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The problem is both parties have splits in them as wide as a chasm..

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Which of course explains why Theresa May called that last General Election. She knew she would get a better chance of seeing Brexit through if she could increase her majority.

Shame the strategy failed in the end.

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That is because whoever advised her that this was the right strategy to use was quite clearly pretty clueless to put it bluntly as the British people are not as stupid as some would have you believe..

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It’s because it wasn’t what the public wanted!

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Can you actually prove that the young do that?

May got a poor result because around half the country don’t want Brexit at all. That’s a precarious electoral position to be in if you are seeking a resounding mandate.

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But it was the right strategy! What did it for her was the confusion over funding relating to care for the elderly, which spooked a lot of traditional Conservative voters, coupled with the surprising popularity at the time with Jeremy Corbyn.

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It wasn’t really confusion over funding. The party came up with one of its most progressive policies ever and their voters said no. Capitalists in life wanting a socialist death.

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So it’s anecdotal evidence.

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If it was the right strategy then we would not be where we are standing now with the constant internecine warfare in the governing party which could result in Theresa May having to face a delegation from the 1922 Committee in these coming weeks.

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Give over, it is implicit in the term of no longer being in the European Union. Is a party’s manifesto on the ballot paper?

No longer being a member of the EU meant.

Exiting the single market,
Exiting the customs union,
Exiting the four freedoms associated with the single market
No longer being subject to ECJ

The above is what was put to British people, everything since the result has been obfuscate the above.

And people trying to be clever and say (Whiney voice) “it wasn’t on the ballot paper”. We it was.

All this talk in the last two years saying that the type of Brexit wasn’t on the ballot paper has Just been a smokescreen by the MPs to stop Brexit, and guess what, they may do.

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Was that on the ballot paper?

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Strange how Labour were against it then?

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She’s would have needed a majority large enough to out vote the ERG and all the other parties, bar a few Labour Brexiteers, those kind of numbers were never possible.

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I don’t need to give over anything. There’s no need to be disrespectful simply because you are wrong. Also, it’s impossible to articulate a whiney voice in text alone, it’s a ridiculous notion to suggest otherwise.

Many countries outside the European Union have a varying range of relationships with the trading bloc.

You are attributing what you want from Brexit from a definition that exists in your head only in the desperate hope that’s what it will look like. The good news is that it will not happen because there’s no mandate or political will for it.

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With all due respect, that’s bollocks.

It was clear to everyone that the Brexit on offer at the referendum was a so called Hard Brexit. If you didn’t understand that...well.

It was only after the result that Nick Clegg coined the terms Hard and Soft Brexit. He knew what was voted on was a Hard Brexit and being the Europhile he is he immediately started the obfuscation process.