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papa smurf 23-02-2021 11:43

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36071707)
Disgusting! must be a California thing, it wouldn't happen in the bible belt.........

Live and let live ;)

Chris 23-02-2021 11:51

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36071707)
Disgusting! must be a California thing, it wouldn't happen in the bible belt.........

No, they prefer their cousins down there

Chris 24-02-2021 22:48

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36071593)
Don't know who these usual suspects are - and I thought we'd all been told not to use this term?

I'm hopeful as Stellantis has previously said the merger between PSA and FCA was not about closing plants. The UK is a big market for the company. Let's see how things develop.

As predicted (by me), a little more clarity on the Vauxhall Ellesmere Port situation shows it has naff-all to do with Brexit.

The issue is the UK government ban on new ICE-engine cars after 2030. This means for the factory to have a long-term future it must be re-tooled to produce entirely new electric vehicles, and the problem with electric vehicle manufacturing is the batteries. They’re big, they’re heavy and they’re difficult to transport. They’re actually covered by the Brexit trade deal for manufacture in the EU, transport to the UK for fitting in new cars and then re-export to EU markets, but the logistics make this largely moot. You can’t even put them through the channel tunnel for safety reasons.

The biggest question mark over the entire automotive industry in the UK is how quickly battery production can be scaled up, in factories within the UK, close enough to the vehicle assembly plants to mitigate the transport problems.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56190072

1andrew1 24-02-2021 23:01

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36071848)
As predicted (by me), a little more clarity on the Vauxhall Ellesmere Port situation shows it has naff-all to do with Brexit.

The issue is the UK government ban on new ICE-engine cars after 2030. This means for the factory to have a long-term future it must be re-tooled to produce entirely new electric vehicles, and the problem with electric vehicle manufacturing is the batteries. They’re big, they’re heavy and they’re difficult to transport. They’re actually covered by the Brexit trade deal for manufacture in the EU, transport to the UK for fitting in new cars and then re-export to EU markets, but the logistics make this largely moot. You can’t even put them through the channel tunnel for safety reasons.

The biggest question mark over the entire automotive industry in the UK is how quickly battery production can be scaled up, in factories within the UK, close enough to the vehicle assembly plants to mitigate the transport problems.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56190072

Yup, I said in #482, the proposed battery factory in Coventry gives me grounds for optimism.

It's wishful thinking not to see the Brexit connection - the uncertainty over a trade deal with the EU from 2016 until recently has prevented investment in UK battery manufacture.

1andrew1 25-02-2021 15:01

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
If anyone on the forum is between jobs, there are 700 people needed now in Cornwall. This is from the Daily Mail of all places!
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World's largest daffodil grower in Cornwall is forced to let fields of flowers ROT because there are not enough pickers available after Brexit
  • Varfell Farms in Penzance, Cornwall, is the largest daffodil grower in the world
  • They produces 500 million stems a year and need 700 workers to pick them
  • But they are heavily reliant on migrant worker and Brexit ended free movement
  • Fields of flowers are being left to rot as there are not enough pickers for harvest

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...=1490&ito=1490

papa smurf 25-02-2021 16:47

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36071941)
If anyone on the forum is between jobs, there are 700 people needed now in Cornwall. This is from the Daily Mail of all places!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...=1490&ito=1490

Apparently there is a pandemic raging atm, no one will risk there lives for a few poxy daffs ,not sure Eu citizens can get the required vaccines to enter the country for work due to eu oversight and arrogance :)

1andrew1 25-02-2021 16:54

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36071956)
Apparently there is a pandemic raging atm, no one will risk there lives for a few poxy daffs ,not sure Eu citizens can get the required vaccines to enter the country for work due to eu oversight and arrogance :)

Yup, even without Brexit I doubt people would be rushing across Europe for a seasonal job in the middle of a pandemic!

BenMcr 25-02-2021 17:18

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36071956)
Apparently there is a pandemic raging atm, no one will risk there lives for a few poxy daffs ,not sure Eu citizens can get the required vaccines to enter the country for work due to eu oversight and arrogance :)

Anyone UK citizen doing that work wouldn't qualify for a vaccine within the UK plan as far as I'm aware, and I'm also not aware of any country in the world prioritising cross-border work for vaccines.

Paul 25-02-2021 21:20

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36071941)
If anyone on the forum is between jobs, there are 700 people needed now in Cornwall. This is from the Daily Mail of all places!

I think what they mean is
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World's largest daffodil grower in Cornwall is forced to let fields of flowers ROT because there are not enough pickers available due to global pandemic.

1andrew1 25-02-2021 21:32

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36072022)
I think what they mean is

It's just bizarre the Daily Mail publishing the story on so many levels!

Mr K 25-02-2021 21:42

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36072028)
It's just bizarre the Daily Mail publishing the story on so many levels!

They are British daffodils so they need saving....

Wonder what it will be like when the Daily Fail realises Johnny Foreigner isn't queuing up to care for our increasingly elderly population. Or are Daffs more important ? Discuss.....

TheDaddy 25-02-2021 21:47

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36072033)
They are British daffodils so they need saving....

Wonder what it will be like when the Daily Fail realises Johnny Foreigner isn't queuing up to care for our increasingly elderly population. Or are Daffs more important ? Discuss.....

Bloody foreigners, not coming over here and picking our flowers, as for the elderly the government only cares about them every 4-5 years or so I guess like the foreigners, they don't care

pip08456 25-02-2021 23:27

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Are flower shops open?

Hugh 26-02-2021 09:00

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Supermarkets are, which is where we buy our daffs from.

1andrew1 26-02-2021 21:36

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Brexit: Northern Ireland halts construction of import inspection facilities

Other members of the coalition executive in Northern Ireland have called for an emergency meeting.

Uncertainty around the future of the Northern Ireland protocol has seen the construction of purpose-built inspection facilities at ports halted.

There will still be checks on agricultural and food products, but these will be carried out in existing buildings that have been repurposed for the post-Brexit task, the country's agriculture minister has said.

Gordon Lyons of the DUP said that recruitment of inspection staff for the new port facilities at places like Belfast and Larne had been stopped, and charges levied on traders bringing goods from Great Britain into Northern Ireland were also shelved.
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-no...ities-12229968


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