 18-12-2016 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35866163)
I think it is pushing up the price of TV but it's great news for consumers who are prepared to shop around. SKY and Virgin have been offering some crazy deals to new customers. I've had my TV for SKY for nearly 4 years at 50%, or more, off. Look at this mental offer they e-mailed me earlier today.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...12/1.jpg:large

50% off my TV package for the next 5 years without any contract. Cancel when I want and I don't even have to confirm I accept the offer, it's already applied to my account. I don't currently have SKY Sports or SKY Cinema but if I add them, they automatically go on at 50% off too. The only TV things that are not 50 % off are HD and multiroom.

I'm not the only person to receive this offer. A woman at my work got the same e-mail last week. She's had 50% off her TV for the past 10 months. I thought she must have read it wrong as I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else.

Looks like SKY are at it again. My free broadband deal was due to expire towards the end of January. My bills for February and March showed a price increase of £7.50 which is the current rate for SKY's 17mb broadband. I've already been shopping around looking at the best broadband deals on the market in view of switching. On Friday I missed a call from SKY. Just checked my SKY package online, and my future bills, and it no longer shows my free broadband offer coming to an end next month. It looks like my broadband will continue to be free when my current contract ends.

Ddonald2016 18-12-2016 23:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876460)
We're trying to get more info but it's sketchy at the moment, we're thinking vm could be launching their own movie service won't exactly rival sky but it'll be ok.
Either that or as you suggested netflix uhd content or possibly sky movies uhd?
We was told vms online tv service tv anywhere? is getting a overhaul in 2017 too.
You'll have to excuse meifi'm confusing anyone as on the old jd.

Let's Hope they bring 3G and 4g to tv anywhere

theone2k10 19-12-2016 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35876502)
Let's Hope they bring 3G and 4g to tv anywhere

We think 3G will arrive on the service in 2017.

Ultimate.Conj 19-12-2016 11:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876425)
We have recieved info from our sources regarding UHD on VM.
UHD will start arriving on VM early 2017 exclusively for customers on the v6 box, the prices are rumoured as follows those on top tv pack will get UHD content inclusive with the exception of sports and movies UHD where a additional charge will apply.
Those on other tv packs can recieve UHD for a small monthly fee, sports and movies in UHD will be extra.
For now there will be no UHD on the vm online tv service which will get a overhaul later in 2017.

Thanks for the info, theone.

Do you think this could include UHD on-demand for shows like The Blacklist which is available on Sky Q? That would be pretty cool.

Ddonald2016 19-12-2016 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35876539)
Thanks for the info, theone.

Do you think this could include UHD on-demand for shows like The Blacklist which is available on Sky Q? That would be pretty cool.

There is no chance of that for the now

OLD BOY 19-12-2016 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35876546)
There is no chance of that for the now

Not until a deal is done with Sky, however long that may take.

theone2k10 19-12-2016 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35876550)
Not until a deal is done with Sky, however long that may take.

Actually the deal would need to be done with NBC as they own the rights to the blacklist, Sky do indeed have first run UHD but there's nothing stopping vm from going for secon run rights which they could probably do with a lot of programmes.
Interestingly i have heard Skys Christmas drama the last dragonslayer will be in UHD on sky but not vm i can't confirm this as i don't have skyq.
BBC are now beta testing UHD on iplayer too.

---------- Post added at 13:13 ---------- Previous post was at 13:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35876539)
Thanks for the info, theone.

Do you think this could include UHD on-demand for shows like The Blacklist which is available on Sky Q? That would be pretty cool.

I hope so, yes i hate vm with a passion but it would be nice to see more companies getting top shows in UHD.

Ultimate.Conj 19-12-2016 14:29

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I found this article, it was updated on 5th Nov 2016. Don't know how true it actually is.

Virgin Media Back in Sky Atlantic Talks
http://www.thebritishblacklist.com/v...tlantic-talks/

"The prospect of Sky Atlantic becoming available to Virgin Media’s 3.8 million TV subscribers has moved closer after it emerged that talks between the two companies have reopened.

Sources have indicated that the operators have now reopened negotiations and, although a deal is not imminent, they are significantly closer to agreeing a price for Sky Atlantic than they were two years ago."

denphone 19-12-2016 14:34

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More of that fake news IMO UC.;)

OLD BOY 19-12-2016 14:39

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Cue Dave 42... :rolleyes:

solitaire 19-12-2016 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35876568)
I found this article, it was updated on 5th Nov 2016. Don't know how true it actually is.

Virgin Media Back in Sky Atlantic Talks
http://www.thebritishblacklist.com/v...tlantic-talks/

"The prospect of Sky Atlantic becoming available to Virgin Media’s 3.8 million TV subscribers has moved closer after it emerged that talks between the two companies have reopened.

Sources have indicated that the operators have now reopened negotiations and, although a deal is not imminent, they are significantly closer to agreeing a price for Sky Atlantic than they were two years ago."

Be careful, you may upset certain posters with that story. ;)

OLD BOY 19-12-2016 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by solitaire (Post 35876576)
Be careful, you may upset certain posters with that story. ;)

If true, the discussions might have been prompted by Virgin's interest in acquiring UHD channels.

theone2k10 19-12-2016 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35876571)
More of that fake news IMO UC.;)

They've actually been in talks for quite awhile over negotitating a new deal with SKY.
BT also in talks with SKY too.
Talktalk might lose more channels.

1andrew1 19-12-2016 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35876568)
I found this article, it was updated on 5th Nov 2016. Don't know how true it actually is.

Virgin Media Back in Sky Atlantic Talks
http://www.thebritishblacklist.com/v...tlantic-talks/

"The prospect of Sky Atlantic becoming available to Virgin Media’s 3.8 million TV subscribers has moved closer after it emerged that talks between the two companies have reopened.

Sources have indicated that the operators have now reopened negotiations and, although a deal is not imminent, they are significantly closer to agreeing a price for Sky Atlantic than they were two years ago."

That undated British Black List article contains a link to a Broadcast Now article dated 27 June 2013. :erm:
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...&contentID=870

Ultimate.Conj 19-12-2016 14:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35876580)
That undated British Black List article contains a link to a Broadcast Now article dated 27 June 2013. :erm:
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...&contentID=870

Google says the article was updated on 5th November...not sure what was added/update though. Seems to be the exact article from 2013. I wasn't sure how true it was lol

1andrew1 19-12-2016 14:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35876581)
Google says the article was updated on 5th November...not sure what was added/update though. Seems to be the exact article from 2013. I wasn't sure how true it was lol

They may have just changed it so that it appeared in search engines. The article source seems to be that 2013 article, nothing more recent I'm afraid.

denphone 19-12-2016 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35876575)
Cue Dave 42... :rolleyes:

Come on OB old Dave has been right up to now.;)

Media Boy UK 19-12-2016 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876157)
TruTV isn't getting enough viewers, so it's owners are considering closing it, but are in negotiations with a third party to try and sell it first.

The channel launched in 2014, but only came to VM fairly recently.

Any links to story?

---------- Post added at 15:15 ---------- Previous post was at 15:13 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35875846)
Anyone know if we will be getting ITV Box Office when it starts in early 2017?

No News yet.

If ITV Box Office is broadcast on Virgin Media UK it will be on the Live Events Channel - Channel 100.

1andrew1 19-12-2016 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35876584)
Any links to story?

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/12/t...urner-dtt.html

Media Boy UK 19-12-2016 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35876587)

We found that after we ask.

---------- Post added at 15:34 ---------- Previous post was at 15:24 ----------

Virgin Media takeover TruTV?

Quote:

it is understood that Turner, which also runs CNN and Cartoon Network among other channels, is in negotiations with an unknown third party over a deal that could save the TruTV from the axe.

RichardCoulter 19-12-2016 17:07

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I'm surprised that they think that it's struggling, as it's not really doing that badly according to the viewing figures; there are worse performing channels on Freeview.

Info. courtesy of YouView:

TruTV 0.21%

Blaze 0.09%
YourTV 0.18%
True Crime 0.11%
Food Network 0.16%
Travel Channel 0.14%
CBS Drama 0.09%

Seems that they have unrealistic expectations.

OLD BOY 19-12-2016 17:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876607)
I'm surprised that they think that it's struggling, as it's not really doing that badly according to the viewing figures; there are worse performing channels on Freeview.

Info. courtesy of YouView:

TruTV 0.21%

Blaze 0.09%
YourTV 0.18%
True Crime 0.11%
Food Network 0.16%
Travel Channel 0.14%
CBS Drama 0.09%

Seems that they have unrealistic expectations.

You'd think by now they'd realise that to get a bigger audience, you need better programmes that don't insult our intelligence.

Horizon 19-12-2016 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35876608)
You'd think by now they'd realise that to get a bigger audience, you need better programmes that don't insult our intelligence.

It's quite ironic that everyone compares us to the Americans, but over there they are producing more drama and good dramas at that, than ever before. Whereas our main channels produce less.

On your linear channels thread, someone argued earlier in the year that linear tv here is not in trouble and channels such as ITV, were doing well based on rising ad sales. But as latest figures shows, ITV's financials are not good and they are only going one way - down.

If you love soaps, celebrity chefs, reality and Simon Cowell, then our tv is heaven. But as viewing figures state, ever increasing amounts of people are switching off and finding their entertainment elsewhere.

1andrew1 20-12-2016 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876607)
I'm surprised that they think that it's struggling, as it's not really doing that badly according to the viewing figures; there are worse performing channels on Freeview.

Info. courtesy of YouView:

TruTV 0.21%

Blaze 0.09%
YourTV 0.18%
True Crime 0.11%
Food Network 0.16%
Travel Channel 0.14%
CBS Drama 0.09%

Seems that they have unrealistic expectations.

Maybe it's not viewers that the channel has struggled with but advertisers. ITV have had problems here too.
I think that the trouble with new US channels launching in the UK now is that they are handicapped by their best US content being contracted to other channels in the UK. Witness the much-hyped AMC which has failed to make an impact.

---------- Post added at 01:10 ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35876619)
It's quite ironic that everyone compares us to the Americans, but over there they are producing more drama and good dramas at that, than ever before. Whereas our main channels produce less.

On your linear channels thread, someone argued earlier in the year that linear tv here is not in trouble and channels such as ITV, were doing well based on rising ad sales. But as latest figures shows, ITV's financials are not good and they are only going one way - down.

If you love soaps, celebrity chefs, reality and Simon Cowell, then our tv is heaven. But as viewing figures state, ever increasing amounts of people are switching off and finding their entertainment elsewhere.

I don't think ITV was suffering from a lack of viewers, it was suffering from uncertainty in the advertising market since the referendum. Most of ITV's profits come from advertising. That was back in October; perhaps TV advertising has improved since then.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...inty-followin/

RichardCoulter 20-12-2016 12:48

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VM are currently working on a secret budget brand with the working title 'Project Prosecco'.

It will be similar to the BT Plusnet offering and offer cheaper & lower BB speeds etc.

When everyone has been converted to the V6, I can see the old slow boxes being used for this brand.

How many of you would be interested in having a slow TiVo with less channels & reduced BB speed in return for a much cheaper service?

Please note that this project is at a very early stage.

OLD BOY 20-12-2016 13:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876780)
VM are currently working on a secret budget brand with the working title 'Project Prosecco'.

It will be similar to the BT Plusnet offering and offer cheaper & lower BB speeds etc.

When everyone has been converted to the V6, I can see the old slow boxes being used for this brand.

How many of you would be interested in having a slow TiVo with less channels & reduced BB speed in return for a much cheaper service?

Please note that this project is at a very early stage.

Actually, with fewer bells and whistles on it, the old Tivos might work perfectly.

Yes, I believe a VM lite TV service would work, but no, it's not for me. I want more, not less.

johnathome 20-12-2016 13:16

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Id be quite happy with 20mb BB for a cheaper price, £10 would do it :)

theone2k10 20-12-2016 13:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876780)
VM are currently working on a secret budget brand with the working title 'Project Prosecco'.

It will be similar to the BT Plusnet offering and offer cheaper & lower BB speeds etc.

When everyone has been converted to the V6, I can see the old slow boxes being used for this brand.

How many of you would be interested in having a slow TiVo with less channels & reduced BB speed in return for a much cheaper service?

Please note that this project is at a very early stage.

Superb pay for 20mb but only get 2mb if you're lucky oh we'll be nice and give you 0.1mb upload speed too all for a great price of £30p/m which will rise by an average of 9% every few months.
Did we mention we will also throttle that 2mb speed at peak times too? So you'll problaly be getting 512k but we will still lie and say we're truly unlimited and the fastest in the uk.

Ultimate.Conj 20-12-2016 13:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876780)
VM are currently working on a secret budget brand with the working title 'Project Prosecco'.

It will be similar to the BT Plusnet offering and offer cheaper & lower BB speeds etc.

When everyone has been converted to the V6, I can see the old slow boxes being used for this brand.

How many of you would be interested in having a slow TiVo with less channels & reduced BB speed in return for a much cheaper service?

Please note that this project is at a very early stage.

Can't be that secret if you know about it and have told us all lol
Glad you don't work for MI6, Rich hahaha :D:angel:

But thanks for the info...after all this is what the forum needs, good work ;)

RichardCoulter 20-12-2016 17:43

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35876794)
Can't be that secret if you know about it and have told us all lol
Glad you don't work for MI6, Rich hahaha :D:angel:

But thanks for the info...after all this is what the forum needs, good work ;)

Lol, it's already been leaked, so the more specialised media press may pick it up if they find it newsworthy enough.

It appears that there's a loose tongue within the VM camp!

vincerooney 20-12-2016 17:50

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35876788)
Id be quite happy with 20mb BB for a cheaper price, £10 would do it :)

i'm on 150mbps and i get 0.90mbps after 5pm in my area due to too many people connected to the network. If this cheap brand launches and people in my area go for it i may as well bury my superhub in the back garden since it'll be worthless

Bananaman_007 20-12-2016 20:10

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The problem with Tru TV is it is a mishmash of programmes some of which are quite good if you like that sort of thing. It is trying to be everything to all people, they need to decide which audience they are going after and target the prgramming to suit.

Like i said on Digitalspy they would be better off targeting the kids market during the day with Cartoon Network, Cartoonito and Boomerang programmes. With Adult Swim at night time. But of course due to current OFCOM rules Adult Swim would have to have itw own EPG slot in the entertainment section as they do not permit programming aimed at an adult audience to be shown in the kids section of the EPG.

Failing that i think they need to go for the reality style shows. They seem to do ok when they show Americas Got Talent and Ru Paul's Drag Race. Add some shows like Survivor, The Apprentice, Bake Off USA, The Amazing Race, Solitary, The Mole and you have a channel that might do quite well.

passingbat 20-12-2016 23:42

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35876791)
Superb pay for 20mb but only get 2mb if you're lucky oh we'll be nice and give you 0.1mb upload speed too all for a great price of £30p/m which will rise by an average of 9% every few months.
Did we mention we will also throttle that 2mb speed at peak times too? So you'll problaly be getting 512k but we will still lie and say we're truly unlimited and the fastest in the uk.


You forgot to mention that they've stopped using fibre cable, and just use very long bits of string ;):D

I'm starting to really worry about you, theone :D There must be treatment centres for detoxing disgruntled ex Virgin customers, surely? ;)

theone2k10 21-12-2016 01:39

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35876927)
You forgot to mention that they've stopped using fibre cable, and just use very long bits of string ;):D

I'm starting to really worry about you, theone :D There must be treatment centres for detoxing disgruntled ex Virgin customers, surely? ;)

There is but they said i'm beyond help :D

johnathome 21-12-2016 02:20

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35876855)
i'm on 150mbps and i get 0.90mbps after 5pm in my area due to too many people connected to the network. If this cheap brand launches and people in my area go for it i may as well bury my superhub in the back garden since it'll be worthless

I hope you're getting a huge discount!

I was on 50 but it regularly used to drop to less than 5 some evenings. It ruined my streaming on probably 2 occasions but i ended up paying about £11 a month for 18 months before they sorted it :)

Happy days :D

1andrew1 21-12-2016 12:57

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35876854)
Lol, it's already been leaked, so the more specialised media press may pick it up if they find it newsworthy enough.

It appears that there's a loose tongue within the VM camp!

I think it was a deliberate leak to The Daily Telegraph. They were the first to report that VM had hired David Bouchier as Chief Digital Entertainment Officer and then had a follow-up interview with him when he advised the V6 would be launched at the end of the year.

Discussion on the VM budget brand here:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33704108


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