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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36062233)

Dream on :p:

Yup, it hasn't to date.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36062152)

Did the EU simply hand over a lump sum to Cornwall, or was it piecemeal for each project? You can't look at one figure in isolation as being the total figure.

Just catching up after a couple of days off ;)

You can see what the EU has invested in here. Cornwall for some reason is split in to two but you can zoom in to see details. A hell of a lot seems to be structural funding to diversify businesses in the area. I have seem the same where a relative lives in rural Scotland.

On the France-Ireland ferry thing, there is a huge sigh of relief from my customers on this as a lot of goods we ship cannot be shipped by air (too big, too hazardous or both) It will probably add an extra day of shipping but the feedback is that it's manageable. Cork and Dublin are the hearts of my industry too!

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

Prediction by Gideon Rachman of the Financial Times

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When an agreement is reached, it will largely be on Europe’s terms. The EU will doubtless makes some concessions on fisheries as part of last-minute haggling. But Britain will have to agree to the EU’s central demand, which is that there must be “level-playing field” rules — ensuring that the UK cannot undercut EU regulations on competition at will.

The reason that the deal will be done on the EU’s terms is the same reason why the whole Brexit process has been so painful for Britain — a fundamental asymmetry in power between the two sides. Britain sends 43 per cent of its exports to the EU; Germany, France and Italy all send around 6 per cent of their exports to Britain. The population of the UK is nearly 67m; that of the EU is 447m. Even without Britain, the EU has a single market comparable in size to that of the US or China.

Mr Johnson insists that the UK and the EU are “sovereign equals”. But, as long as the EU maintains its unity, they are not equals in terms of power. And that is what has mattered in these negotiations.

https://www.ft.com/content/955dc9c9-...b-ef28c9f70e2c

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36062239)

Always good to hear a range of views, particularly from those at the coal face. :tu:

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36062266)

Prediction by Gideon Rachman of the Financial Times

https://www.ft.com/content/955dc9c9-...b-ef28c9f70e2c[COLOR="Silver"]

Guesswork, opinion piece.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36062269)

Guesswork, opinion piece.

An opinion piece that's being quite flagrantly selective with its statistics as well. Shocking from the likes of the FT.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36062270)

An opinion piece that's being quite flagrantly selective with its statistics as well. Shocking from the likes of the FT.

Pro eu rag in shock anti brexit opinion piece release.

Can't believe there are brain deads out there that lap this bolleaux up ad nauseum.....

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36062272)

Pro eu rag in shock anti brexit opinion piece release.

Can't believe there are brain deads out there that lap this bolleaux up ad nauseum.....

Guess you'd believe the Currant Bun/Daily Fail more than the Financial Times ? Each to their own.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36062273)

Guess you'd believe the Currant Bun/Daily Fail more than the Financial Times ? Each to their own.

Yours will be the Morning Star no doubt.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36062272)

Pro eu rag in shock anti brexit opinion piece release.

Can't believe there are brain deads out there that lap this bolleaux up ad nauseum.....

To pretend that the EU doesn't hold the upper hand is at the very best naive.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36062282)

To pretend that the EU doesn't hold the upper hand is at the very best naive.

Why don't they walk away then?

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36062284)

Why don't they walk away then?

Just because you hold the upper hand, it doesn't follow that you walk away from negotiating a deal.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36062285)

Just because you hold the upper hand, it doesn't follow that you walk away from negotiating a deal.

But we are nothing to them, we are but mere ants mesmerised by their omnipotence, they don't need us............

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36062287)

But we are nothing to them, we are but mere ants mesmerised by their omnipotence, they don't need us............

No, but the Single Market is worth more to them than trading with us on a Tariff-free basis.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36062284)

Why don't they walk away then?

No one would say that the EU nations would not be negatively impacted, of course they will. A deal suits everyone here