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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

"Let’s wait for the results of the independent inquiry" (which are due by the end of next week).

So independent that the findings are being briefed to the papers.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1642119388

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/stat...061031950?s=12

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36109390)

Now your desperation is making you perverse.

No desperation on my part. I'm not the lone defender of Johnson's partying on this thread.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36109390)

It depends on your narrative, jfman.

It literally doesn’t. There’s one forum member, maybe a second at a push, spinning a narrative here.

If you care to address my post in full I’ve quoted it below. Otherwise I’ll leave you to provide the late night comedy.

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Originally Posted by jfman

I’m intrigued by how often emotive terminology comes out.

“Hate” quite frequently in relation to Johnson. As if it’s impossible that, devoid of emotion, anyone has simply reached the conclusion that he’s exceeded his usefulness (if indeed, he ever had any at all).

He’s not a Conservative in any traditional sense. His unification of the party related to one issue, and one only. One that he seized the opportunity of after famously penning two articles such was his lack of conviction for either side of the argument.

A populist is only useful to the extent they remain popular. And the mask has well and truly slipped

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Here are the actual "Sue Gray" terms of reference:

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Investigations into staff gatherings in No10 Downing Street and the
Department for Education

The Prime Minister has asked the Cabinet Secretary to carry out investigations into:

● allegations made of a gathering in No10 Downing Street on 27 November 2020;
● a gathering at the Department for Education on 10 December 2020; and
● allegations made of a gathering in No10 Downing Street on 18 December 2020.

Where there are credible allegations relating to other gatherings, these may be investigated.

The primary purpose will be to establish swiftly a general understanding of the nature of the gatherings, including attendance, the setting and the purpose, with reference to adherence to the guidance in place at the time.
If required, the investigations will establish whether individual disciplinary action is warranted.

The work will be undertaken by officials in the Cabinet Office at the direction of the Cabinet Secretary, with support from the Government Legal Department.

The team will have access to all relevant records, and be able to speak to members of staff.

As with all internal investigations, if during the course of the work any evidence emerges of behaviour that is potentially a criminal offence, the matter will be referred to the police and the Cabinet Office’s work may be paused. Matters relating to adherence to the law are properly for the police to investigate and the Cabinet Office will liaise with them as appropriate.

Any matters relating to the conduct of Ministers should follow the process set out in the Ministerial Code in the normal way.

All Ministers, Special Advisers, and civil servants will be expected to co-operate with the investigations.

Any staff with information relevant to the investigations should provide it to the Cabinet Office investigation team.

Pastoral care and support will be provided to all staff involved.

The findings of the investigations will be made public. Following the long-standing practice of successive administrations, any specific HR action against individuals will remain confidential.

http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedP...cember2021.pdf

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36109398)

No desperation on my part. I'm not the lone defender of Johnson's partying on this thread.

Now, now. In fairness to OB here Pierre made an appearance. Exhibiting brevity, so not the most robust defence, but his presence was noted.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36109397)

"Let’s wait for the results of the independent inquiry" (which are due by the end of next week).

So independent that the findings are being briefed to the papers.

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/stat...061031950?s=12

In what must be difficult days and nights for him, I need to give Old Boy some credit. :)

Whilst MPs have termed the inquiry independent, Old Boy hasn't stooped that low.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36109363)

Yes, instead of being on Her Majesty's Secret Service in West Berlin, Hugh could have been issuing parking tickets for the council in West Berkshire.

He clearly hasn't lived! :D

traffic warden sounds more plausible

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Takes on a whole new meaning...

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36109414)

traffic warden sounds more plausible

I think your personality is better suited to that role…

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Some sensible advice to Conservative MPs from the FT. Will Redwood et al listen?

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As they disperse around the country this weekend, Conservative MPs should listen hard to their constituents, and their conscience.

The power to unseat the prime minister is in their hands. Should they choose to stick with him, voters may conclude they have shown the same contempt for the public as their leader.

From The game is up for Boris Johnson
https://www.ft.com/content/105eb6d6-...d-8484198270b5

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After reading about the regular trundling of alcohol from the Co-op to No. 10 in suitcases, and doubtless other supermarkets, these CBEs make perfect sense. :D

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Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-op Group, and Roger Burnley, who stepped down as Asda chief executive earlier this year, will made CBEs after being honoured for services to the food supply chain, the Government said.

https://www.business-live.co.uk/ente...nised-22617671

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Love the sweating going on with Prince Andrew. :D

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36109401)

Now, now. In fairness to OB here Pierre made an appearance. Exhibiting brevity, so not the most robust defence, but his presence was noted.

To be fair, I don't think I ever excused or defended Boris.

I was just pointing out that I'm sure many that are, are doing it from a hypocritical stance.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Not even No. 10 is following the line to wait until the report is out!

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Number 10 has apologised to the Queen over two parties held in Downing Street on the eve of Prince Philip's funeral.

The prime minister's spokesperson said it was "deeply regrettable that this took place at a time of national mourning".

The events on 16 April 2021 - which according to the original report in The Telegraph included people drinking and dancing to music and one attendee being sent shopping with a suitcase to fill with bottles of wine - occurred the night before the Queen was forced to sit by herself at her husband's funeral at St George's Chapel in Windsor.

Earlier on Friday, the prime minister's former director of communications apologised "unreservedly" for one of the parties which was held to mark his departure from Downing Street.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...neral-12515732

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Wonder why No. 10 didn't wait for the outcome of the Sue Gray Enquiry?

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BBC News - Downing Street apologises to Queen over lockdown parties

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59997364