Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

No Bregrets, Andrew. Just regrets that the government is total crap.

If the blob causes Braverman to resign, then I'll have to leave the Conservative Party.

I think Sunak wants her to hang around a bit longer so she can carry the can for the all-time highest number of legal migrants, due for announcement this week with suggestions it's 700k-800k people. That being said I think we're doing the right thing for Hong Kongers and Ukranians but we need to build enough housing for them!

Hugh	22-05-2023 22:18

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36152445)

No Bregrets, Andrew. Just regrets that the government is total crap.

If the blob causes Braverman to resign, then I'll have to leave the Conservative Party.

It’s always someone else’s fault…

Sephiroth

23-05-2023 07:20

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36152468)

It’s always someone else’s fault…

What is?

TheDaddy

23-05-2023 13:46

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Surfers turned up in Scarborough to protest about sewage pollution and were told not to go in the sea after because of...... sewage pollution :(

1andrew1

23-05-2023 14:20

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36152482)

What is?

I assume policy and personal failure.

Too many unlawful immigrants - fault of the EU for signing up to an agreement that stopped the UK sending asylum seekers back to the EU country they had come from.
Lack of Brexit opportunities - fault of Remainer civil servants.
Braverman potentially resigns for breaking ministerial code - fault of the blob.

Sephiroth

23-05-2023 14:27

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Daddy’s last two bullets are spot on.

Hugh	23-05-2023 17:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36152468)

It’s always someone else’s fault…

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36152482)

What is?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36152510)

I assume policy and personal failure.

Too many unlawful immigrants - fault of the EU for signing up to an agreement that stopped the UK sending asylum seekers back to the EU country they had come from.
Lack of Brexit opportunities - fault of Remainer civil servants.
Braverman potentially resigns for breaking ministerial code - fault of the blob.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36152511)

Daddy’s last two bullets are spot on.

Ms NTL

23-05-2023 17:42

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36152509)

Surfers turned up in Scarborough to protest about sewage pollution and were told not to go in the sea after because of...... sewage pollution :(

Reasonable :D

ianch99

23-05-2023 19:39

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36152510)

I assume policy and personal failure.

Too many unlawful immigrants - fault of the EU for signing up to an agreement that stopped the UK sending asylum seekers back to the EU country they had come from.
Lack of Brexit opportunities - fault of Remainer civil servants.
Braverman potentially resigns for breaking ministerial code - fault of the blob.

The lack of opportunities is not the fault of the people who might be asked to implement them had they existed

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36152463)

Ukraine should be separated from Hong Kong. I am confident that the vast majority of Ukrainians would go home when the war is over.

As for Hong Kong, you could argue the case for allowing 100,000 of migrants in is less compelling given the fact they are not fleeing a situation where their lives are at risk. Very few I suspect plan to return to Hong Kong.

What is telling, and this is at the heart of the small boats faux-outrage, is that no one is angry at the people arriving from HK and the increased demand on Infra as a result.

Sephiroth

23-05-2023 21:10

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Are they putting up HK immigrants in £6m/day hotels?

1andrew1

23-05-2023 21:34

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36152534)

The lack of opportunities is not the fault of the people who might be asked to implement them had they existed.

You just need to believe more. I prescribe a trip to Wokeingham and night on the town with Old Boy and Seph! :D

ianch99

24-05-2023 00:03

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36152545)

Are they putting up HK immigrants in £6m/day hotels?

They would be if their paperwork was deliberately delayed to make people angry :)

Hugh	24-05-2023 15:24

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Excellent news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65698529

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Jaguar Land Rover-owner to pick UK over Spain for giant car battery plant

The UK is set to win a battle with Spain to host a multi-billion-pound electric car battery plant in Somerset, the BBC understands

The boss of Jaguar Land Rover-owner Tata is expected to fly to London next week to finalise the deal.

Some in the car industry have described the plant as the most significant investment in UK automotive since Nissan came to Britain in the 1980s.

Tata's chairman is scheduled to meet the prime minister mid-next week.

Sources familiar with the matter say that although the deal has yet to be signed, engagement has moved from negotiations to drafting and choreography of how the landmark agreement will be presented.

Up to 9,000 jobs would be created at the Bridgwater site, close to the M5.

The UK government has acknowledged the urgent need for electric vehicle battery manufacturing in the UK to secure the future of the car industry.

The country's automotive sector employs up to 800,000 people directly and in the supply chain.

When pressed on the subject last week, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt told the BBC to "watch this space".

ianch99

24-05-2023 15:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36152611)

Excellent news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65698529

Due in no small part to:

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Along with additional energy discounts, it will bring the total incentive package to Tata close to £800m.

What is interesting is that (from the same article):

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Some industry insiders hope that the Tata battery investment will open the door to further battery investments in the UK, which currently only has one plant in operation next to Nissan's Sunderland factory, and one barely on the drawing board in Northumberland.

By contrast the EU has 35 plants open, under construction or planned.

Chris

24-05-2023 15:59

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36152616)

Due in no small part to:

Makes a refreshing change. Previously, our net contributions to the EU were used, amongst other things, to incentivise motor manufacturers to set up in Eastern Europe, to our own disadvantage.

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What is interesting is that (from the same article):

35 built/building/planned is an average of 1.2 plants per member state. Which makes 2 in the UK above average. ;)

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