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Mick 17-12-2018 09:39
Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35975719)
:dunce::dunce:
Come on now DJ - while I said the use of this smiley is allowed - don't push your luck with it's use by continuously provoking members with it. Thanks.

papa smurf 17-12-2018 09:39
Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35975713)
So if the British people vote to overturn the previous vote of the British people, the British people are breaking the faith of the British people?
I see what your saying
If the losers of the referendum cannot accept the result there will have to be a losers vote to give them[the losers] the opportunity to have their own way, presumably because it's unfair that they are losers because they were never told they could be losers before the referendum ,but now they are losers democracy needs a tweak to turn the losers into winners.

Mick 17-12-2018 09:41
Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35975723)
So there’s no way of quantifying how many of the 17.4 million were swayed by any of the campaigns. It’s also a betrayal of everyone in this country regardless of how they voted, or even if they voted, to crash out for ideological reasons and not leave in a controlled manner.

I’d prefer to take five years and get it right than three further months and get it massively wrong. That said, for those it was about immigration it’s only a date they see as a line in the sand.
Crashing out or cliff edge, is a terminology I do not accept would happen, it's Remain, fear mongering rubbish.

Mr K 17-12-2018 09:47
Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35975726)
Crashing out or cliff edge, is a terminology I do not accept would happen, it's Remain, fear mongering rubbish.
you might not accept it but 66 million might think otherwise. Unless you're planning a Dictatorship ;)

Mick 17-12-2018 09:53
Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35975727)
you might not accept it but 66 million might think otherwise. Unless you're planning a Dictatorship ;)
A dictatorship is exactly where we are heading if we do not enact the first result - Parliament asked the people in 2016 and we told them we wanted to leave the EU and that is what a true democracy is, we do not keep asking the same question over and over because the losers of the first result did not like it.

jfman 17-12-2018 10:02
Re: Brexit
 
I think crashing is the most appropriate word. It suggests uncontrolled, which is exactly what this is.

If we triggered a50 two years ago and said “right chaps, two years to prepare for WTO terms” I’d probably not use the word crash as at least it could be deemed intentional.

Sephiroth 17-12-2018 10:13
Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35975733)
I think crashing is the most appropriate word. It suggests uncontrolled, which is exactly what this is.

If we triggered a50 two years ago and said “right chaps, two years to prepare for WTO terms” I’d probably not use the word crash as at least it could be deemed intentional.
A gross betrayal of trust by TM. NO DEAL should have been our starting position with planning in hand.

djfunkdup 17-12-2018 10:14
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35975724)
Come on now DJ - while I said the use of this smiley is allowed - don't push your luck with it's use by continuously provoking members with it. Thanks.
When the deluded traitors talk about having new votes to counteract the initial democratic vote then in my camp that = :dunce: There is nothing to say to them except that and only that.There is no telling them there ain't going to be another vote yet they bleat on and on and on and on.

I really am thankful that i'm chilled over this entire Brexit situation.The ramainers are tense,paranoid,deluded and almost getting to the stage they are ready to throw themselves in front of the Brexit Express to derail it,But guess what,it's got a snow plough on the front of it and its just going to plough right through them on it's way home.Not long to go now and Santa is nearly here as well :p::p::p:

Mick 17-12-2018 10:15
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35975733)
I think crashing is the most appropriate word. It suggests uncontrolled, which is exactly what this is.

If we triggered a50 two years ago and said “right chaps, two years to prepare for WTO terms” I’d probably not use the word crash as at least it could be deemed intentional.
There is such a thing called controlled exit, with no deal. We save £39 Billion on day one. Like the Weatherspoons boss, Tim Martin said the other day at a Leave means Leave rally, "Whenever I wake up in the morning, and you probably think the same. Being £39 Billion better off is a great start to the day."

About 4 minutes in on his speech in this video.

Stephen 17-12-2018 10:34
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35975736)
When the deluded traitors talk about having new votes to counteract the initial democratic vote then in my camp that = :dunce: There is nothing to say to them except that and only that.There is no telling them there ain't going to be another vote yet they bleat on and on and on and on.

I really am thankful that i'm chilled over this entire Brexit situation.The ramainers are tense,paranoid,deluded and almost getting to the stage they are ready to throw themselves in front of the Brexit Express to derail it,But guess what,it's got a snow plough on the front of it and its just going to plough right through them on it's way home.Not long to go now and Santa is nearly here as well :p::p::p:
No one is a traitor!

Tell that to the Scottish folk who are still demanding a new Indy Ref as they don't accept that NO won. They constantly gather and march and keep raising the issue. They are just an annoyance.

This while similar is slightly different and the leave vote won and they had 2 years to plan this out and here we are 3 months to go and there is still not a decent strategy or plan in place. Hence why so many of tyhe public and MP etv think there should be a final vote.

Hugh 17-12-2018 10:42
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35975725)
I see what your saying
If the losers of the referendum cannot accept the result there will have to be a losers vote to give them[the losers] the opportunity to have their own way, presumably because it's unfair that they are losers because they were never told they could be losers before the referendum ,but now they are losers democracy needs a tweak to turn the losers into winners.
If that’s the will of the British voters...

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35975737)
There is such a thing called controlled exit, with no deal. We save £39 Billion on day one. Like the Weatherspoons boss, Tim Martin said the other day at a Leave means Leave rally, "Whenever I wake up in the morning, and you probably think the same. Being £39 Billion better off is a great start to the day."

About 4 minutes in on his speech in this video.
If we break the terms of a previous legally binding under International Law treaty, why would anyone trust us in a new one?

https://www.businessinsider.com/brex...18-4?r=UK&IR=T [auote]

pip08456 17-12-2018 10:58
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35975739)
If that’s the will of the British voters...

---------- Post added at 10:42 ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 ----------


If we break the terms of a previous legally binding under International Law treaty, why would anyone trust us in a new one?

https://www.businessinsider.com/brex...18-4?r=UK&IR=T [auote]
If you actually took the time to read the article instead of just the headline it would be quite clear to you that the £39 billion payment is not legally binding at this moment in time.

papa smurf 17-12-2018 11:00
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35975739)
If that’s the will of the British voters...
It's the will of some losers not the will of the people ,most of the remain camp have accepted defeat as part of the democratic process ,it's a shame the few will not give democracy a try.

Mick 17-12-2018 11:36
Re: Brexit
 
Another personal post deleted - The next person to insult - degrade - get personal - will be added to Paul's Christmas Holiday list. Stop calling each other - stop arguing with each other - stop provoking each other. This is the absolute last warning, if some people suddenly discover why they cannot post, congratulations, you've hit Paul's list.

jfman 17-12-2018 11:57
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35975745)
It's the will of some losers not the will of the people ,most of the remain camp have accepted defeat as part of the democratic process ,it's a shame the few will not give democracy a try.
If any of that stands up leave will win at a canter. In which case I don’t know what everyone is worried about.


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