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SnoopZ 16-03-2017 21:31

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I hope Amazon don't do similar with Kodi on their Fire Sticks.

theone2k10 16-03-2017 23:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35890370)
I hope Amazon don't do similar with Kodi on their Fire Sticks.

They won't but this is one of reasons i opted for a Android tv box can get one same price as Fire stick with better specs too, my android box costs £45 but has exact same specs as the fire tv box and was £25 cheaper lol.

SnoopZ 16-03-2017 23:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35890394)
They won't but this is one of reasons i opted for a Android tv box can get one same price as Fire stick with better specs too, my android box costs £45 but has exact same specs as the fire tv box and was £25 cheaper lol.

The reason i went with 2 Fire Sticks is i got them on Black Friday for £25 each and this was before i knew Kodi could be installed on them. :)

theone2k10 17-03-2017 00:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35890397)
The reason i went with 2 Fire Sticks is i got them on Black Friday for £25 each and this was before i knew Kodi could be installed on them. :)

Fire devices are cracking devices i got the fire tv box in the bedroom its one of few devices that allow me to have uk and usa apps together well worth the £50 i paid like you i got my box in black friday sales lol.

Mad Max 17-03-2017 19:49

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I was thinking of taking up the one month free trial of Amazon Prime via the app on my smart TV, I saw on their site that they had season 3 of Ray Donovan which we haven't watched yet, we saw the first two seasons, but when I go to the Amazon Prime site it looks as if they charge you per episode, about £2.50 or thereabouts, anyone have Amazon Prime?

muppetman11 17-03-2017 19:53

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Series 3 of Ray Donovan is showing as included with my Amazon Prime sub.

Mad Max 17-03-2017 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35890503)
Series 3 of Ray Donovan is showing as included with my Amazon Prime sub.


Just saw that mate, thx, was looking to see if they were showing Billions, but that doesn't seem to be available on the 30 day free trial.

OLD BOY 17-03-2017 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888007)
Certainly not the rubbish, Max! However, as the Pay TV channels offer less and less by way of good quality dramas and entertainment, I am sure I will be looking for cheaper ways to access whatever is left that is worth watching in the not too distant future, unless something changes for the better.

Next week, the only programmes I have selected from the Sky channels to record on my V6 are:

Madam Secretary (Sky 1)
Limitless (Sky 2)
Lucky Man (Sky 1)
Shades of Blue (Sky Living)
The Catch (Sky Living)
The Blacklist (Sky 1)
24: Legacy (Fox)
Legion (Fox)
Bull (Fox)
Quantico (Alibi)

Now, considering we are in peak season, that's not exactly mind boggling, is it? This compares with 14 dramas on the terrestrials (plus other programmes, such as Question Time), for which I don't pay. It makes me wonder if I can justify continuing my subscription to the pay channels sometimes, and the position seems to be getting worse.

Seems like I'm not the only one who is underwhelmed by Sky programming.

http://m.londonlovesbusiness.com/bus...lesite=enabled

Chad 17-03-2017 23:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35890505)
Seems like I'm not the only one who is underwhelmed by Sky programming.

http://m.londonlovesbusiness.com/bus...lesite=enabled

Yet there's still nearly 11 million people paying a monthly subscription. What's wrong with the British public? Too much money and not enough sense. Most are probably only paying to use the PVR facility and catch up service without noticing they are rarely watching actual pay TV content.

denphone 18-03-2017 06:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35890532)
Yet there's still nearly 11 million people paying a monthly subscription. What's wrong with the British public? Too much money and not enough sense. Most are probably only paying to use the PVR facility and catch up service without noticing they are rarely watching actual pay TV content.

That is a bit harsh Chad calling the British public stupid.;)

bubblegun 18-03-2017 07:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35890532)
Yet there's still nearly 11 million people paying a monthly subscription. What's wrong with the British public? Too much money and not enough sense. Most are probably only paying to use the PVR facility and catch up service without noticing they are rarely watching actual pay TV content.

What's the Virgin stats?

Are they equally stupid?

Probably given the amount of people who leave Sky for Virgin media's £29 deal for 70 channels when they get 240 channels on Sky just by cancelling their TV never mind the phone and broadband.

passingbat 18-03-2017 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35890505)
Seems like I'm not the only one who is underwhelmed by Sky programming.

http://m.londonlovesbusiness.com/bus...lesite=enabled

Quote:

The ten most watched programmes with Sky customers based on viewing figures in 2016 (and the top ranking show exclusive to Sky)
RankProgrammeChannelSky customer viewers in ms
1stThe Great British Bake Off BBC15.37m
2ndI’m a Celebrity – Get Me out of HereITV15.26m
3rdBritain’s Got TalentITV14.78m
4thEuro 2016: Portugal v FranceBBC14.5m
5thStrictly Come Dancing finalBBC14.16m
6thPlanet Earth IIBBC14.07m
7thThe X FactorITV13.99m
8thNew Year’s Eve FireworksBBC13.83m
9thMrs Brown’s Boys: Xmas SpecialBBC13.82m
10thEastEndersBBC13.7m58thGame of ThronesSky Atlantic2m


I watch none of those

denphone 18-03-2017 08:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890551)
I watch none of those

l don't either apart from the football but many do and we should not decry that PB.

passingbat 18-03-2017 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35890552)
l don't either apart from the football but many do and we should not decry that PB.


I don't see where I was decrying it.


OB seemed to be effectively making the point that the most viewed shows were on Freeview, and in comparison, Sky was underwhelming


Quote:

Seems like I'm not the only one who is underwhelmed by Sky programming..
I was pointing out that for some people that is not the case.

denphone 18-03-2017 08:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890553)
I don't see where I was decrying it.


OB seemed to be effectively making the point that the most viewed shows were on Freeview, and in comparison, Sky was underwhelming



I was pointing out that for some people that is not the case.

l never said that it was you specifically PB but many others will decry what some people watch.:)

muppetman11 18-03-2017 11:33

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Sky and other pay tv broadcasters buy content and whilst they actively monitor overnights they also look at content across many other factors such as catch up , box sets , repeat airings then a couple of years down the line when they air it on their FTA channels like Pick.

OLD BOY 18-03-2017 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890551)
I watch none of those

Nor me, although I do occasionally watch Planet Earth.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35890566)
Sky and other pay tv broadcasters buy content and whilst they actively monitor overnights they also look at content across many other factors such as catch up , box sets , repeat airings then a couple of years down the line when they air it on their FTA channels like Pick.

Still, that list of the most watched shows is embarrassing, and the fact that even when you pay for TV, you have to really hunt for the good stuff, makes you wonder whether it is really worth it.

No wonder the cord cutters are increasing in number. In about 5 or so years' time, I may well be one of them unless things improve.

muppetman11 18-03-2017 12:06

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Let's just say looking at that lists Top 10 I'm glad I don't base my viewing on overnight figures.;)

denphone 18-03-2017 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35890569)
Nor me, although I do occasionally watch Planet Earth.[COLOR="Silver"]


Still, that list of the most watched shows is embarrassing, and the fact that even when you pay for TV, you have to really hunt for the good stuff, makes you wonder whether it is really worth it.

Well if you open your rose tinted eyes a bit more and look there is plenty of stuff not on that list that you would like OB.;)

OLD BOY 18-03-2017 12:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35890578)
Well if you open your rose tinted eyes a bit more and look there is plenty of stuff not on that list that you would like OB.;)

Yes, and I am recording them already! However, I have been shocked this year about just how few shows there are that are worth recording compared with previous years.

muppetman11 18-03-2017 12:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35890578)
Well if you open your rose tinted eyes a bit more and look there is plenty of stuff not on that list that you would like OB.;)

According to OB Sky and Virgin may as well shut up shop now.:D

denphone 18-03-2017 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35890583)
According to OB Sky and Virgin may as well shut up shop now.:D

He is what l call a one policy politician.;):D

theone2k10 18-03-2017 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35890397)
The reason i went with 2 Fire Sticks is i got them on Black Friday for £25 each and this was before i knew Kodi could be installed on them. :)

Keep your eye on windows tv boxes mate these are coming on leaps and bounds, i'm getting one soon i'll post a short review when i do.

OLD BOY 18-03-2017 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35890587)
Keep your eye on windows tv boxes mate these are coming on leaps and bounds, i'm getting one soon i'll post a short review when i do.

I look forward to reading your review, theone! Be sure to tell us about the content, so we can see if we're missing anything important!

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35890585)
He is what l call a one policy politician.;):D

Better to be forward rather than backward looking, Den. I'm definitely not one for getting stuck in the mud!

passingbat 18-03-2017 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35890589)
Be sure to tell us about the content, so we can see if we're missing anything important!

!


The content will be exactly the same as you can get on your PC now. It's the hardware theone is taking about.

theone2k10 18-03-2017 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890598)
The content will be exactly the same as you can get on your PC now. It's the hardware theone is taking about.

This, any app/content you get on your pc you will get on the windows tv box, the windows tv box i'm looking at is a Cenovo yes cenovo not lenovo lol it has decent specs for media atom processor, 4gb ram, 64gb storage, 2x usb3 plus hdmi port and micro sd slot supporting upto 128gb.

passingbat 18-03-2017 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35890601)
This, any app/content you get on your pc you will get on the windows tv box, the windows tv box i'm looking at is a Cenovo yes cenovo not lenovo lol it has decent specs for media atom processor, 4gb ram, 64gb storage, 2x usb3 plus hdmi port and micro sd slot supporting upto 128gb.


There are a lot of these kind of devices around ATM, either in stick form or small form factor boxes.

BenMcr 01-04-2017 14:01

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I'm opted in to the iPlayer beta on my Samsung TV. It's now got an option to Sign In to your BBC account.

The option isn't yet showing up on either TiVo or V6 even when on the beta option.

alwaysabear 01-04-2017 18:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35892780)
I'm opted in to the iPlayer beta on my Samsung TV. It's now got an option to Sign In to your BBC account.

The option isn't yet showing up on either TiVo or V6 even when on the beta option.

Thanks Ben just signed in myself on my Samsung.

jodash 02-04-2017 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890551)
I watch none of those

I watch the football and that's it

muppetman11 02-04-2017 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35892780)
I'm opted in to the iPlayer beta on my Samsung TV. It's now got an option to Sign In to your BBC account.

The option isn't yet showing up on either TiVo or V6 even when on the beta option.

The same option is available on our TV and also on our retail Youview box.

johnathome 03-04-2017 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35892780)
I'm opted in to the iPlayer beta on my Samsung TV. It's now got an option to Sign In to your BBC account.

The option isn't yet showing up on either TiVo or V6 even when on the beta option.

Is it a BBC store account or something to do with the paying of a licence?

BenMcr 03-04-2017 18:15

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It's eventually to do with paying of a licence - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37477229

But as it's not yet mandatory or on all TV devices, for now its main function is to finally sync your viewing between all your iPlayer devices.

I suppose it's possible that once it is mandatory and for all devices, then iPlayer and BBC Store might start merging together. All depends what the BBC is allowed to do for that.

theone2k10 03-04-2017 23:21

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Heard a rumour that BT are interested in getting WWE Network on their channel list as a channel and including it in BT sports pack.
Anyone know any more?

denphone 04-04-2017 06:12

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No is the answer to that..

muppetman11 06-04-2017 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35890397)
The reason i went with 2 Fire Sticks is i got them on Black Friday for £25 each and this was before i knew Kodi could be installed on them. :)

The new Amazon Fire stick released today is superb much better than the original one.

SnoopZ 06-04-2017 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35893537)
The new Amazon Fire stick released today is superb much better than the original one.

In what way, i only use it for Kodi now since cancelling Netflix?

muppetman11 06-04-2017 14:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35893539)
In what way, i only use it for Kodi now since cancelling Netflix?

Don't get me wrong the old one is ok however in my opinion its very sluggish in operation I've noticed issues from time to time with lag when pressing on the remote.

The new stick has greater tech specs and also comes with the new UI out the box , I'm sure PB has mentioned all sticks will eventually get this.

passingbat 06-04-2017 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35893558)

also comes with the new UI out the box , I'm sure PB has mentioned all sticks will eventually get this.


I've read mixed views on the new UI. What is your opinion? (I'm still on the old one)

muppetman11 06-04-2017 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35893561)
I've read mixed views on the new UI. What is your opinion? (I'm still on the old one)

I prefer it and as I say the new stick with Alex's is far more fluid to use none of the lag of the previous version. The new stick has 8GB storage , 1GB memory , a Quad core processor and 802.11ac Wi-Fi.

OLD BOY 06-04-2017 16:24

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I have a Roku stick, which gives me access to countless streaming services. Most are US rubbish of course, but all the common streaming channels (Amazon, Netflix, Now TV and the various players) are all on there.

Is it worth my while getting the new Amazon stick as well, or are the content choices pretty well the same? Does anyone know?

RichardCoulter 06-04-2017 19:11

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This might be useful for those not sure which service has a programme that they want to watch:

https://www.justwatch.com/uk

passingbat 06-04-2017 19:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35893565)
I have a Roku stick, which gives me access to countless streaming services. Most are US rubbish of course, but all the common streaming channels (Amazon, Netflix, Now TV and the various players) are all on there.

Is it worth my while getting the new Amazon stick as well, or are the content choices pretty well the same? Does anyone know?


Amazon stick does not have Now TV. Off hand, I can think of no reason to add a Fire Stick.


In my lounge, where I have both a Fire TV box and Roku 2, I often use the Roku box over AFT box for Netflix and Amazon content

Kabaal 06-04-2017 19:33

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Bah, Netflix got the stupid auto-trailers on the PS4 now. Still don't have them on the Fire TV yet so there's that at least, hopefully it never gets them. They're really annoying.

muppetman11 06-04-2017 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35893589)
Bah, Netflix got the stupid auto-trailers on the PS4 now. Still don't have them on the Fire TV yet so there's that at least, hopefully it never gets them. They're really annoying.

They've not arrived on my PS4 yet.

theone2k10 06-04-2017 21:34

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Only USA for now but youtube tv is now live https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/

Kabaal 06-04-2017 22:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35893609)
They've not arrived on my PS4 yet.

Appeared on mine today along with the new thumbs up/down thing.

pengedragon 14-04-2017 12:42

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6 months entertainment pass for now tv 20 quid at argos at the moment, should there be anything on sky atlantic you fancy

passingbat 16-04-2017 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35893537)
The new Amazon Fire stick released today is superb much better than the original one.


New interface with Alexa just been updated on my gen 1 FTV box. Not checked it out yet.

SnoopZ 16-04-2017 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35893537)
The new Amazon Fire stick released today is superb much better than the original one.

What should i buy, the new stick the new Amazon Fire TV box or a dedicated kodi box, i will use Kodi on them?

passingbat 16-04-2017 22:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35894998)
What should i buy, the new stick the new Amazon Fire TV box or a dedicated kodi box, i will use Kodi on them?


FTV box gives you the choice of Ethernet or wifi. Stick is wifi only.

muppetman11 16-04-2017 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894994)
New interface with Alexa just been updated on my gen 1 FTV box. Not checked it out yet.

I much prefer the new UI over the old one but I suppose that's just personal preference.
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35894998)
What should i buy, the new stick the new Amazon Fire TV box or a dedicated kodi box, i will use Kodi on them?

I don't use Kodi so I'm not much help there I'm afraid.

passingbat 16-04-2017 23:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894994)
New interface with Alexa just been updated on my gen 1 FTV box. Not checked it out yet.


They are updating progressively; bedroom FTV box still on old interface.


BTW Kodi can be installed on FTV.

OLD BOY 17-04-2017 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35893589)
Bah, Netflix got the stupid auto-trailers on the PS4 now. Still don't have them on the Fire TV yet so there's that at least, hopefully it never gets them. They're really annoying.

Are you able to fast forward the trailers or are they unskippable?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35895020)
I much prefer the new UI over the old one but I suppose that's just personal preference.

I don't use Kodi so I'm not much help there I'm afraid.

I have used the Kodi on my smart TV, but I must say I am underwhelmed. It's fiddly to use and the add ons are not worth the effort. I guess it's only really useful if you have a vpn and you want to access channels you shouldn't!

SnoopZ 17-04-2017 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35895073)
Are you able to fast forward the trailers or are they unskippable?

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I have used the Kodi on my smart TV, but I must say I am underwhelmed. It's fiddly to use and the add ons are not worth the effort. I guess it's only really useful if you have a vpn and you want to access channels you shouldn't!


In my experience the add ons i use make it far better than Netflix, unless you're talking about live tv?

passingbat 17-04-2017 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35895073)
. I guess it's only really useful if you have a vpn and you want to access channels you shouldn't!


Or used, as intended, for streaming your personal ripped DVDs

OLD BOY 17-04-2017 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35895081)
In my experience the add ons i use make it far better than Netflix, unless you're talking about live tv?

I am going to attempt to load Exodus onto it, which is recommended as one of the best add-ons, but if that gives me rubbish results, I'm giving up with Kodi.

Perhaps a Kodi box is what is really needed, rather than the smart Sony TV app, but my experience so far has put me right off! I'm not interested in using nefarious means to access content, so I guess Kodi is not for me.

passingbat 17-04-2017 12:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35895085)
I'm not interested in using nefarious means to access content, so I guess Kodi is not for me.


Unless you have DVDs that you have ripped, then you are right, Kodi is of no use to you. Pretty much all the legitimate apps on Kodi, you will have access to on your other devices.


Much of my personal DVD collection is ripped, so Kodi is useful to me for viewing those.

theone2k10 17-04-2017 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35895085)
I am going to attempt to load Exodus onto it, which is recommended as one of the best add-ons, but if that gives me rubbish results, I'm giving up with Kodi.

Perhaps a Kodi box is what is really needed, rather than the smart Sony TV app, but my experience so far has put me right off! I'm not interested in using nefarious means to access content, so I guess Kodi is not for me.

But you're trying to install exodus hmmmm.
For a start i can tell you now bud that without a vpn you are going to find a lot of exodus links blocked by vm also to really get most out of kodi you need to turn of vms security whatever they call it you can do it on your account online i believe, i had to do same with BT and SKY.

There are plenty of perfect legal apps in the kodis repo itself and they are trying to work with tv providers to get more.

OLD BOY 17-04-2017 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35895101)
But you're trying to install exodus hmmmm.
For a start i can tell you now bud that without a vpn you are going to find a lot of exodus links blocked by vm also to really get most out of kodi you need to turn of vms security whatever they call it you can do it on your account online i believe, i had to do same with BT and SKY.

There are plenty of perfect legal apps in the kodis repo itself and they are trying to work with tv providers to get more.

In which case, my mind's made up, thank you, theone!

I found I couldn't get into quite a few add-ons, which made the whole experience a fiddle. Not for me, the Kodi, I'm afraid, it's just not worth the effort for the little that is available legally.

muppetman11 20-04-2017 10:48

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Sky announces HBO co-production deal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39651301

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Dave broadcaster UKTV boosts on-demand programming on new Sky deal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-new-sky-deal/

Mad Max 20-04-2017 14:58

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Anyone on here use Amazon Prime? The reason I ask is this, I have had it for just over a month and have watched some really good shows, but today I was messing about with what they had to offer in 4K UHD, there was quite a good selection, but on selecting some of them in 4K UHD the picture quality was very dark indeed, almost unwatchable actually, so I had a look around the net via google, and found that there have been a lot of complaints about this from other Amazon Prime users, and this was with different makes of TV too.
There doesn't seem to be any trouble with 4K UHD from Netlfix, anyone got any idea as to why this is?


Thx

ozsat 20-04-2017 15:07

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I've not noticed anything on the little Amazon Prime UHD content I have watched.

But then as Amazon charge you a subscription to be a Prime customer and then charge extra for viewing programming - I don't watch much on there.

If you post some free titles I'll have a look.

Mad Max 20-04-2017 15:10

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One was the tour, with Clarkson et al in it, I tried others too, just randomly, but just the same, very dark

ozsat 20-04-2017 16:13

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I've watch most of the Grand Tour and not seen any issues with that - it may be the tv needs calibrating for that input.

Chad 28-04-2017 20:29

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TV Player Plus now available on ROKU. Thta's Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, NOW TV and the freeview catch up services all available on one device.

OLD BOY 29-04-2017 01:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35896707)
TV Player Plus now available on ROKU. Thta's Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, NOW TV and the freeview catch up services all available on one device.

That is right. So where is Virgin Media in this competition?

They really need to step up and increase drastically the amount of streaming services available on the V6. Amazon and Now TV would be a good start.

love Virgin2013 29-04-2017 05:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35896707)
TV Player Plus now available on ROKU. Thta's Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, NOW TV and the freeview catch up services all available on one device.

on TV player plus can you watch Eurosport on Roku?

buckeye 29-04-2017 12:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35896707)
TV Player Plus now available on ROKU. Thta's Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, NOW TV and the freeview catch up services all available on one device.

Do any Roku devices allow 50 Hz video output yet?
If not I wouldn't want to use one for British TV.
Also do Roku's offer Netflix and Amazon Instant Video in 1080P with DD+ sound? I understand Netflix are quite restrictive on who they certify for this and am unsure if Roku is one that has their blessing.

passingbat 29-04-2017 12:52

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35896762)
Do any Roku devices allow 50 Hz video output yet?
If not I wouldn't want to use one for British TV.
Also do Roku's offer Netflix and Amazon Instant Video in 1080P with DD+ sound? I understand Netflix are quite restrictive on who they certify for this and am unsure if Roku is one that has their blessing.


Yes (Roku 2). Can't see a setting on Roku 2 for frame rate.

theone2k10 29-04-2017 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35896707)
TV Player Plus now available on ROKU. Thta's Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, NOW TV and the freeview catch up services all available on one device.

Tvplayer also on kodi although it's in a questionable repo tvplayer are fully behind it and are working to get tv playerplus intergrated too, they're working with the repo developer.

pip08456 29-04-2017 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35896768)
Tvplayer also on kodi although it's in a questionable repo tvplayer are fully behind it and are working to get tv playerplus intergrated too, they're working with the repo developer.

It's not questionable at all. In Kodi you have to enter your user name and password for the addon to work.

theone2k10 29-04-2017 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35896772)
It's not questionable at all. In Kodi you have to enter your user name and password for the addon to work.

Thanks for update i thought the repo not addon was questionable as it's xunitytalk but judging by what you've posted it seems it's perfectly fine.

buckeye 30-04-2017 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35896784)
Thanks for update i thought the repo not addon was questionable as it's xunitytalk but judging by what you've posted it seems it's perfectly fine.

That repo is questionable, the main protagonist has carried out several shady acts over the years.
If you must use one of the addons from it I would advise installing only the addon you want from a zip file and never install the repo itself.

Its also worth noting the repo and the aforementioned main protagonist behind it are banned from the Kodi forums so if you ever go there for help and they see the repo or any of its addons in your log file you will immediately be told to delete it all before they will help.

OLD BOY 30-04-2017 12:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35896876)
That repo is questionable, the main protagonist has carried out several shady acts over the years.
If you must use one of the addons from it I would advise installing only the addon you want from a zip file and never install the repo itself.

Its also worth noting the repo and the aforementioned main protagonist behind it are banned from the Kodi forums so if you ever go there for help and they see the repo or any of its addons in your log file you will immediately be told to delete it all before they will help.

Well, that certainly seems a questionable addon to me! theone was right first time.

theone2k10 30-04-2017 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35896894)
Well, that certainly seems a questionable addon to me! theone was right first time.

In fairness kodi themselves are trying to get networks to work with them to get legit addons on the kodi platform, One i use ok it requires a smart dns or vpn and a USA tv login is the NBCsports addon which is in the actual kodi repo so perfectly legit and the pic quality is superb.

1andrew1 30-04-2017 14:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35896904)
In fairness kodi themselves are trying to get networks to work with them to get legit addons on the kodi platform, One i use ok it requires a smart dns or vpn and a USA tv login is the NBCsports addon which is in the actual kodi repo so perfectly legit and the pic quality is superb.

I think Kodi is targeting the legitimate market more heavily now following the recent ruling that streaming pirated content is just as illegal as downloading such content. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/kodi-up...video-10305875

theone2k10 30-04-2017 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35896909)
I think Kodi is targeting the legitimate market more heavily now following the recent ruling that streaming pirated content is just as illegal as downloading such content. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/kodi-up...video-10305875

Yeah they have confirmed this on twitter too hinting they may introduce light DRM so legit tv network addons and netflix etc will work with kodi, but being light drm means it won't affect any media such as ripped dvds being played over kodi etc.

muppetman11 05-05-2017 11:35

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Just a heads up for anyone with Apple devices , Apple now seem to be offering a new HD movie to rent each Tuesday for £1.99.

muppetman11 05-05-2017 19:53

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Amazon and Apple finally playing nicely, Amazon Video coming to Apple TV ?

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1409...ng-to-apple-tv

---------- Post added at 18:53 ---------- Previous post was at 18:44 ----------

YouTube takes on Netflix and Amazon with 40 new original shows

http://www.techradar.com/news/youtub...original-shows

heavyside 08-05-2017 08:31

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I've noticed a difference in BBC iPlayer behaviour on both my V6s lately. The screen now goes black when the red button is selected rather than the picture continuing to play in the background as it loads. Same thing when exiting. Seems like a step backwards to me.

Onramp 08-05-2017 09:22

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Is BBC OTT-only on VM? Or is it actually broadcast also?

spiderplant 08-05-2017 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Onramp (Post 35897942)
Is BBC OTT-only on VM? Or is it actually broadcast also?

It's QAM VOD for the non-TiVo boxes as they don't support OTT

muppetman11 09-05-2017 11:05

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Amazon's latest Prime incentive is exclusive music concerts

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/09/...ents-music-uk/

BenMcr 09-05-2017 11:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35897938)
I've noticed a difference in BBC iPlayer behaviour on both my V6s lately. The screen now goes black when the red button is selected rather than the picture continuing to play in the background as it loads. Same thing when exiting. Seems like a step backwards to me.

I don't believe that's by design, so I'd expect it's being looked into to fix.

denphone 09-05-2017 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35898119)
Amazon's latest Prime incentive is exclusive music concerts

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/09/...ents-music-uk/

Well we are Prime members and we love our music so we will certainly be watching some of the concerts of artists we like.

heavyside 09-05-2017 12:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35898120)
I don't believe that's by design, so I'd expect it's being looked into to fix.

Lo and behold, I tried iPlayer yesterday evening via the red button and it was back to normal. Must have been a glitch.

Mad Max 09-05-2017 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35898127)
Well we are Prime members and we love our music so we will certainly be watching some of the concerts of artists we like.


I've had the month's trial with Amazon and I'm now on a second month (paying of course) as we were watching a series called "The Following" but I've noticed a reduction in the PQ from Amazon, especially in darker scenes where there's quite a lot of "noise", it's not the TV as I don't have this issue with any other channels. So I had a look online and this issue seems to be affecting quite a lot of people, could Amazon be deliberately dumbing down the PQ in order to get people to pay for UHD PQ?

passingbat 09-05-2017 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35898193)
could Amazon be deliberately dumbing down the PQ in order to get people to pay for UHD PQ?


I didn't think there was an extra charge for UHD on Amazon?

muppetman11 09-05-2017 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35898198)
I didn't think there was an extra charge for UHD on Amazon?

There isn't it's included with your Prime subscription.

denphone 09-05-2017 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35898193)
I've had the month's trial with Amazon and I'm now on a second month (paying of course) as we were watching a series called "The Following" but I've noticed a reduction in the PQ from Amazon, especially in darker scenes where there's quite a lot of "noise", it's not the TV as I don't have this issue with any other channels. So I had a look online and this issue seems to be affecting quite a lot of people, could Amazon be deliberately dumbing down the PQ in order to get people to pay for UHD PQ?

That is the vexed question as perhaps some of the wise sages of this forum might know more.

passingbat 09-05-2017 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35898202)
That is the vexed question as perhaps some of the wise sages of this forum might know more.


Not really. If UHD is free, poor HD can't be used to lure people to pay extra for UHD.


I find HD Amazon fine.

Mad Max 09-05-2017 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35898198)
I didn't think there was an extra charge for UHD on Amazon?

I thought I saw them advertising UHD at a higher price, maybe not!

theone2k10 09-05-2017 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35898209)
I thought I saw them advertising UHD at a higher price, maybe not!

Might of been Netflix you saw UHD at a higher price mate as UHD is only available in Netflix top pack, it is included as standard with Amazon when available.
The PQ drop could be a number of factors such as connection to your device especially id wireless or even something simple on a computer such as a plugin not working on your browser.

Mad Max 10-05-2017 00:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35898220)
Might of been Netflix you saw UHD at a higher price mate as UHD is only available in Netflix top pack, it is included as standard with Amazon when available.
The PQ drop could be a number of factors such as connection to your device especially id wireless or even something simple on a computer such as a plugin not working on your browser.

Yes, may have been Netflix right enough mate, but we just watched a Netflix program tonight and it was perfect, only ever seems to be a problem with Amazon..

johnathome 10-05-2017 00:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35898232)
Yes, may have been Netflix right enough mate, but we just watched a Netflix program tonight and it was perfect, only ever seems to be a problem with Amazon..

I'm sure i saw something when Netflix first appeared on Tivo about them getting installed on headends or something so the download path was shorter?

SnoopZ 10-05-2017 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35898232)
Yes, may have been Netflix right enough mate, but we just watched a Netflix program tonight and it was perfect, only ever seems to be a problem with Amazon..

My free Amazon UHD broadcasts have always looked perfect on my KS9000, so Amazon must be hit and miss for some people and this maybe the quality of the internet connection.

As previously said it is Netflix that charge for UHD.

muppetman11 10-05-2017 14:21

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Facebook's original shows could be arriving next month

http://www.techradar.com/news/facebo...ing-next-month

Chad 11-05-2017 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35898119)
Amazon's latest Prime incentive is exclusive music concerts

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/09/...ents-music-uk/

Not impressed. These are "intimate gigs" exclusive to Amazon Prime Members yet the ticket prices are ridiculous. £150.00 for the Blondie gig plus it's all being filmed and photgraphed for their streaming service. Not very intimate.

https://tickets.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071...T17:30:00.000Z

johnathome 12-05-2017 01:29

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If you watched Blondie at Glastonbury last year or listened to them on Radio 2 last week you wouldn't pay £1.50 to see them, truly awful, it saddens me to say that as well :(

The first album i bought of there's was Plastic Letters.


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