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I am scared that Trump is going to win.

If he does I have lost all faith in America, and I'm convinced he will start a new Cold War with Russia, if nor far far worse.

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Hillary may be no angel but sh is the best of two evils.

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Despite the fact that she's quite likely to start a hot war with the Russians in Syria?

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Did you pay attention to the debates?

Did you see the accusations crooked Hillary laid bare at the Russians, Trump declared he would prefer to remain friends with Russia. So I think if any candidate will lead us in to war with Russia, it will be her.

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And? :dozey:

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That can only be believed if you follow the biased news reporting that put's her in a positive light than actually exists.

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We're already in a sort of Cold War with Russia. Last thing we need to do though is appease Putin. NATO especially must be protected, its shameful to abandon Eastern Europe.

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Whose abandoning it ?

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I simply do not agree with that Chris at all, for a start, the voter population, in the US is a LOT bigger than the Scottish Referendum for Independence in 2014.

While I said followers and support for Trump on Twitter is greater than Hillary's, it is also the same on Facebook, you cannot ignore these indicators.

I got the above posts, comments and feedback from Facebook off Hillary's own Official page. She has about 4 million less people following her than Trump. Whenever there is live broadcasts, Trump attracts huge audiences compared to Hillary.

You cannot ignore that Hillary struggles to fill her venues, while Trump's is always bursting to full with people still queuing outside at ALL his rallies and he holds more rallies than she does, because bless her, she needs to rest due to her tiredness levels.

And this talk from a Veteran, who says of larger queues than normal on the first early voting day, I strongly doubt this voter enthusiasm is for her.

I am telling you, he has this election bagged, he is the protest vote whether he is liked or not and I think Trump will be the 45th President of the United States.

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I see Trump want to end ObamaCare, thus ending free health care to the needy.

But what the Multi billionaire care.

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LOL Free, universal healthcare does not exist in America.

Obamacare or (PPACA) Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, most certainly is not free. It's not like the NHS is here, where you go to see a doctor, or go to hospital, get treated and don't pay anything.

In America, you need health insurance because if you get ill and what not and receive treatment, you have to pay for it, but health insurance normally covers this.

In a Nutshell, the Affordable Care Act in America, does the following:-

• Offering Americans a number of new benefits, rights, and protections in regards to their healthcare
  
• Setting up a Health Insurance Marketplace (HealthCare.Gov) where Americans can purchase federally regulated and subsidized Health Insurance during open enrollment.
  
• Expanding Medicaid to all adults in many states.
  
• Improving Medicare for seniors and those with long-term disabilities.
  
• Expanding employer coverage to millions of employees.
  
• Requiring most people to have coverage each month from 2014 in order to get an exemption, or pay a fee.
  
• And introducing new taxes and tax breaks, among other provisions.

Source: http://obamacarefacts.com/whatis-obamacare/

Those on the poverty line, still have to pay it but they get help to do so via a range of benefits. If people don't pay it, a fee is still taken by the IRS (US Equivalent to UK's HMRC) So call it a kind of Tax if you want.

So when Trump talks about ending Obamacare, he is talking about repealing the act, because the Affordable care Act (but not really), has caused massive hikes in fees and costs for it. People have seen, year on year rise on it and the rises are huge this year, we would see large scale riots if they introduced something like that over here. You talking of four figure type sums and these are monthly upfront costs, you are talking thousands of dollars per month

So this is what Trump means when he says he wants to get rid of it.

Crooked Hillary wants to reform it, which is just another way of saying, she will continue where Obama left off, if she gets in office.

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Let's get real here - neither Trump nor Clinton are poor. Far from it. IMHO Trump's appeal is largely due to the loathing of many US citizens for establishment figures like Clinton, Bush etc. who come from the right families and have had the odds stacked up in their favour. It's a bit like the rise of UKIP here. People may see the party's current issues and Farage's departure as terminal but what they fail to see is the huge animosity towards the traditional parties that's been allowed to fester and grow within large sections of society which is what led to UKIP's popularity. Trump, like UKIP/Farage, is a symptom of what's gone wrong over decades and unless things change that anti-establishment sentiment will continue to grow and if Trump doesn't get in this time it'll be someone similar next time.

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We'll see what happens in two weeks. The race really has hit a lull two weeks out, not seen this before. Trump is, maybe, slowly gaining some ground. A poll has him up +2 in Florida (although another one had Clinton up +3) and gaining in New Hampshire being +4 ahead. The other polls seem stable. Nothing is changing. Still a number of undecided voters though and if nearly all of them went Trump it's neck-and-neck. Obviously that's very unlikely but if a signifiant number did then we would be within 'Brexit error' margins.

Otherwise boring.

I did hear something interesting the other day though. Every 4 years the number of minority voters in America take up 2% more of the electorate as a whole. It's why states like North Carolina went Obama and why it's a toss-up state now. At the same time we're seeing a Brexit like split between those without college-degrees and those with them. Normally there wasn't a big difference in American politics between these two groups (all other factors being the same obviously) but this election those without having 'bigly' to Trump whilst those with them are moving to Clinton. Finally we also have liberals moving down South and changing the demographics of some of those states, it's why Colorado is now a blue state and maybe Arizona soon (although that's also related to the first point).

So what would happen in 2020? Let's say Clinton does win. Who do the Republicans get to run and against her? Can they change to deal with the fact the electorate is changing or will their base prevent them from doing so?

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I was writing my post as you were posting that but my last part asks this question too. :D

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If she got in and that is a big if, because I am really doubting her real popularity here, going off the rallies and just all the pure interest that is being shown towards Trump on absolutely everything.

But if she got in, I doubt she would make it to 2020, let alone any of the rest of us to see 2020, when we potentially go to WW3 with Russia, thanks to her.

But even without that to contend with, we have her dodgy track record, I'd say she is looking at being impeached.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac..._United_States

Hold on a second, didn't a Wikileaks revelation this last week or so say the DNC or her campaign (bribed DNC party members) to incite violence at Trump rallies ?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...violence-trump

Crooked Hillary should come under this Impeachment paragraph for sure. She should not even be running for President but this has already been covered.

Wikipedia is our friend. (Wikileaks is not hers :rofl: )

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'Crooked' Hillary - are you in Primary School, parroting the school bully, aka The Donald?

Why don't you just call her 'such a Nasty woman', as all you seem to do is repeat Trump?

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Who cares what that liar thinks, the man's got blood on his hands, anyone remember him telling the world about the iraqi mobile biological warfare lorries he had pictures of, any joy in finding them yet, no thought not and until they're found his opinion counts for nowt imo. Besides I'm more inclined to believe rabid Democrat Michael Moore who believes the American people will vote for the donald as a massive f you to the establishment thanks in large part to people like the charlatan Powell

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Latest video from Project Veritas "Exposes Foreign Donations"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBrZItwVy4

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I don't see the problem with carrying the phrase if he so desires.

I don't recall people being admonished for using the phrase " Bliar". Or " dubya" not really an issue is it?

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It should not be an issue if I choose to describe a candidate who is corrupt and for the record, Trump was not guilty of any threats to women, what he was caught saying in private, 11 years ago was tame in comparison to what I have heard blokes in Night Clubs discuss with their mates and also, what I have heard women say they would like to do to fit blokes they have seen on the dance floor. As for the 11 women who have come forward with all kinds of allegations, I am sure like Trump said, is fiction, orchestrated by the DNC campaign and the media to some extent.