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My bold.

Pantsdown hasn’t actually said anything of any note here. And even what he did say did not necessarily relate to the spin in the article.

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Actually the prof’s verbosity seemed to me to be a painfully self conscious attempt to avoid being tarred a racist. Nobody wants to stick their head above the parapet and suggest that the Indian variant is doing so well because it has a foothold amongst large extended households that are simultaneously less willing to adhere to the public health advice and more likely to refuse to book their vaccination appointment. It’s less awkward to assume its rapid spread is entirely down to its enhanced transmissibility until data makes that assumption untenable.

Anyway, time will tell.

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Except of course any variant could do the same among groups who aren’t complying if it was truly, entirely down to a select few groups not adhering to rules that have been in place since Christmas.

Boris didn’t go on telly at 5pm on a Friday last week over a handful of immigrants in big households working in the cash economy.

Time will tell indeed.

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No, Chris is right in what he's said and nobody publically want's to say it out of fear of being accused of raciam.
It is being spread in the communities who have not been following guidelines and have not taken up vaccination. The media are however spinning it as deprived areas rather than uneducated ones.

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Deprivation and education aren’t mutually exclusive.

The dog whistle stops people asking about why India didn’t go on the red list with Pakistan doesn’t it though.

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At least they’re volunteering to join the “herd”. After all nobody really gets ill.

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Once the vaccines have been tweaked a Punjab in the arm will sort it out ;)

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It does depend on how you pitch it. If companies did a risk assessment under Health and Safety legislation and found that COVID vaccination was a good way to protect its' employees from COVID, then I would doubt a new contract would be needed. An employers obligation to provide a safe environment is implied.

That said, it's all moot - I can't see this happening. I work for a healthcare company and the words are that vaccination is 'strongly recommended' for all employees but that's it

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I think you have to be careful to separate genetics from socio-economic factors. If you are unable to work from home, live in a house of multiple occupancy and/or generations, or work in healthcare, your risk of infection is correspondingly higher. All of these tend to skew towards minorities being more severely affected.

The ONS did some good numbers on this - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...d19/2020-12-14

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Let's hope it doesn't put anyone in a korma.

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I’m posing the question. The government says it’s being guided by the figures. I am pointing out that hospital admissions are flat. Why? The vaccines.

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I thought you were referring to Boris! I see you were actually referring to the half full glass scientist! I guess that figures.

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Or the fact people don't get hospitalised immediately upon testing positive

It helps to pay attention and play the ball, not the man.

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physician, heal thyself

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Nor will they if they are vaccinated. Something you don’t appear to have grasped. Glad to have been of help.

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Do you know how ridiculous that sounds, coming from you? It is your modus operandi to attack the person and ignore the point being made. Particularly when you don’t have a credible argument.