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the-cable-guy 13-05-2008 01:37
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hay im not saying that your service isint good (it is) im just saying that its over priced, as VM is compared to other ISPs.

Hugh 13-05-2008 08:02
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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34550716)
hay im not saying that your service isint good (it is) im just saying that its over priced, as VM is compared to other ISPs.
SMH is talking about a bundled package (TV & BB) and you are talking about ISPs (BB) - you appear to be comparing apples and fruit cocktails.

Stuart 13-05-2008 09:44
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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34550710)
Not wanting to take this off topic but I am with an ISP that I have not heard wants to deploy Phorm, makes enough money to outbid Murdoch and buy newspapers and has sufficient capital to be able to upgrade their infrastructure to carry 40+ chanels of HD, HD OnDemand and while it has traffic management on the Broadband I have not been in a situation where I have found the performance degraded (so perhaps I have not been impacted by it). I guess that is the choice, pay more, which the british public don't appear to want to, to get what you want or go to the lowest service at the lowest price.
That's the problem with this country. We obviously want good service, but we are not happy to pay for it. That's not specifically a rant against the consumer though. That "pay the least possible" attitude is running through our economy, right from the consumer to the largest companies. It is an attitude that, I think, will ultimately cause us a *lot* of problems.

SMHarman 13-05-2008 19:27
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34550795)
SMH is talking about a bundled package (TV & BB) and you are talking about ISPs (BB) - you appear to be comparing apples and fruit cocktails.
20/2 BB is $45 a month at current exchange rates GBP23. Is that a lot? 30/3 BB is $55 a month / GBP28. Is that a lot?

the-cable-guy 13-05-2008 20:01
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34550795)
SMH is talking about a bundled package (TV & BB) and you are talking about ISPs (BB) - you appear to be comparing apples and fruit cocktails.
not at all you misunderstood me :rolleyes:

Hugh 13-05-2008 20:09
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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34551295)
not at all you misunderstood me :rolleyes:
Apologies, M'sieu l'homme-de-cable, I can only go on what you type :dozey:
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VM is compared to other ISPs
which appears to compare VM, a cable tv/isp/telephony company with "other ISPs", internet providers (ISP = Internet Service Provider, just in case ;) ), as SMH was talking about his TV/PVR/BB bundle.

TraxData 13-05-2008 20:26
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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34550846)
That's the problem with this country. We obviously want good service, but we are not happy to pay for it. That's not specifically a rant against the consumer though. That "pay the least possible" attitude is running through our economy, right from the consumer to the largest companies. It is an attitude that, I think, will ultimately cause us a *lot* of problems.
If most of us could actually afford to live we wouldnt have to adopt the "pay the least possible" attitude.

If you have kids...but are taxed to the hill and back, have bills etc...cant afford TV but really need it (as you do with kids) then you'll try and get it for as cheap as you can.

It's no use applying the "if you cant afford something, dont buy it" attitude anymore.

Hugh 13-05-2008 20:31
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Why not?

Otherwise, it's just keep up with the Joneses, which is a spiral into self-fulfilling more, more, more - if we can't afford it, we don't have it; cable/satellite TV is a luxury, not a necessity (imho).

btw, I have kids, I pay lots of taxes - if we can afford something, we have it; if we can't, we save up for it.

TraxData 13-05-2008 20:33
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34551326)
Why not?

Otherwise, it's just keep up with the Joneses, which is a spiral into self-fulfilling more, more, more - if we can't afford it, we don't have it; cable/satellite TV is a luxury, not a necessity (imho).

btw, I have kids, I pay lots of taxes - if we can afford something, we have it; if we can't, we save up for it.

I think if you have young kids then having tv is a neccessity, but that's just my opinion.

I am from the view that if you cant afford something then dont buy it.

BUT there is instances where that falls flat on its arse.

Mr_love_monkey 13-05-2008 20:38
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Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34551323)
...cant afford TV but really need it (as you do with kids) then you'll try and get it for as cheap as you can.
why would you 'need' it for kids?

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If most of us could actually afford to live we wouldnt have to adopt the "pay the least possible" attitude.
Not at all - it seems to be (as Stuart said) something that is ingrained into us - as a culture we seem to be unique in the fact that we think being thrifty when it comes to food shopping is a good thing - rather than worrying about the quality of the food we have we're more concerned about spending as little as possible - the UK has a very strange attitude like this.
I seem to remember reading that we spend less on food than most countries and pride ourselves on it

TraxData 13-05-2008 20:44
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why would you 'need' it for kids?
Rainy days, most poor parents have to work 24/7 to bring in a steady income, on time off they have to do house work, without tv kids get highly annoying.

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Not at all - it seems to be (as Stuart said) something that is ingrained into us - as a culture we seem to be unique in the fact that we think being thrifty when it comes to food shopping is a good thing - rather than worrying about the quality of the food we have we're more concerned about spending as little as possible - the UK has a very strange attitude like this.
I seem to remember reading that we spend less on food than most countries and pride ourselves on it
Wasnt ingrained into me at all, nor anyone else i know.

If im to be honest only people i know who adapt the "get it as cheap as possible" par from people who really cannt afford it.

Is "chavs" and lay abouts who dont go to work...just smoke and drink...

the-cable-guy 13-05-2008 23:14
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34551312)
Apologies, M'sieu l'homme-de-cable, I can only go on what you type :dozey:
:rolleyes:

Hugh 14-05-2008 08:42
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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34551528)
:rolleyes:
Apparently the earthquake in China was partially due to the torque-induced precession to the Earth's spin caused by Oscar Wilde spinning in his grave at your riposte above ;)

Or perhaps it was due to one of your previous bon-mots in another thread
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haha p*sser
:D

LondonRoad 14-05-2008 08:58
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Sad but true. My 6 year old girl is the only one in her class of 29 who doesn't have a TV in her room. Do kids 'need' a TV in their room or do the parents need the kids to have a TV in their room.

Stuart 14-05-2008 09:22
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Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34551323)

It's no use applying the "if you cant afford something, dont buy it" attitude anymore.
You don't *need* any kind of pay TV, even with kids (I count Sky and VM basic packages as pay TV, as you need a monthly subscription).

Even assuming you need TV (and I know people who get along perfectly well without it), then you could buy a freeview box for £20-£30 and just watch that..

Sure, the kids would moan at first, but they'd would actually get used to missing nickelodeon etc. and they will eventually find other stuff (such as reading) that occupies their time.

So, yes, "if you cant afford something, dont buy it" most definately does apply.


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