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denphone 27-01-2012 10:51

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35370142)

Christ l cannot believe its gone over 5 million and don't it tell us that things are more then bad but absolutely dreadful in parts of Europe.

Alan Fry 27-01-2012 11:05

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35370142)

If this continues on, they Europe would be facing big poltical change!

denphone 27-01-2012 20:09

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http://rt.com/news/fitch-downgrade-eu-countries-919/

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Ratings agency Fitch has downgraded the credit ratings for five European nations, namely Belgium, Cyprus, Italy, Slovenia and Spain.

*The agency stated the revision was made due to "the absence of a credible financial firewall against contagion and self-fulfilling liquidity crises" and "the marked deterioration in the economic outlook" in Europe

Osem 28-01-2012 19:36

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A leaked plan from the German government proposes a eurozone "budget commissioner" to take control of Greece's tax and spending, reports say.

The Financial Times, which has a copy of the plan, calls it an "extraordinary extension" of EU control.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16773974

That'll go down well in Greece won't it? :rolleyes: How long before they want EU appointed 'commissioners' to run Spain, Italy, Portugal, Ireland etc?....

gba93 28-01-2012 19:57

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35371112)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16773974

That'll go down well in Greece won't it? :rolleyes: How long before they want EU appointed 'commissioners' to run Spain, Italy, Portugal, Ireland etc?....

Note to Damien & Hugh - remember this post that you rubbished:

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The end result could still be the same for the weaker countries - lack of freedom, inability to govern according to the will of the people and being dictated to by another country (or countries)

Osem 29-01-2012 16:42

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The man from Athens, he say 'NO'....


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Greece has rejected outright German proposals for the EU to hold power over its budget.

Culture Minister Pavlos Yeroulanos told the BBC it would be "impossible" for Greece to cede control of its tax and spending powers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16780448

Osem 29-01-2012 21:40

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... and it's all the fault of the Germans with a bit of help from the French and Gordon Brown:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16761087

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Who is to blame for starting the current crisis in the eurozone? Greece? Italy? The real answer may lie further north.

It was not the behaviour of the eurozone's southern members that first plunged the single currency into crisis.

There was, from the beginning, a way for the EU to police the economies of member states by following the rules that had been laid down for the single currency in the Maastricht Treaty.

It was called the Stability and Growth Pact, and it was not Italy or Greece that torpedoed it - it was Germany.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16761087

nomadking 29-01-2012 22:34

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And that forced Greece to go on a spending spree and pay certain groups ridiculous amounts in wages.:rolleyes:

Alan Fry 30-01-2012 08:54

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There will be a United States of Europe at this rate, but the UK is unlikely to be part of it!

gba93 30-01-2012 09:54

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35371933)
There will be a United States of Europe at this rate, but the UK is unlikely to be part of it!

Damien/Hugh ------- any observations on this current turn of events :rolleyes:

denphone 30-01-2012 09:55

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35371933)
There will be a United States of Europe at this rate, but the UK is unlikely to be part of it!

And thats the way l want it.

Osem 30-01-2012 10:18

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35371808)
And that forced Greece to go on a spending spree and pay certain groups ridiculous amounts in wages.:rolleyes:

No, it set a climate in which excesses would be 'overlooked' for political ends perhaps. Nobody forced all those in the UK who jumped on the property remortgaging and credit bandwagon but they did it and it was clearly politically expedient at the time to do nothing about it.

Hugh 30-01-2012 10:35

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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35371955)
Damien/Hugh ------- any observations on this current turn of events :rolleyes:

Yes.

The Greeks keep saying "we're going to fix it" - after a couple of recursions of this behaviour, without actually fixing it, the German's made a proposal (imho, quite reasonably - the Greeks want the money with the responsibility of having to do anything, or fix anything).

It's still not the same as invasion, however you make like to spin it. :dozey:

Alan Fry 30-01-2012 10:45

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Left wing parties on the rise in Greece

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...oll-shows.html

Dai 30-01-2012 10:57

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35371983)
It's still not the same as invasion, however you make like to spin it.

Indeed it's not. There is always a faint hope that local rebels could fight off an armed invasion. With this sort of financially-driven takeover the result is virtually the same but there is no target to fight.


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