Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603126)

yes like last one was exactly same false not true

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35603129)

And Suarez:)

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603128)

So that they are really getting a bashing on twitter and Facebook:D

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35603133)

My insider cant back him up.

I got an PM from them at 9.50pm.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603136)

thanks MB didn't believe it for 1 second

Originally Posted by Asian Channel (Post 35603091)

****** from insider****** **** DO NOT POST UNTIL AFTER 8PM ********

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& DO NOT POST UNTIL AFTER 8PM &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&


I just finished my shift in the Wythenshawe call centre we have had 50 -60 calls queuing all day all about bt sports

On Thursday I said in my e-mail virgin are having a football day we have been told to dress as footballers.

there has been about 12 e-mails flying about for overtime on Thursday for retention calls the more we save the more tickets we get to Manchester united Manchester city matches.

we have also been told that a video conference will happen with bt at 22.15 tonight from hook in Hampshire.

in the retentions department we have been told that if a customer really wants to leave we may be able to offer sky sports half price for 6 months but not in hd. or a broadband upgrade or spotify free

our comms department are saying that virgin is looking to launch bt on the 17th august

I have spoken to the network team (head end ) Bromley they told me they have been told to allocate 4 channels for the 12th August for a slate and when I was messing around on our test boxes hear in the faults dept. channels 992 993 both showing a picture of the bt tower in London saying (bt feed ) mpeg


This is from my insider in Manchester. (C) 2013 Asian Channel

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35603138)

Same here

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603139)

What a load of twaddle poor desperation tactics to keep customers as long as they can

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35603141)

Well l am to beddy bye now so good night everybody and lets hope a miracle happens on judgement day.:sleeping::tired::waving::sleep:

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603144)

Hi, I am new to the forum, although I have read posts for many weeks.
Just thought I would let you know that I chatted to one of the employyes on the BT website, as follows:

We are now routing you to one of our chat team...
Welcome to BT, the most complete broadband provider. You are now connected with Elizabeth.
Dougie: I am currently with virgin and want BT sport, I imagine it will not be available on that platform?
Elizabeth: Unfortunately not at the moment
Dougie: But they are in talks at the moment - so I imagine I will have to wait and see?
Elizabeth: We do plan to introduce this but we do not have a date for this at the moment
Dougie: I understand - but is this likely to be sooner rather than later. I dont mind paying for it on Virgin?
Elizabeth: I unfortunately do not have any idea when it will be available at the moment

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603144)

Hi, I am new to the forum, although I have read posts for many weeks.
Just thought I would let you know that I chatted to one of the employyes on the BT website, as follows:

We are now routing you to one of our chat team...
Welcome to BT, the most complete broadband provider. You are now connected with Elizabeth.
Dougie: I am currently with virgin and want BT sport, I imagine it will not be available on that platform?
Elizabeth: Unfortunately not at the moment
Dougie: But they are in talks at the moment - so I imagine I will have to wait and see?
Elizabeth: We do plan to introduce this but we do not have a date for this at the moment
Dougie: I understand - but is this likely to be sooner rather than later. I dont mind paying for it on Virgin?
Elizabeth: I unfortunately do not have any idea when it will be available at the moment

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35603133)

My insider cant back him up.

I got an PM from them at 9.50pm.

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603148)

Thanks - good to be involved in all the speculation ;)

Originally Posted by Asian Channel (Post 35603149)

I would hate to be bomber tomorrow

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35603156)

Is anyone staying up to see what happens to the ESPN channels at the stroke of midnight?

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35603152)

The Coming Soon thread is 99% speculation, 1% confirmed channels :D

Originally Posted by Asian Channel (Post 35603149)

I would hate to be bomber tomorrow

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35603156)

Is anyone staying up to see what happens to the ESPN channels at the stroke of midnight?

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603131)

if BT don't want VM to have it nothing VM can do Howard mate just makes bt just like sky

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603161)

Yer agree bud but they should have at least found other channels to replace them,universal hd,sky Atlantic.in Ireland they have sky sports news hd Disney hd and there owned by the same bleedin company and we ain't even got them and what they doing with the money there saving from not paying or espn ???

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35603160)

I am - just eating my dinner right now.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35603156)

Is anyone staying up to see what happens to the ESPN channels at the stroke of midnight?

Originally Posted by Asian Channel (Post 35603164)

bt on sky is £12.00 sd £15.00 hd how does it work if you got multiroom do you have to pay per box or is per household ?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603165)

No I'm going to bt's/sky's welcoming virgin media's customer party it starts at the stroke of midnight ;)
I believe you can sign up while your there as well

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35603167)

Of course, the money saved from not paying for ESPN will probably cover any lost customers. From a business point of view, not adding Bt sport probably means reasonable sense.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603169)

Oh that's okay then glad to hear there not losing out like us customers :mad:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35603167)

Of course, the money saved from not paying for ESPN will probably cover any lost customers. From a business point of view, not adding Bt sport probably means reasonable sense.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603168)

and pay lot more for everything ;)

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35603167)

Of course, the money saved from not paying for ESPN will probably cover any lost customers. From a business point of view, not adding Bt sport probably means reasonable sense.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603168)

and pay lot more for everything ;)

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603177)

Been offered half price deal for 12 months from sky bud,move my sky hd box upstairs and give me a 2tb one downstairs multiroom free for 12 months and a £12 credit for 12 months to pay for bt sports.really not sure what to do at min,in contract with vm but can downgrade to rock bottom package to see out package,just gonna miss me TiVo :confused:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603170)

lets see if they give us anything first Howard mate

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603169)

Oh that's okay then glad to hear there not losing out like us customers :mad:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603179)

just see if VM gives us anything Howard they id understand you moving if that what you chose

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603180)

Really don't think we are getting anything bud,spoke to retentions earlier and they told me they have had a lot of cancellations today more than expected and expecting more tomorrow.surely they would have announced something if we were getting anything rather than see customers leave :confused:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35603181)

Its a fine balance though. They have to look at the whole customer base and not just the people who want x y and z.

This has been said a number of times - VM have been growing their customer base faster than Sky for a number of qtrs. even without Sky Atlantic. They will continue to grow their customer base without BT Sports.

So they have to make a shrewd calculation and if BT want more than VM' s calculation the VM will tell them to bugger off

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603177)

Been offered half price deal for 12 months from sky bud,move my sky hd box upstairs and give me a 2tb one downstairs multiroom free for 12 months and a £12 credit for 12 months to pay for bt sports.really not sure what to do at min,in contract with vm but can downgrade to rock bottom package to see out package,just gonna miss me TiVo :confused:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603183)

VM only announce on day of launch now Howard I know where your coming from and hoping VM give us something

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603188)

BT surely cant expect many Virgin customers moving to them. As their TV channels are very few with virtually no HD. Is it worth it for a years free BT sport ?

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603175)

:dunce:

yes from a business point of view, disappointing a ton of current customers and also ensuring no sports fan will ever sign up to their service again makes perfect sense :dunce:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603191)

Nice to see the decent crew on tonight and not the clowns,nice to see the sky boys (muppetman/chad) not taking the mick out of us poor vm customers also

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Nope think sky are gonna end up being the winners out of this one :erm:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35603142)

Exactly we have seen this before . They are trying to keep customers hanging on until 17th then nothing.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603191)

Nice to see the decent crew on tonight and not the clowns,nice to see the sky boys (muppetman/chad) not taking the mick out of us poor vm customers also

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Nope think sky are gonna end up being the winners out of this one :erm:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35603195)

People just won't be leaving in their droves over this. Let's take as an example the person most desperate to get the new Bt channels - you. You're not leaving, but instead are hooking up your old Sky box. From Virgin's point of view they keep you as a customer and save the money they were paying ESPN out of your monthly subs. So Virgin are quids in. Like I say, from a business point of view, this probably make sense - people like you are the reason why.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603191)

Nice to see the decent crew on tonight and not the clowns,nice to see the sky boys (muppetman/chad) not taking the mick out of us poor vm customers also

---------- Post added at 22:33 ---------- Previous post was at 22:32 ----------



Nope think sky are gonna end up being the winners out of this one :erm:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603161)

Yer agree bud but they should have at least found other channels to replace them,universal hd,sky Atlantic.in Ireland they have sky sports news hd Disney hd and there owned by the same bleedin company and we ain't even got them and what they doing with the money there saving from not paying for espn ???

Originally Posted by Islandman (Post 35603203)

Are you serious? The channels we have lost are sports channels that included the EPL. Sky Atlantic, Unversal HD, etc cannot possibly replace them. As for Disney HD, and SSN HD, who cares? VM never had them, so no loss.

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35603204)

Does anyone know what time during the night do VM add/remove channels?

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603196)

But is BT sport HD worth an extra £15 a month - dont think so

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35603204)

Does anyone know what time during the night do VM add/remove channels?

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35603204)

Does anyone know what time during the night do VM add/remove channels?

Originally Posted by Islandman (Post 35603203)

Are you serious? The channels we have lost are sports channels that included the EPL. Sky Atlantic, Unversal HD, etc cannot possibly replace them. As for Disney HD, and SSN HD, who cares? VM never had them, so no loss.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603205)

hear hear. but i'll warn you you are wasting your time on these lot. they aren't sports fans, and they detest football. they don't get it. it's a pointless crusade.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603205)

hear hear. but i'll warn you you are wasting your time on these lot. they aren't sports fans, and they detest football. they don't get it. it's a pointless crusade.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603211)

Maybe not everybody choice but at least it would be something to replace and justify keeping xl pack at same price

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603205)

hear hear. but i'll warn you you are wasting your time on these lot. they aren't sports fans, and they detest football. they don't get it. it's a pointless crusade.

Originally Posted by Islandman (Post 35603213)

Regrettably, I suspect you're right. What is difficult to understand is that if they're not sports fans, why are they bleating so much about th loss of the ESPN channels?

Originally Posted by Islandman (Post 35603213)

Regrettably, I suspect you're right. What is difficult to understand is that if they're not sports fans, why are they bleating so much about th loss of the ESPN channels?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35603211)

Maybe not everybody choice but at least it would be something to replace and justify keeping xl pack at same price

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35603222)

60 mins till VM customers loose ESPN :(

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603218)

I am a big football fan, but will not pay £15 for BT sports. Especially for the limited games they have.

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35603216)

As a number of members have already observed a lot of us are sports fans and don't detest football, we just have a more realistic attitude to how and when (and at what cost) VM may be able to obtain BT Sports - VM aren't in the business of getting any channel at any price just because a vociferous minority want it, they are in the business of making a profit and will drive for the best deal they can, if they can't get it at the right price for them then you won't get it however much you moan.

Originally Posted by Asian Channel (Post 35603091)

This is from my insider in Manchester. (C) 2013 Asian Channel

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35603222)

60 mins till VM customers loose ESPN :(

Originally Posted by Islandman (Post 35603213)

Regrettably, I suspect you're right. What is difficult to understand is that if they're not sports fans, why are they bleating so much about th loss of the ESPN channels?

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603215)

again with the same bizarre, bewildering logic. people don't want any old bollox just to say they've 'replaced'. they want their live Premier League, they want their Moto GP, and they want their UFC :banghead:

Originally Posted by city3000 (Post 35603227)

I agree, for me they have the worst time slot of the weekend aswell. No chance I would pay for the channel when Sky Sports already show so many games.

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35603231)

Financially Virgin will be hit hard if they don't get BT sports, combined with no reduction in XL price they have made a lot of people very angry. If they don't pull this off there will be many leaving.

Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35603226)

Or an hour until your late night hat supper!

;)

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35603230)

will you lose them till bt sports starts

Originally Posted by Islandman (Post 35603228)

So do a deal and let us know the price. We can then make a personal choice on whether, or not, it represents value for money.

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603232)

Just join BT then. Let me know how it is in 12 months when your bills shoot up ?

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35603235)

Wont ever happen



I think you will find that we dont as they are still broadcasting :D

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603236)

Agreed.

Also I question anyone who says they're an avid sports fan but refuses to pay for it. Can't be that big a fan then if you are willing to miss your team in action. An avid fan of something does not miss his team/player/artist in action and would not see the lack of BT Sport, with some of the excellent content they've aquired, as acceptable. the end.

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603232)

Just join BT then. Let me know how it is in 12 months when your bills shoot up ?

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35603234)

How many is a lot and how many will be leaving?

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603236)

Agreed.

Also I question anyone who says they're an avid sports fan but refuses to pay for it. Can't be that big a fan then if you are willing to miss your team in action. An avid fan of something does not miss his team/player/artist in action and would not see the lack of BT Sport, with some of the excellent content they've aquired, as acceptable. the end.

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35603240)

Not everyone can afford to pay for all of this premium content. I think it's a bit over the top to suggest that anyone that doesn't shell out for both a Sky Sports and BT Sport subscription isn't a "true" fan.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35603242)

I'm not talking about myself ffs, I don't only think of myself. I've mentioned 10 times that I have sky freesat as well as virgin. I'm sorted. i'm getting it. albeit at an inconvenience. I still think it's outrageous if virgin don't do a deal.

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603243)

Cant see many leaving, Virgin are not stupid:
Would you join BT, just for one EPL game per week (and very little else in their TV schedules)?
Would you join Sky and pay an extra £15 per month (and inferior broadband)?
It is not just all about BT sport :confused:

Originally Posted by dougiemacc (Post 35603243)

Cant see many leaving, Virgin are not stupid:
Would you join BT, just for one EPL game per week (and very little else in their TV schedules)?
Would you join Sky and pay an extra £15 per month (and inferior broadband)?
It is not just all about BT sport :confused:

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 35603246)

Funny how competition over content eventually costs the customer more to watch it. Well done ofcom

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35603249)

More than just 1 EPL a week as there is rugby, US Sports, Tennis and MMA, Moto GP and more so plenty to fill there TV schedules