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Mad Max 02-11-2017 19:04

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
One last question Rob, one of my V6 boxes still isn't connected to the internet, but I am still able to access Netflix, how can this be?

RobboEdin 02-11-2017 19:13

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
If you can access Netflix through the V6 app then the V6 must be connected to your home network and hence to the Internet.
What makes you think it's not connected? What does the V6 Network Status say?

Mad Max 02-11-2017 20:29

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35922970)
If you can access Netflix through the V6 app then the V6 must be connected to your home network and hence to the Internet.
What makes you think it's not connected? What does the V6 Network Status say?


I accessed Netflix through the app on my smart TV, not via the app on the V6, the two red lights are still on the V6, one of them is the WiFi icon which I understand means that the V6 has lost connection with the internet, so it's rather strange that I can still access Netflix, albeit via the app on my smart TV, I've just checked the Network Status and it's definitely not connected.

spiderplant 02-11-2017 20:50

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35922989)
I accessed Netflix through the app on my smart TV, not via the app on the V6, the two red lights are still on the V6, one of them is the WiFi icon which I understand means that the V6 has lost connection with the internet, so it's rather strange that I can still access Netflix, albeit via the app on my smart TV, I've just checked the Network Status and it's definitely not connected.

Your TV is connected to the WiFi, which is separate from the connection (or otherwise) that your V6 has.

From what you've said I suspect there may be a strange Wi-Fi interference problem in your home. It's not going to be easy to track down, though. Maybe try turning the hub through 90 degrees or move it sideways a little. Even small changes can make a significant difference to signal radiation paterns.

Mad Max 02-11-2017 21:00

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35922998)
Your TV is connected to the WiFi, which is separate from the connection (or otherwise) that your V6 has.

From what you've said I suspect there may be a strange Wi-Fi interference problem in your home. It's not going to be easy to track down, though. Maybe try turning the hub through 90 degrees or move it sideways a little. Even small changes can make a significant difference to signal radiation paterns.

Got you, I was kind of thinking that way, but to be honest wasn't at all sure, thanks for keeping me straight on this, really appreciate all the help I've had from you and Robbo, my Hub 3 is quite a bit away from my main TV and I'm going to connect the V6 to the 2.4GHz connection, the same as I have done for the TV in my other room, which is now working fine. I've moved my hub a little bit so I'll see if that makes a difference, thanks.

muppetman11 02-11-2017 21:13

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35923003)
Got you, I was kind of thinking that way, but to be honest wasn't at all sure, thanks for keeping me straight on this, really appreciate all the help I've had from you and Robbo, my Hub 3 is quite a bit away from my main TV and I'm going to connect the V6 to the 2.4GHz connection, the same as I have done for the TV in my other room, which is now working fine. I've moved my hub a little bit so I'll see if that makes a difference, thanks.

Wi-Fi is a complete minefield , what Robbo has told you is spot on. 2.4GHz generally has greater reach the only issue with 2.4GHz is it's generally more congested than 5Ghz if you have plenty of neighbours using Wi-Fi. Things such as cordless phones and microwaves can also cause interference on 2.4Ghz.

vincerooney 04-11-2017 22:20

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Hello all,

Got my new v6 and its incredible how quick it is compared to the old tivo. Difference of night and day. I already had a Superhub 3 (i asked for it in an email thinking i was getting something better- i had a superhub 1 tho so it was getting on a bit) my speed fluctuates wildly but not as bad as other people are saying. I'm getting over 218mb on a saturday and a ping of 13.. I'm meant to be on the max which i think is 250 but ill happily take that considering i see a lot of problems for some people with the superhub 3.

My questions are:

1) i like the interference but will it likely change soon?
2) The apps were meant to be a big feature but they all look the same to me? are we getting anymore? i heard rumours of the wwe network?
3) Apart from speed of the box, more box space size and the ability to get netflix on super quick am i missing anymore new features people like?

vincerooney 10-11-2017 16:31

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Oh and another how we watch recordings on our mobile? I assume like watching live tv we need to be on the same WiFi... sort of defeats the point

muppetman11 10-11-2017 16:43

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35924319)
Oh and another how we watch recordings on our mobile? I assume like watching live tv we need to be on the same WiFi... sort of defeats the point

Considering the recording is stored locally on your box how else could you do it ?

ozsat 10-11-2017 17:07

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Do you not download it to the mobile first?
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35924319)
Oh and another how we watch recordings on our mobile? I assume like watching live tv we need to be on the same WiFi... sort of defeats the point


muppetman11 10-11-2017 17:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35924329)
Do you not download it to the mobile first?

That's the only option if you want to take it away from the home with you , although to be fair you still need to be on the same Wi-Fi to download it.

pengedragon 11-11-2017 08:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
delighted with our new box, one slightly odd query

i've programmed the remote control for our tv, it'll switch it off and on but won't change the volume

worth trying to program it again ?

spiderplant 11-11-2017 09:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35924440)
worth trying to program it again ?

Yes - keep searching. There may be another code later in the sequence that works better with your TV.

pengedragon 11-11-2017 10:56

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
ah ok, thanks

vincerooney 12-11-2017 16:43

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Any chance of a WWE network app on tivo? I used to use my ps4 for everything and now i can finally use netflix on tivo again....just missing that wwe app!

OLD BOY 13-11-2017 10:22

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35924670)
Any chance of a WWE network app on tivo? I used to use my ps4 for everything and now i can finally use netflix on tivo again....just missing that wwe app!

I am keeping my fingers crossed that we will get more apps in 2018. If so, hopefully, WWE Network will be one of them.

daz100 23-11-2017 22:26

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Should the v6 record 6 shows? Every Thursday the 6th show states its being recorded but there is a no red status and it cannot be played back?

spiderplant 24-11-2017 09:19

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daz100 (Post 35926101)
Should the v6 record 6 shows? Every Thursday the 6th show states its being recorded but there is a no red status and it cannot be played back?

Yes, it can record six, unless a tuner is in use for something else, such as watching a different 6th channel, or for VOD.

When you say "it cannot be played back", what exactly does it say? The 'Planned Recordings' and 'Recording Hiccups' sections may also explain why it isn't doing what you expect.

RobboEdin 24-11-2017 12:20

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daz100 (Post 35926101)
Should the v6 record 6 shows? Every Thursday the 6th show states its being recorded but there is a no red status and it cannot be played back?

Perhaps a padding issue stopping the sixth one from recording? Were there programs recording before with after padding set?

ozsat 24-11-2017 12:30

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
What is your 'keep at most' set to in the series link?

Keep at most 5 with keep until space needed - will only keep last 5 episodes.
Keep at most 5 with keep until I delete - will only record 5 episodes before it stops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daz100 (Post 35926101)
Should the v6 record 6 shows? Every Thursday the 6th show states its being recorded but there is a no red status and it cannot be played back?


denphone 07-03-2018 17:50

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Virgin Media Eyes Transition to ‘Horizon’ Guide:

Quote:

Virgin Media’s long-standing relationship with TiVo appears to be in line for a bit of a change.
Quote:

“It’s no secret that Liberty Global has its own Horizon UI at the moment and you can expect that we will transition to that on the V6 box and we’ll do that in co-operation with TiVo,” he said, according to Broadband TV News. “They are very understanding of our desire to do that and will help us do that.”
http://www.multichannel.com/blog/bau...-report/418549

OLD BOY 07-03-2018 18:20

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35939864)
Virgin Media Eyes Transition to ‘Horizon’ Guide:





http://www.multichannel.com/blog/bau...-report/418549

Yes, this has been on the cards for some time, and I welcome this. The Horizon UI will look far better than the outdated one we have currently on the V6.

I think I read a couple of years ago that the plan was to upgrade the V6s to the Horizon UI about two years after launch, but that may have changed.

http://www.digitaltveurope.com/2017/...at-some-point/

Mad Max 09-03-2018 00:20

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Had a strange one on the V6 box tonight, we were getting "audio description" whilst watching Master Chef on the BBC HD channel, most annoying, and it's the first time this has ever happened since we got the V6 boxes, I tried turning it off, but to no avail, so we ended up watching the SD version of that channel, not very good I must say, but watching in SD did not have "audio description", so the question is, has anyone else been affected by this, and if resolved, what did you do to fix it?


Thanks.

OLD BOY 09-03-2018 08:32

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35940056)
Had a strange one on the V6 box tonight, we were getting "audio description" whilst watching Master Chef on the BBC HD channel, most annoying, and it's the first time this has ever happened since we got the V6 boxes, I tried turning it off, but to no avail, so we ended up watching the SD version of that channel, not very good I must say, but watching in SD did not have "audio description", so the question is, has anyone else been affected by this, and if resolved, what did you do to fix it?


Thanks.

Sounds to me like BBC transmitted the wrong version of the programme if you were watching on channel 108. It doesn't sound to me as if it is a V6 problem.

jb66 09-03-2018 08:58

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35940072)
Sounds to me like BBC transmitted the wrong version of the programme if you were watching on channel 108. It doesn't sound to me as if it is a V6 problem.

It was a BBC problem, reported on freeview too

punkrock101 13-03-2018 08:15

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
If virgin did update to horizon on the V6 will we all be getting new remotes as the horizon remote has a keyboard on the underside.

Doz007 14-03-2018 15:50

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Any recent videos of the Horizon UI about? I tried to look the other day but the videos seemed to be from around 2013 and obviously looked really dated by today's standards.

OLD BOY 14-03-2018 19:19

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrock101 (Post 35940476)
If virgin did update to horizon on the V6 will we all be getting new remotes as the horizon remote has a keyboard on the underside.

I don't think we would get new remotes as well. It's just an update on the software that we will be getting.

Mr K 14-03-2018 19:47

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35940700)
I don't think we would get new remotes as well. It's just an update on the software that we will be getting.

A nice flat remote would be nice. VMs peanut thing always ends up on the floor...

Mad Max 14-03-2018 20:11

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35940703)
A nice flat remote would be nice. VMs peanut thing always ends up on the floor...


Totally agree, it's shape isn't good.

RobboEdin 14-03-2018 20:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
The remote is fine.
Placed buttons down, it sits flat and is the correct way up for picking it up.

Mad Max 14-03-2018 21:22

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just recently we have been getting pixelation problems, it's more noticeable when watching football on Sky and BT HD channels, as far as I am aware pixelation occurs when the incoming signal to your TV is weak or incomplete, so can anyone throw some light on this problem, as it has only just started in the last week or so.


Thx.

---------- Post added at 20:22 ---------- Previous post was at 20:20 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35940717)
The remote is fine.
Placed buttons down, it sits flat and is the correct way up for picking it up.

Ah, never thought of putting it down that way, thanks Rob....:)

spiderplant 14-03-2018 21:23

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35940721)
Just recently we have been getting pixelation problems, it's more noticeable when watching football on Sky and BT HD channels, as far as I am aware pixelation occurs when the incoming signal to your TV is weak or incomplete, so can anyone throw some light on this problem, as it has only just started in the last week or so.

Yes, usually a poor signal. You need a technician visit.

Mad Max 14-03-2018 21:34

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35940723)
Yes, usually a poor signal. You need a technician visit.


Ok thanks, SP.....:)

Raider999 14-03-2018 21:58

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35940703)
A nice flat remote would be nice. VMs peanut thing always ends up on the floor...

Just had to pick mine up and re-assemble so can identify with that

---------- Post added at 20:58 ---------- Previous post was at 20:54 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35940721)
Just recently we have been getting pixelation problems, it's more noticeable when watching football on Sky and BT HD channels, as far as I am aware pixelation occurs when the incoming signal to your TV is weak or incomplete, so can anyone throw some light on this problem, as it has only just started in the last week or so.


Thx.[COLOR="Silver"]



Had this myself, technician came went to box in street came back and all was well - solution was moving me towards top of box (apparently those at top get stronger signals to house!)

Problem as I see it is were others all moved down one or was it a one for one swap?

What happens if another technician comes later and you get moved back down to resolve someone else's problem?

Seems a very strange setup - you would have thought all would be the same?

punkrock101 14-03-2018 22:47

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Reason I asked as the current remote is TiVo centric you’d end up with useless buttons like thumbs up and down keys... I’d prefer TiVo gui to be honest I seen horizon before and the gui is terrible compared to TiVo as a matter of a fact virgin should adapt hydra gui.

Doz007 14-03-2018 23:16

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrock101 (Post 35940739)
Reason I asked as the current remote is TiVo centric you’d end up with useless buttons like thumbs up and down keys... I’d prefer TiVo gui to be honest I seen horizon before and the gui is terrible compared to TiVo as a matter of a fact virgin should adapt hydra gui.

Totally agree with this. I really like what TiVo have done with the Hydra UI.

spiderplant 14-03-2018 23:29

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35940729)
Had this myself, technician came went to box in street came back and all was well - solution was moving me towards top of box (apparently those at top get stronger signals to house!)

Problem as I see it is were others all moved down one or was it a one for one swap?

What happens if another technician comes later and you get moved back down to resolve someone else's problem?

Seems a very strange setup - you would have thought all would be the same?

They need a range of signal levels at the cabinet because the distance to the houses varies. Longer cables need more signal.

Hopefully there were some spare taps in your cabinet, so they didn't have to move someone else down to move yours up.

Mad Max 15-03-2018 00:01

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Can this be done remotely without the need for an engineer to visit? This has only happened since we got the V6 boxes, is this just a coincidence or could it be related?

cheekyangus 15-03-2018 00:20

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I've noticed that if you check the signal levels and are tuned to HD channels they are getting significantly higher signal levels. Only noticed it recently as I too have had pixelisation more often, though it's now reduced/stopped in last week or so despite no change in signal levels.

spiderplant 15-03-2018 00:56

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35940749)
Can this be done remotely without the need for an engineer to visit? This has only happened since we got the V6 boxes, is this just a coincidence or could it be related?

No, it can't be done remotely. But before you call, just make sure all the connectors are tight. It might simply be a connector got disturbed when the new boxes were put in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35940752)
I've noticed that if you check the signal levels and are tuned to HD channels they are getting significantly higher signal levels. Only noticed it recently as I too have had pixelisation more often, though it's now reduced/stopped in last week or so despite no change in signal levels.

Different frequencies will often have different signal levels. It's normal and the boxes are designed to cope with a wide range of levels.

The levels will also vary depending on the temperature. Maybe the pixellation was during the spell of very cold weather?

cheekyangus 15-03-2018 14:58

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35940756)
Different frequencies will often have different signal levels. It's normal and the boxes are designed to cope with a wide range of levels.

The levels will also vary depending on the temperature. Maybe the pixellation was during the spell of very cold weather?

Thanks spiderplant. :-)

That never occurred to me, I do think the pixelation coincided with it. The levels haven't changed though since the pixelation reduced/stopped.

V6 is due Monday so we'll see how they are then.

Gavin-D 15-03-2018 17:02

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just reading through the t's and c's and it says

Quote:

TiVo: The monthly TiVo charge is £5 per TiVo box (on top of your Player TV, Mix TV, Fun TV or Full House TV package’). Content available to view depends on your TV package. TiVo box remains property of Virgin Media.
Should the page not also state an additional V6 will cost £7.50 a month?

BenMcr 15-03-2018 17:09

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
They're not always though - it depends on your bundle

For instance the VIP bundle includes an additional V6 box, but you're not charged an extra £7.50 on top of your quoted price.

The bit about the TiVo fee has been around since TiVo launched on Virgin Media - because it used to be an extra fee, and I believe it's also part of TiVo's requirements, so Virgin Media have to list it separately for legal reasons.

Raider999 15-03-2018 22:24

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35940752)
I've noticed that if you check the signal levels and are tuned to HD channels they are getting significantly higher signal levels. Only noticed it recently as I too have had pixelisation more often, though it's now reduced/stopped in last week or so despite no change in signal levels.


According to my technician it is because V6 boxes can record 6 progs at once, therefore 2 boxes = 12 progs.

This is equivalent of 4 TiVo boxes so needs a better signal.

I don't know if there was a spare slot high up in the box or not - technician just said he had moved me up so I would get the quality of signal I needed.

I suppose it makes sense for distance to also be a factor, just seemed strange that the higher up you are the better signal you get.

Maybe this is because the top 1 takes what it needs then the 2nd etc, whilst those at the bottom get what's left?

Have to say on a Saturday particularly I am usually recording 5 or 6 HD progs on each box at any one time - so presumably needing a high quality signal?

jb66 15-03-2018 23:10

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35940838)
According to my technician it is because V6 boxes can record 6 progs at once, therefore 2 boxes = 12 progs.

This is equivalent of 4 TiVo boxes so needs a better signal.

I don't know if there was a spare slot high up in the box or not - technician just said he had moved me up so I would get the quality of signal I needed.

I suppose it makes sense for distance to also be a factor, just seemed strange that the higher up you are the better signal you get.

Maybe this is because the top 1 takes what it needs then the 2nd etc, whilst those at the bottom get what's left?

Have to say on a Saturday particularly I am usually recording 5 or 6 HD progs on each box at any one time - so presumably needing a high quality signal?


Wow

spiderplant 15-03-2018 23:36

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35940838)
According to my technician it is because V6 boxes can record 6 progs at once, therefore 2 boxes = 12 progs.

This is equivalent of 4 TiVo boxes so needs a better signal.

Not true. All boxes need the same signal level no matter how many tuners they have. However, if you have more boxes you may need a higher signal level into the house.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35940838)
just seemed strange that the higher up you are the better signal you get.

Stronger, but not necessarily better. The signal level can be too high. You need to be on the correct tap for your cable length.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35940838)
jHave to say on a Saturday particularly I am usually recording 5 or 6 HD progs on each box at any one time - so presumably needing a high quality signal?

You need the same signal no matter what you are watching/recording. TiVo records on all tuners all the time anyway (except in power-saving mode) - it just goes into the live TV buffers if you aren't making permanent recordings.

Raider999 16-03-2018 13:26

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35940844)
Not true. All boxes need the same signal level no matter how many tuners they have. However, if you have more boxes you may need a higher signal level into the house.


Stronger, but not necessarily better. The signal level can be too high. You need to be on the correct tap for your cable length.


You need the same signal no matter what you are watching/recording. TiVo records on all tuners all the time anyway (except in power-saving mode) - it just goes into the live TV buffers if you aren't making permanent recordings.

Thanks for the explanation - sounds like it's all down to the number of boxes (any type) and the distance from the street box - so absolutely no reason I wasn't on the "correct tap" from day 1

Gavin-D 26-03-2018 16:50

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
The V6 will work with VM's 100mb internet, won't it?

spiderplant 26-03-2018 16:52

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35941849)
The V6 will work with VM's 100mb internet, won't it?

Yes

Gavin-D 26-03-2018 16:56

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35941850)
Yes

Thanks

:)

gunner45 26-03-2018 17:27

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35941849)
The V6 will work with VM's 100mb internet, won't it?

It will work with VIVID 50 (50mbps down), which is VM's smallest package.

Ddonald2016 26-03-2018 19:42

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I was upgraded from 300 mbps to 350 mbps happy days

Gavin-D 26-03-2018 20:10

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gunner45 (Post 35941854)
It will work with VIVID 50 (50mbps down), which is VM's smallest package.

Thanks don't want to drop below 100mb for 4K streaming purposes

muppetman11 26-03-2018 20:35

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35941873)
Thanks don't want to drop below 100mb for 4K streaming purposes

Netflix 4K streaming tops out at 15.26Mbps

Hugh 26-03-2018 21:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35941876)
Netflix 4K streaming tops out at 15.26Mbps

Netflix recommend 25Mb/s for 4K.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306
Quote:

Internet Connection Speed Recommendations

Below are the internet download speed recommendations per stream for playing TV shows and movies through Netflix.

0.5 Megabits per second - Required broadband connection speed
1.5 Megabits per second - Recommended broadband connection speed
3.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for SD quality
5.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for HD quality
25 Megabits per second - Recommended for Ultra HD quality

muppetman11 26-03-2018 21:23

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
They may very well recommend however it only uses 15.26 the point I was making is a 50mb connection is more than enough for 4K streaming.

gunner45 26-03-2018 21:43

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35941873)
Thanks don't want to drop below 100mb for 4K streaming purposes

Initially, VM insisted on VIVID 100 (100mbps). Then they decided to hand out free V6s to replace old boxes and, strangely, the broadband requirement dropped to VIVID 50.

OLD BOY 27-03-2018 10:05

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35941882)
They may very well recommend however it only uses 15.26 the point I was making is a 50mb connection is more than enough for 4K streaming.

It may not be if others in your house are using mobile phones, tablets, etc at the same time.

muppetman11 27-03-2018 10:42

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35941899)
It may not be if others in your house are using mobile phones, tablets, etc at the same time.

It still leaves you with nearly 35mb I'm pretty sure that'll cover mobile phones and tablets.

ozsat 27-03-2018 11:05

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Start a 4K Youtube video on the V6 box and it reports it is downloading at around 80-90Mpbs.

muppetman11 27-03-2018 12:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35941907)
Start a 4K Youtube video on the V6 box and it reports it is downloading at around 80-90Mpbs.

You need nowhere near that speed to stream YouTube in 4K.

To be clear I'm not saying 50mb will do everyone especially in really large families but it will happily stream 4K.

ozsat 27-03-2018 13:18

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
50mb will stream 4K fine - if nothing else is happening.

But Youtube will take what it can even if it don't need it.

You V6 box will use capacity at random times to update the guide.

50mb is not very much once one person is stream 4K and another starts using Youtube.
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35941911)
You need nowhere near that speed to stream YouTube in 4K.

To be clear I'm not saying 50mb will do everyone especially in really large families but it will happily stream 4K.


muppetman11 27-03-2018 13:47

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I always managed multiple UHD streams when on Infinity 1 and it's 52mb speeds and still had available bandwith for browsing or watching something else online.

I guess it depends on the quality of your connection. I accept though anyone wanting more than that needs a higher tier broadband.

BenMcr 27-03-2018 14:12

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
For me the reason for 100Mb was at the time that was the lowest speed in a TV bundle when the Virgin TV V6 box came out.

It also ensured that you could have more than one V6 box without having to change your broadband choice.

But as the current aim is to swap one V6 box for anyone who doesn't already have one, then 50Mb is fine for that.

I'd think that where people want multiple V6 boxes then they'll likely be on 100Mb or higher anyway.

Gavin-D 17-11-2018 18:53

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Does anyone know what the update did to the V6 yesterday? was it just bug fixes? haven't noticed anything different

spiderplant 17-11-2018 19:25

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35971223)
Does anyone know what the update did to the V6 yesterday? was it just bug fixes? haven't noticed anything different

Improved power saving in Eco Low Power mode, and you'll now only be asked for a PIN once when watching a box-set unless a later episode has a higher parental rating. And some bug fixes.

cheekyangus 17-11-2018 20:26

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35971237)
Improved power saving in Eco Low Power mode, and you'll now only be asked for a PIN once when watching a box-set unless a later episode has a higher parental rating. And some bug fixes.

So I wasn't imagining an update. :D

You know when you are in fast forward and you press to advance to the white notches? Well in last year or so it hasn't worked as well as it used to on Tivo and then V6 when in catch-up and On-demand. But maybe it was my imagination but yesterday when I tried it it seemed to work properly again. Is this one of the fixes?

spiderplant 17-11-2018 20:40

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35971248)
You know when you are in fast forward and you press to advance to the white notches? Well in last year or so it hasn't worked as well as it used to on Tivo and then V6 when in catch-up and On-demand. But maybe it was my imagination but yesterday when I tried it it seemed to work properly again. Is this one of the fixes?

I don't think that's fixed. If I remember right, it works OK for the ticks near the start, but not for those near the end.

OLD BOY 17-11-2018 20:51

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35971249)
I don't think that's fixed. If I remember right, it works OK for the ticks near the start, but not for those near the end.

I use that quite a lot but haven't noticed this problem. Maybe I'd better not talk too soon!

cheekyangus 18-11-2018 10:53

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35971249)
I don't think that's fixed. If I remember right, it works OK for the ticks near the start, but not for those near the end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35971251)
I use that quite a lot but haven't noticed this problem. Maybe I'd better not talk too soon!

Seems it must have been a freak occurrence when it seemed to work correctly. Tried it on another episode of the same show last night on On-demand and it crashed the progress bar so I had to resume normal speed and try again much slower.

Now I have to see if the other annoyance has been fixed. Namely when you finish a recorded show and it says Delete or Keep. In recent months when you press Delete it goes back to the show information page like you had pressed Keep, though if you subsequently press left to exit this screen back to My Shows it has in fact deleted as it was supposed to. It used to go straight back to My Shows when you pressed delete at the end of watching a show.

I find this much more annoying than the weird UI design with regard watching some On-demand where you basically end up selecting Watch twice on two slightly different screens before it plays. But if this also got fixed that would be excellent.

Gavin-D 18-11-2018 17:51

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35971237)
Improved power saving in Eco Low Power mode, and you'll now only be asked for a PIN once when watching a box-set unless a later episode has a higher parental rating. And some bug fixes.

Thanks

:)

1701-e 19-11-2018 11:48

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Press red on BBC and the screen goes black with the BBC loading message rather than transparent. Only started this in the last few days. Connected to the s/w upgrade?
.

spiderplant 19-11-2018 12:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 35971395)
Connected to the s/w upgrade?

I doubt it. More likely to be a change by the BBC.

Note that the roll-out is about halfway through, so lots of boxes still have the old software. (old=20.7.6.., new=20.8.1...)

denphone 19-11-2018 12:25

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just got sent a email from Virgin offering a free Powerline kit.

It goes fill in the online form and we’ll pop your kit in the post asap.

Is there a catch?.

spiderplant 19-11-2018 12:42

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Did they say why they are offering it?

denphone 19-11-2018 12:58

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35971402)
Did they say why they are offering it?

This is what it said Spiderplant.

Quote:

Gutted that you can’t watch stuff recorded on one box, on your other one? Well, now you can. We’re giving away free Powerline kits that link up your V6 and TiVo® boxes. You can even pause what you’re watching and pick it up elsewhere. No catch. No extra cost.
Quote:

You've got until 23rd of November to claim your offer.
Quote:

Just fill in the online form and we’ll
pop your kit in the post asap.

spiderplant 19-11-2018 13:26

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
That sounds like it is aimed at people who have a V6 and an older TiVo. But you've got two V6's, right?

denphone 19-11-2018 13:49

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35971405)
That sounds like it is aimed at people who have a V6 and an older TiVo. But you've got two V6's, right?

Two V6's and a 500GB Tivo.

spiderplant 19-11-2018 14:17

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35971407)
Two V6's and a 500GB Tivo.

That's OK then. :)

If you want to link all your boxes, I'd say go for it.

denphone 19-11-2018 15:11

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35971410)
That's OK then. :)

If you want to link all your boxes, I'd say go for it.

Thanks SP.

iadom 20-11-2018 19:53

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35971400)
Just got sent a email from Virgin offering a free Powerline kit.

It goes fill in the online form and we’ll pop your kit in the post asap.

Is there a catch?.

Could be Den, I got the same email and then a confirmation that my FREE Powerline kit was on it's way within 4 weeks.

Just received another email to say it is on the way within 4 days and will cost me...…£42:00.:mad:

Jim.

denphone 21-11-2018 05:40

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35971660)
Could be Den, I got the same email and then a confirmation that my FREE Powerline kit was on it's way within 4 weeks.

Just received another email to say it is on the way within 4 days and will cost me...…£42:00.:mad:

Jim.

This is why l held back Jim as l felt the email was pretty vague explaining things and as we know when they say there is not a catch then there usually is one.

---------- Post added at 04:40 ---------- Previous post was at 04:40 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35971660)
Could be Den, I got the same email and then a confirmation that my FREE Powerline kit was on it's way within 4 weeks.

Just received another email to say it is on the way within 4 days and will cost me...…£42:00.:mad:

Jim.

:(:(

iadom 21-11-2018 13:22

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Rumours from another forum is that this may be Netgear kit, possibly being offloaded in place of the later Comtrend gear?

denphone 21-11-2018 13:24

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35971808)
Rumours from another forum is that this may be Netgear kit, possibly being offloaded in place of the later Comtrend gear?

Someone with more inside knowledge would have to answer that Jim.

iadom 21-11-2018 15:32

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just had confirmation from a VM employee on the 'official' VM community forums, the second email sent out regarding the £42 charge was in error.

Also does appear that it is old stock Netgear and not the later Comtrend stuff.

horseman 22-11-2018 09:44

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35971857)
Just had confirmation from a VM employee on the 'official' VM community forums, the second email sent out regarding the £42 charge was in error.

Also does appear that it is old stock Netgear and not the later Comtrend stuff.

.....and the (Homeplug) Netgear model doesn't have "passthru" either (if wasting one main socket is relevant) :(

denphone 22-11-2018 10:00

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35971857)
Just had confirmation from a VM employee on the 'official' VM community forums, the second email sent out regarding the £42 charge was in error.

Also does appear that it is old stock Netgear and not the later Comtrend stuff.

l am glad that l just left things as they are Jim.

iadom 22-11-2018 18:52

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
It arrived today, simple to set and does work perfectly. I don’t need a mains pass through so as long as they don’t try to charge me £42 for it I’m a happy bunny. :cool:

Joedm45 10-12-2018 12:28

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Has anyone had any V6 glitches when casting youtube videos?

Recently I've had:

Multiple V6 options on my phone when choosing which device to cast to, 4 is my record all named V6 Living Room.
When choosing one to cast the V6 reboots before even opening the app obviously messing up any recordings going on at the time.

Anyone else experiencing problems?

Thanks

RobboEdin 10-12-2018 12:31

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35974510)
Has anyone had any V6 glitches when casting youtube videos?

Recently I've had:

Multiple V6 options on my phone when choosing which device to cast to, 4 is my record all named V6 Living Room.
When choosing one to cast the V6 reboots before even opening the app obviously messing up any recordings going on at the time.

Anyone else experiencing problems?

Thanks

Well reported on the Community forum.

Joedm45 10-12-2018 23:49

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35974511)
Well reported on the Community forum.

Thanks RobboEdin, always forget to look there. Cable Forum is always more helpful :)

lightmyfire 11-12-2018 12:04

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Ok my first post.

A bit of background before I rant on. Yes I am a self confessed geek and got Sky a few weeks after it was launched all those years ago. And it was bloody cold on the roof directing my dish manually. Had Sky in many guises until finally at £130+ a month I said enough is enough and moved to BT. Also have dabbled with Openvix, Kodi etc.

So anyway the lure of 350mb broadband was too much so I bought out of my latest BT contract (Virgin had tempted me with £150 credit).

And what a shock!!! The interface for the V6 is appalling. 'Traditional' Sky (not exprienced Q), BT and even my customised Kodi and Openvix devices knock spots off it. i cannot believe how poor an interface is.

Given the competition i.e. Sky Q, surely a new front end must be on the cards.

Oh and I had heard that HD quality isn't the best. Well after switching from BT to Virgin I can certainly concur with that. A definate slight blurring.

I mean loads of stuff on catchup arent there from the night before and often series are missing episodes

You know what - I've got 11 months left. Can't wait to switch back to BT despite only getting 38mb braodband.

Sorry, don't mean to offend here. And hoepfully i can provide constructive feedback/answers as well.

Rant over

OLD BOY 11-12-2018 14:13

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lightmyfire (Post 35974751)
Ok my first post.

A bit of background before I rant on. Yes I am a self confessed geek and got Sky a few weeks after it was launched all those years ago. And it was bloody cold on the roof directing my dish manually. Had Sky in many guises until finally at £130+ a month I said enough is enough and moved to BT. Also have dabbled with Openvix, Kodi etc.

So anyway the lure of 350mb broadband was too much so I bought out of my latest BT contract (Virgin had tempted me with £150 credit).

And what a shock!!! The interface for the V6 is appalling. 'Traditional' Sky (not exprienced Q), BT and even my customised Kodi and Openvix devices knock spots off it. i cannot believe how poor an interface is.

Given the competition i.e. Sky Q, surely a new front end must be on the cards.

Oh and I had heard that HD quality isn't the best. Well after switching from BT to Virgin I can certainly concur with that. A definate slight blurring.

I mean loads of stuff on catchup arent there from the night before and often series are missing episodes

You know what - I've got 11 months left. Can't wait to switch back to BT despite only getting 38mb braodband.

Sorry, don't mean to offend here. And hoepfully i can provide constructive feedback/answers as well.

Rant over

Ha! Agree with you about the UI, and I have raised this myself on here, although many seem to believe that is not important. Clearly, it is, because it makes the service look old fashioned and puts people off if they are used to Sky Q and BT. However, the interface will be changing as the new Horizon UI is rolled out across Europe. Not sure how long it will take to get here though.

I don't have the issues with PQ that you have mentioned. I presume you have tried out the various settings on your V6 and the TV.

I tend not to watch much of Virgin's on demand apart from the Virgin Exclusives because I record the things I want to see, so I cannot comment with great authority on series missing episodes. However, as far as catch up is concerned, did you know you could go back to programmes already shown on the EPG and view them from there? That may solve that problem for you.

Personally, I am quite pleased with the service. It would be better if the V6s could record more. I have two - one in the lounge and one in the bedroom, and I can record on each as well as watch the bedroom recordings in the lounge and vice versa. Better than the Sky mini-box idea, because you cannot record on them.

Recording in HD, the 1MB capacity on the hard drive is not good enough really and I have to use my DVD recorder to give me a further 500 hours worth of HD recordings.

I love the fact that I can bookmark my Netflix shows so that they appear with all my recordings (without taking up recording space) and I prefer Virgin's on demand system in that you can just watch the programmes as soon as you select them, without having to download them first.

In the end, lightmyfire, I guess you just have to choose the best system that suits you.

lightmyfire 11-12-2018 14:31

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35974775)
Ha! Agree with you about the UI, and I have raised this myself on here, although many seem to believe that is not important. Clearly, it is, because it makes the service look old fashioned and puts people off if they are used to Sky Q and BT. However, the interface will be changing as the new Horizon UI is rolled out across Europe. Not sure how long it will take to get here though.

I don't have the issues with PQ that you have mentioned. I presume you have tried out the various settings on your V6 and the TV.

I tend not to watch much of Virgin's on demand apart from the Virgin Exclusives because I record the things I want to see, so I cannot comment with great authority on series missing episodes. However, as far as catch up is concerned, did you know you could go back to programmes already shown on the EPG and view them from there? That may solve that problem for you.

Personally, I am quite pleased with the service. It would be better if the V6s could record more. I have two - one in the lounge and one in the bedroom, and I can record on each as well as watch the bedroom recordings in the lounge and vice versa. Better than the Sky mini-box idea, because you cannot record on them.

Recording in HD, the 1MB capacity on the hard drive is not good enough really and I have to use my DVD recorder to give me a further 500 hours worth of HD recordings.

I love the fact that I can bookmark my Netflix shows so that they appear with all my recordings (without taking up recording space) and I prefer Virgin's on demand system in that you can just watch the programmes as soon as you select them, without having to download them first.

In the end, lightmyfire, I guess you just have to choose the best system that suits you.

Didn't know about the 'going back' on the EPG. Cheers for that

To be honest I rarely watch more than the sport channels and Wheeler Dealers (sad I know) and I have one of those Harmony remotes which takes me straight to them.


But it's the ear ache I get from the wife who, after around 4 years, had just mastered the BT box lol

OLD BOY 11-12-2018 14:33

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lightmyfire (Post 35974779)
Didn't know about the 'going back' on the EPG. Cheers for that

To be honest I rarely watch more than the sport channels and Wheeler Dealers (sad I know) and I have one of those Harmony remotes which takes me straight to them.


But it's the ear ache I get from the wife who, after around 4 years, had just mastered the BT box lol

She'll get used to it! I know what you mean though! :D

Raider999 11-12-2018 21:11

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35974775)
Ha! Agree with you about the UI, and I have raised this myself on here, although many seem to believe that is not important. Clearly, it is, because it makes the service look old fashioned and puts people off if they are used to Sky Q and BT. However, the interface will be changing as the new Horizon UI is rolled out across Europe. Not sure how long it will take to get here though.

I don't have the issues with PQ that you have mentioned. I presume you have tried out the various settings on your V6 and the TV.

I tend not to watch much of Virgin's on demand apart from the Virgin Exclusives because I record the things I want to see, so I cannot comment with great authority on series missing episodes. However, as far as catch up is concerned, did you know you could go back to programmes already shown on the EPG and view them from there? That may solve that problem for you.

Personally, I am quite pleased with the service. It would be better if the V6s could record more. I have two - one in the lounge and one in the bedroom, and I can record on each as well as watch the bedroom recordings in the lounge and vice versa. Better than the Sky mini-box idea, because you cannot record on them.

Recording in HD, the 1MB capacity on the hard drive is not good enough really and I have to use my DVD recorder to give me a further 500 hours worth of HD recordings.

I love the fact that I can bookmark my Netflix shows so that they appear with all my recordings (without taking up recording space) and I prefer Virgin's on demand system in that you can just watch the programmes as soon as you select them, without having to download them first.

In the end, lightmyfire, I guess you just have to choose the best system that suits you.

Have to agree, re the miserly disk size on the V6, however if you have skyQ you can have a 2Tb box which is the equivalent of 2 V6 boxes.

You can also start watching downloaded programs on sky boxes after a small %age has been downloaded - I believe the exact amount depends on your download speed.

Please enlighten me how you record HD recordings on your DVD recorder?

OLD BOY 12-12-2018 08:36

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35974857)
Have to agree, re the miserly disk size on the V6, however if you have skyQ you can have a 2Tb box which is the equivalent of 2 V6 boxes.

You can also start watching downloaded programs on sky boxes after a small %age has been downloaded - I believe the exact amount depends on your download speed.

Please enlighten me how you record HD recordings on your DVD recorder?

I use my DVD recorder to watch the terrestrial HD channels received through my aerial. The recorder upscales to near UHD quality.

Stuart 12-12-2018 11:34

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35974906)
I use my DVD recorder to watch the terrestrial HD channels received through my aerial. The recorder upscales to near UHD quality.

So that is upscaled SD. Upscaled SD can look very good, but it won't compare to good UHD (or HD).

That said, Quality is subjective, and resolution can be misleading. One of my jobs at work is to lend students equipment. Predominantly Laptops, Cameras and Microphones. The cameras we had varied from low-end camcorders up to a couple of RED Ones (the camera body alone is over £20,000, so you can easily pay over £30,000 for a full kit including lenses, mounts, batteries, tripods and a viewfinder). The low end cameras were Sony Mini DV camcorders, and were getting old, so my boss went out and bought a load of low end Sanyo Full HD Digital Video camcorders. The picture on the videos recorded on these cameras was awful. Far worse than the SD picture recorded by the Sony Mini DVs.

Yet, the specs of the cameras were considerably better than the Sonys they replaced.

OLD BOY 12-12-2018 15:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35974954)
So that is upscaled SD. Upscaled SD can look very good, but it won't compare to good UHD (or HD).

That said, Quality is subjective, and resolution can be misleading. One of my jobs at work is to lend students equipment. Predominantly Laptops, Cameras and Microphones. The cameras we had varied from low-end camcorders up to a couple of RED Ones (the camera body alone is over £20,000, so you can easily pay over £30,000 for a full kit including lenses, mounts, batteries, tripods and a viewfinder). The low end cameras were Sony Mini DV camcorders, and were getting old, so my boss went out and bought a load of low end Sanyo Full HD Digital Video camcorders. The picture on the videos recorded on these cameras was awful. Far worse than the SD picture recorded by the Sony Mini DVs.

Yet, the specs of the cameras were considerably better than the Sonys they replaced.

No. I have a 4K Panasonic recorder. As I said, the HD programmes received are upscaled to near UHD quality.


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