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Anyone who thinks Jo Cox's murder was a "false flag" operation to influence the vote is a weak minded fool.

We could spend hours explaining in detail why it's just not a credible idea, but there would be no point. The people who already believe this have already proved that reason is an alien concept to them.

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I don't believe we would be having the chance to vote if it wasn't for Nigel.


Pomp and Circumstance / Open your doors, all of your windows and turn your volume up to number 11.

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So let me get this right.

Jo Cox's murder is a put up job just so that "Remain" can win the referendum?

Has anyone asked her about it?

Has anyone asked her family about it?

Do you realise she'll have to do a Lord Lucan and never appear in public again?

I think that it's disgusting that Jo's murder should even be brought into the referendum campaign and more so to say it's been faked to influence it!

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Quite, only directed at those who said it. They don't represent anyone else.

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All Daves broken promises, the lies and the bullsh*t
https://www.facebook.com/leaveeuoffi...1/?pnref=story

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Not a fan then?

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I hope we remain and I think a result that close will be the best outcome for the country as it'll keep the pressure on

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I really don't mind the different opinions in this debate, it's the lies and BS I have a problem with.

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Whichever side wins i hope it's a big win .As a country we need to put this to bed and get on with the day to day running of the country .We still have massive austerity measures ,the economy is still shaky and the Tories will probably tear themselves apart ,the last thing we need is a split decision on the referendum

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This is right, regardless what people think of him now, if not for him, we wouldn't even have a referendum.

He's accomplished his mission, it's now down to the rest of us to accomplish ours.

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The Times is reporting that big banks are telling their clients to prepare for a Leave vote tonight.

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So that's 76 million Turks that think Dave is a TWiT too.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/06/25.jpg

"We're not gonna go there just because you produce Cadbury chocolate's and Malteser's for God's sake!"

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Iain Duncan Smith on French leak proving EU-Turkey talks soon.

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We might produce them, but we don't own them. :D

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Big tech companies and which side they support

Brexit: Where UK tech companies stand on the EU referendum http://www.engadget.com/2016/06/22/b...eu-referendum/

Mostly remain. Only Dyson are on a Brexit vote

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DC has made the UK a laughing stock to the world and after this vote the world will see us as a lesser people in the grand scheme of things no matter the outcome

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I've said this from the start. they just see a lot of waffle and an idiot underneath it all. he's made this country a laughing stock.

roll on Boris. the other idiot.

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Leave will win.
over 97,000 views on the Referendum thread.
over 97,000 views on the Immigration thread.
over 36 million views on the Dave is a TWiT with an A thread.

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And who pays for the Brits who are treated abroad? Even in this country different areas of the UK argue over who pays for some things. Example. My wife had a stroke in 2005 while she was in Kent as her sister had died. She was treated in Canterbury hospital and transferred to Edinburgh when we lived there and all they could row about was who paid for the ambulance. I think, though I have to do some research, that we pay for treatment to our citizens abroad or at least contribute to it.

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I did not say I believed it, I said it was plausible. It is actually a sick attempt to influence the vote.

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My sentiments exactly, however, he was preaching to the converted. That's the kind of speech he should have been making all along and on the debates.

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Keep the faith all you who want to leave the EU. I've got a good feeling about this. Independence is only 15 hours away.

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Would the NHS have a long term future is we vote remain?

I don't see how the NHS could survive with a remain vote. How can you have only 1 member "state" with a free health care system. Wouldn't that be like launching a NHS style free health care system in lets say Florida but the rest of America has a pay as you go/ private insurance system?

Surely the entire USA would just move or try to move to Florida for the free health care?

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He's made himself look inept and duplicitous. From the point at which he came back from his EU 'negotiations' with sweet FA, he's basically gone back on what he said and changed tack from 'the UK could thrive outside the EU' to 'the UK will implode if we leave'.

It's been a thoroughly disingenuous campaign on his behalf and I expected far more than that. Just goes to show how wrong you can be eh but then, the global forces lined up to push us to stay are powerful and politicians always like to be on the winning side even if it means lying through their teeth. There'll be plenty of jobs for them within the old boys network.

The sight of Obama telling the UK we'd be at the back of the queue tells you all you need to know about how the US views the UK. It ought to be a lesson learned for the next time the Americans come looking for us to support them. Given the economic world we live in it's no surprise to me that other countries with whom we compete might gives us the advice that's best for them and not necessarily us...

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Don't worry because, as you know, people can't abuse the NHS. It never happens. It's all lies made up by the tabloid press and the various whistle-blowers who've exposed the level of the abuse are all in the pay of nasty Nigel Farage. Tell me who on Earth would travel to the UK just to get free maternity treatment, dialysis or whatever? It's simply not credible and those who do have to use the system but aren't entitled to free care always have to pay for it. The mechanisms for ensuring that are just as robust as those in place to 'force' illegal migrants who those EU migrants who can't find work in the UK go back home. I really don't know what anyone's worrying about - it's not as though we have a huge problem deporting illegals is it. Not as though the NHS and our various welfare services can't cope at all is it. Not as though there are local authorities the length of the UK who can't house everyone is it. By this time next year, on current trends, the equivalent of the entire population of Iceland will come to the UK but an extra million people every 3 years is not a problem at all, we'll just build the homes, schools, roads etc. that are required on all the free land we have just waiting to be developed. It won't affect the environment either because they'll all be given bikes to travel everywhere and they won't add to our growing elderly population in time because they'll never grow old.... :rolleyes:

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from both sides.

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How so?

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It's not plausible, and with respect as I don't know you....Only an idiot would think that.

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Another thing I worry about with a remain vote,

When this government recently decided to try and change/cut working tax credits/inwork tax credits the PEOPLE OF BRITAIN stood up and said no so changes were scrapped.

In years to come will the EU have a say over our benefit system that means even if the people of Britain say NO! to benefit/NHS changes will the power of the EU mean our government is powerless to listen?

Will we need to run it past all member states? Atleast if we're out we can pressure our own elected leaders do what the people want. I'm not sure sure this will be possible in the future.

I see why the many many famous millionaires and millionaire business leaders want us to remain, I just don't see Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms average would want to?

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Why would the EU suddenly have a say in something like that when they haven't before?

The EU don't interfere with everything you know.

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Encouraging reports of high turnout, already queues at many London polling stations anyway

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Why wait to find out? Leave Europe an I suspect nothing changes apart from we control our own laws. We will remain probably anyway, when you find out thousand and thousands of Polish and German citizens were "accidentally" sent polling/voting cards to vote today..... Well decide for yourself, how or why that happened.

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Just read that. Makes sense to prepare even if it's highly unlikely.

Your best guide to how the markets are reacting is probably this.

As good a guide as any to the polls is:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/06/3.png


The chance of leaving peaked at ~40%. It's now down at 25%.

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We voted first thing this morning for leave. I'm glad in some way that there were no party hacks at the polling station as I would have given them the first degree on how appaling this campaign has been on both sides with stupid lies and deceit at every opportunity.

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pointless speculation that means absolutely nothing.

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Sure, yeah nothing changes...............righty-o then.

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Today we’ve got a big decision to make - do we stay or do we leave the EU? No matter how you plan to vote, we all have one thing in common: we’re deciding the UK's future together. Every single one of us gets a say. There's no safe seats, no wasted votes.

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He's made himself look inept and duplicitous. From the point at which he came back from his EU 'negotiations' with sweet FA, he's basically gone back on what he said and changed tack from 'the UK could thrive outside the EU' to 'the UK will implode if we leave'.

Behave. Stop using such big words at this time of the day LOL.

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Just hope a lot of people read the front page of the Daily Mail before voting as if it is true there is still a chance to sway potential Remain voters to vote "Leave".

I feel sorry for all the postal voters who voted early on the basis of what was said only to discover that this morning a lot of it was lies.

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Oh I don't know...Pierre.

The president of the USA getting involved in our affairs. standing on our soil on live tv threatening the UK population on our future with the USA.

While our leader backs him up, the whole Turkey agreement fast tracking, not fast tracking, even Turkey are like WTF is going on.

The whole EU deal he didn't get. How the EU as a whole now view the UK because he's caused political in fighting.

he's turned the UK population in on itself. He said he would back the UK on leaving if he didn't get what he wanted from the EU.

He came back with nothing but still decided to be in the old boys club going back on his word to the UK people and making himself and the UK look like an idiot.

Even the IN voters giving 2 fingers to the fishermen of this country that have lost jobs and business.

It would have been better to have had a lie detector test attached to him when he was speaking to the audience it probably would have crashed out from being overworked.

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Went out, voted Leave.

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Might have been best he didn't turn up. I like the guy but it might not have any favours turning up because of the whole poster nonsense.

It might be that he was asked to lay low. but in the grand scheme of things he's not the fore front of the leave campaign and after the main 2 hour debate the other night I was happy for it to end at that.

I don't think anymore could have been said from either side as it was turning into a repeat of old saying from other debates and just the usual he said she said from both parties.

I still don't know why they brought Scotland into the debate they wanted to leave the UK for independence a bit like we want to do now so I don't really understand why they thought they were arguing for our interests when they didn't care about jobs, health and the economy.

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As a Christian on the more charismatic, evangelical wing I look with concern how a more liberal and secular Europe can affect this country. Please note that I am not supporting anyone who would use their faith as an excuse for hate, that is not part of the Christian faith even if it has been used as such in the past. So I am voting leave.

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Same here.

Can see the Voting Station from my house but it has not been that busy so far, have to wait and see after people have got home from work.

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I have voted Leave.

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Well Scotland didn't want to leave the UK as the results showed.

It was the SNP who wanted to leave and ultimately the Scottish people voted to remain.

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No he didn't. He gave them what was he promised in his election manifesto - a referendum.

The UK population has turned on itself all by itself.

If he hadn't offered the referendum he would have been the Breaker of Promises - he can't win can he?

evidently he considered the concessions he got as enough.

he didn't, you may not think he came back with enough but he didn't come back with nothing.

nothing to do with him. Geldof is just a dick - a well known fact.

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Seeing as whatever he did get is subject to ratification by the 27 other states. Ain't going to happen.


True.

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Most countries in Europe are less secular than the UK so if anything being a member of the EU can only help in that sense

J

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Well done all voting leave. I am quietly confident.

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There's a pretty good reason to vote remain: liberalism, liberty and equality, and secularism, treating all equally regardless of religious belief rather than favouring one group over another.

Thanks! :)

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The data seems to indicate you're quietly deluded. The pound just hit its highest level against the dollar since last year, the bookies' odds favour remain most heavily since the book was opened.

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most bookies got Remain as favourites :D:D

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Countries may be less secular but as an institution the EU is extremely so.

And maybe it is also the way that Britain works that it impacts us more than other nations but as a group we see the way legislation is framed as being hostile to us.

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Oh how I pray to God they are wrong.

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Actually in the last few hours the odds on remain winning have gone from 1/4 on to 1/7 on so that does not bode too well for the Brexit side in my opinion.

https://www.justbookies.com/election...hdixoCl3bw_wcB

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exactly they only arguments seem to be on lies

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Old odds, 1/9 to 1/12 now. Indications so far are that turnout is very high.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/06/24.jpg

everyone know he only went out because he wants Cameron's job

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Don't know what is driving the backing of Remain

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I hope if we remain the younger generation don't love to regret it. Just like those that voted to join all those years ago seem to feel they were lied to back the .

It's just another case of history repeating........

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Me either, but I suspect if we do remain and it's close UKIP are going to become very popular and labour will repeat in England the disaster they had in Scotland.

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French President said yesterday NO MORE concessions for the UK if we remain.

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Just how can they tell that. As far as I'm aware there isn't an exit poll?

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Fear, nothing else.

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he claimed on radio the other day he has some kind of pre-agreement documentation.

If he doesn't get what he claims he's agreed he'll be crucified.

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The bookies shorten odds when there is a considerable weight of money being bet on the outcome of something Brian plus the bookies get quite a lot of insider information from informed sources about the vast majority of what they offer odds on and at the end of the day l don't see many poor bookies around as they usually get most things right.

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I'll make the cross up for free. :D

If the vote is for remain I expect a huge surge in UKIP support.

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The leave side have quite simply failed to win the argument that we will be better out.

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Indeed, if the country really wants out, there's the avenue.

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And you don't need 50% +1 to get a UKIP government. :)

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Well whichever way it ends I still have to go to work tomorrow and pay the bills....I'll be glad to concentrate on something else after this to be honest.

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Now the precedent is set for an EU referendum they'll never be able to get away with leaving without one.

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Proxy voting is apparently pretty heavy which may go some way.

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The EU will find a way of banning another one.

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Yup, the election officer at my local polling station said it had been busy down there, and that really is saying something in our neck of the woods. :D

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I believe we do now have an Act of Parliament requiring a referendum before any new EU treaty can be ratified.

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It greatly concerns me that many Christians don't understand the spiritual aspect behind the EU, which I mentioned in the faith thread and is summed up perfectly by this video that I posted there.

The Rape of Europe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66uCnNwLJtM

It is not a coincidence that the EU Parliament building is modelled on the 16th century painting of the tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel, and even represents the unfinished part. And that a 90s poster for the EU showed people rebuilding the tower of Babel. The Tower of Babel, Biblically, represents the first attempt at a One World Government. The EU, in my view is part of what's going on globally to try to lay the foundations for the future One World Government, which the devil eventually brings about in the end times.

It is worrying, that many Christians don't believe that the spiritual battle, that the Bible talks about, is real.

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If the promises made by Cameron prove to be untrue, all we can hope for is that there is a massive switch to UKIP and other anti-EU parties in the MEP elections.

There is considerable opposition to the EU in other EU countries and if this can be mobilised maybe they can become the dominant force in the EU and change policy.

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yes they will.

If they have a clear manifesto that a vote for them is a vote to leave the EU, and they are elected on that mandate - then so be it.

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They can't, any country can leave at any time they want.

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Good.

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A straw poll on the petrol forecourt today; previous Brexiters now deciding 'better the devil you know'. How predictably British. Had to wait a while as well , there seems to be panic buying of fuel for some reason..

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Just been listening to a group of 10+ college students discussing this in the pub. Sadly, the 'we won't be able to go on holiday in Europe if we leave the EU' argument was popular... :rolleyes:

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:tu:

Policy certainly needs to be changed regardless of the result of today's vote. It's a ticking time bomb.

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Let's hope they don't just decide we don't need that anymore while the parliamentary majority supports staying in... :erm:

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There is no panic buying of fuel, where do you get this stuff from lololol:D.

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From trying to fill the tank this morning, that's where !

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If people were that worried there would be panic buying and hoarding. I can't see how anyone can sit here and say this is happening and that is happening regarding the referendum. I do notice it's all coming from the remainers in here though.

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Let's hope our exit poll here reflects the mood of the country 60-40 in favour of leave
at the moment.

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Been out and about this morning and the one thing I haven't seen is panic buying of fuel. :rofl:

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It is not modelled on the Tower of Babel - just because Glenn Beck said so, doesn't make it true*....

There are hundreds of buildings of that design, and I've seen some of them in this and other countries - are they all based on the Tower of Babel?

The Tower of Babel is a myth, anyway...




*in fact, if he states something, it usually isn't true... ;)

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You think they're expecting a Remain vote then? ;)

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Fair enough, what area was this? How long was the queue of cars? Just a rough estimate, from the entrance to the garage forecourt how long was the queue of cars down the road? 200 meters? 300? or how many cars long would you guess it was? 50 cars in a queue? 100?

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Sterling has started dropping sharply....

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Speculators at work. Don't worry about it.

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The bookies odds are still the same as Remain is long odds on still.

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Here in the south east they're probably thinking that if we get many more people moving in we won't need fuel for our cars because they won't be going anywhere. ;)

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Many of my European friends are against the EU and the Euro plus think their leaders have betrayed their countries many, many times over.

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Same here.

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Saw this online...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36429482

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So as I'm currently living a country that is a member of and has to follow the laws of the EU/EC, How do I vote for the next president of the EC?

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I don't remember any one voting for Gordon Brown, or for John Major when he took over from MT.

Anyway, it's a straw man argument, as our elected MEPs vote on things - but you knew that....

You may find this informative

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts...s-bureaucrats/

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Rather than boring facts Hugh, give us your vote, in or out (apologies if I've missed it!)

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I guess the point is that as Britain is just a pawn in the game, the EU elections carry minimal weight.
It is the General Election in this country where a real European decision can be made.
If today's vote ends up too close there could well be a political bloodbath.
I wonder how many defections there might be.....

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British MEPs are a small minority of the European parliament, which has no pan-European parties and can therefore have no pan-European election campaign. There is no means by which anyone can mount an election campaign based on any meaningful manifesto and it is impossible for anyone to pursue a coherent legislative programme via this Strasbourg-Brussels assembly.

There is no common body politic across Europe - no demos - and without that, you can't escape the fact that the parliament is using the votes of foreigners to over-ride the expressed wishes of the British people and their representatives in it. This is not the case in Westminster, of course, because regardless of regional and national differences we recognise Britishness as a political construct that unites us all.

That is why the European Parliament is undemocratic. Our demos is British, not European, and the European Parliament by its very nature acts against the democratic will of the British people.

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Returning officer in Scotland estimates turnout at 70-80%.

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My reply was to a post by another Christian re what Christians should be considering when deciding how to vote.

I understand, from your posts previously that you are not a Christian and therefore the things that I wrote, naturally seem like nonsense to you. That is fair enough and I have no problem with that. But to practising Christians, it should be very relevant.

I don't know who Glenn Beck is, but David Hathaway is an Evangelical Christian of very long standing. There may be other buildings based on the TOB, but I seem to recall in the video that he says that the European parliament being based on the TOB in the painting is quite generally acknowledged.

For Christians though, the 90s poster should set alarm bells ringing, especially with the inverted stars, which are often associated with the occult.

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I've just been reading a "What if" piece about what if England's votes mean Scotland leaves the EU.

WHAT IF Scotland's votes mean England remains in the EU?

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then we respectfully accept the democratic process and carry on loving each other as we always have ;)

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So in summary then, the European Parliament is a modern day Tower of Babel inhabited by Satanists ..

Or did I get that wrong?

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I am sorry, I can't love The Gover ... do I need therapy ;)*

* don't even think about it ..

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Some working class areas hit their general election turnout by lunchtime. Brexit areas seem to have huge turnout, London looks to be somewhat smaller due to the weather

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Hey, don't forget us Welsh.... As a nation of scroungers I expect a landslide vote to remain.

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whats not to love who couldn't love that face