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With those figures I do not doubt you ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I got an email this morning from Cindy Rose, Virgin's Executive Director of Digital Enterntainment:

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Doesn't sound to promising.

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We'll get it. Not in HD but we'll get it. SKY have poured a lot of money into this deal. They would be MAD not to try and claw it back through sale to Virgin. They know they can sell the SD version and get money.

Oh and i can't see it possible VM can do an OD deal with Universal and not get the HD channle versin somwhere down the line...

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I agree: they may (or may not) hold back the HD version for a few months but will need the 3.75m Virgin viewers to sell this to advertisers, especially as they're not charging Sky customers any extra for the channel.
It's telling that the Sky announcement mentioned that the new channels "will be channels worth paying for and will give even more customers reasons to choose pay TV". Not "Sky TV" - "pay TV". Daroch believes the enemy to be Freeview/Freesat, not Virgin Media.
A shame that Digital Spy can't report on a press release accurately.

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Demand Five here in Teesside as of this morning!

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Can't work out if

• 725,000 out of a possible out of 3.77 million sub subscribe to Sports/Movies (about 20%ish of all subscribers)
• 52,000 out of a possible 1.4 million for Sky Sports/Movies HD (about 4% of HD subscribers)

are good figures.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...00mb-broadband

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Maybe it would be possible to email her back and ask why a provision for Sky launching new non Premium channels wasn't included in the negotiations when selling the Virgin channels and getting Sky HD?

Most people on this forum would have covered that in the nefgotiations and the Virgin media people are meant to be proffesional negotiators.

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VERY good question!

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DEMAND FIVE now gone from catch up in Barnsley.

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You don't really think a senior Director at Virgin will answer that, do you? It would mean referring to the commercial agreements they have with Sky regarding the sale of VMTV and carriage arrangements, neither of which are going to be made public.

It's very easy for us to sit here and question the deals that may have been done, but we don't know the details nor will we. Does Sky Atlantic simply replace Bravo/Channel One/Trouble? Don't know. Is it a "Sky Basic" and therefore get covered by the Sky Basics HD agreement? No idea.

All we know is that when Sky withheld Sky One it hit them hard commercially and they ended up returning to the table to appease advertisers. Sky has just shy of 10m TV customers and the only other significant pay platform adds over a third more (3.77m to be exact) - it's in both sides interest to expose Atlantic to as many paying viewers as possible.

And let's not forget the limited appeal of Atlantic - Mad Men on BBC4, a much larger viewing pool, has tiny audiences.

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When Channel One and Bravo shut how many channels will be lost including +1, surely this will hurt VM more than Sky , as Sky already has more channels.

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5 channels will close.

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Channel One
Channel One +1
Bravo
Bravo +1
Bravo2

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And we also lost Sky Real Lives, Real Lives 2 and the promised HD versions under the Basics deal.

Do we get Sky Living? Or does the rebrand mean that it and it's +1 and 2 versions go as well?