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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35975452)

Europe couldn't pay me £100 to go there.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35975454)

In French, I translate the above paragraph into "non". :D

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No need to - you're currently in Europe. :D

NO, I'm in Great Britian/England/UK, I'm an English Brit.

Nowhere does that say European.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35975539)

That is manifestly absurd - MPs ran on Mandates and have these so called Manifestos that were committed to leave the EU. Go figure. :rolleyes:

all parties ignore manifesto commitments Mick not the first time not be last time

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35975541)

all parties ignore manifesto commitments Mick not the first time not be last time

That makes the UK politicians to be as perfidious as Varadkar! That's no reason not to honour the Referendum result.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35975542)

That makes the UK politicians to be as perfidious as Varadkar! That's no reason not to honour the Referendum result.

never said it was

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35975535)

Brexit has not flaming well happened yet, so how the hell can it be a mess? :rolleyes:
Snip..

It's a mess as it's meant to be happening in the very near future and there is still no deal in place nor does anyone actually have a clue what's happening.

The process of Brexit and the possible outcome is in a total mess.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35975541)

all parties ignore manifesto commitments Mick not the first time not be last time

Spoken like a true selfish person. So it's ok to not commit to election pledges and basically con the electorate, after MPs are elected because it suits your Anti-Brexit agenda?

Pathetic. :rolleyes:

You still have not answered that small detail on if a second referendum is called, who will pacify all the leave voters of the massive betrayal, it's pure nativity to think that us Brexiteers will just accept this level of a illegitimate 2nd referendum?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35975526)

It is undemocratic to return to a referendum question because the losers don't like the original result. This is particularly so because the EU has engineered this outcome due to the non-existent negotiating abilities of TM.

We should now leave on a no-deal basis unless the EU changes its stand at the last hour.

You Remainers are trying to use democracy to usurp democracy. I get that.

It's nothing to do with who won or lost. It's that the parties in charge of sorting the thing out haven't got a clue.

No one is engineering anything.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
That makes the UK politicians to be as perfidious as Varadkar! That's no reason not to honour the Referendum result.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35975544)

never said it was

So is it your position that the Referendum result should be honoured?

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35975545)

The process of Brexit and the possible outcome is in a total mess.

Lightly moistened toilet tissues made with Jasmine fragrance and a touch of silk.

https://www.boots.com/andrex-supreme...B&gclsrc=aw.ds :D:D

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35975546)

Mick I am just pointing out lots of commitments in manifestos aint honoured they always con people and no I have not called for a second referendum but even Nigel Farage is expecting one now

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35975550)

Mick I am just pointing out lots of commitments in manifestos aint honoured they always con people and no I have not called for a second referendum

So we agree MPs can be con artists and they putting their own personal beliefs above the peoples?

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35975550)

Mick I am just pointing out lots of commitments in manifestos aint honoured they always con people and no I have not called for a second referendum but even Nigel Farage is expecting one now

Nigel Farage has never spoke for me.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35975529)

You still can’t back up your claim that food will be 50% more expensive in a no deal Brexit.

So until you do, or accept that what you posted was project fear bollocks, anything you post will be treated with the upmost cynicism.

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And just what are you doing?

The irony is simply eyewatering.

Oh no! How will I sleep at night?*

*very easily ;)

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35975548)

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
That makes the UK politicians to be as perfidious as Varadkar! That's no reason not to honour the Referendum result.

[COLOR="Blue"]So is it your position that the Referendum result should be honoured?

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yes never said it shouldn't be what the discussion is what kind of deal we get a no deal brexit will be worse of all worlds

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35975529)

You still can’t back up your claim that food will be 50% more expensive in a no deal Brexit.

So until you do, or accept that what you posted was project fear bollocks, anything you post will be treated with the upmost cynicism.

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And just what are you doing?

The irony is simply eyewatering.

I am not transposing anything. I am not trying to claim all Remain voters voted Remain for the same reasons. Some may want closer integration, some may want the current level and some may want changes to allow more autonomy with the Union.

You see (well maybe you don't) that people have different levels of tolerance for the various positions.

You (and others) have this binary interpretation of what the 17.4 million people will accept. In the real world, some Leavers would not feel they voted for a Hard brexit with all the consequences it entails especially when the Leave campaign did not discuss the negative Hard Brexit scenario. Everything they told you was positive.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35975540)

NO, I'm in Great Britian/England/UK, I'm an English Brit.

Nowhere does that say European.

Sorry, you are in Europe and so you are a European ..

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35975546)

Spoken like a true selfish person. So it's ok to not commit to election pledges and basically con the electorate, after MPs are elected because it suits your Anti-Brexit agenda?

Pathetic. :rolleyes:

You still have not answered that small detail on if a second referendum is called, who will pacify all the leave voters of the massive betrayal, it's pure nativity to think that us Brexiteers will just accept this level of a illegitimate 2nd referendum?

I see we're feeling the spirit of Christmas, good will to all men and all that :) I am waiting to see what a pure nativity is, maybe Santa will bring us one in the New Year?

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35975560)

Sorry, you are in Europe and so you are a European ..

He can choose to revoke his European Status if he likes, just like I revoke my EU Citizenship, mainly because I don't want to be associated with a dictatorial corrupt entity AKA the EU, he is British first, everything after that is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by ianch99

I see we're feeling the spirit of Christmas, good will to all men and all that :) I am waiting to see what a pure nativity is, maybe Santa will bring us one in the New Year?

Oooh looks like I upset the CF Spelling Policeman, you knew which word I meant.