Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

Not necessarily. Most international trade deals are based to a greater or lesser extent on mutual recognition of standards rather than agreement of a common standard, or one side adopting the other’s. It’s possible that import of products may be tariff free *if* they comply with UK standards but it’s more likely that the mutual recognition route has been taken.

TheDaddy

05-04-2023 20:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36149359)

We set the food standards for food imported into the country. It is up to the exporters to meet those standards.

:rofl:

suppliers are actually passing on rotten meat to supermarkets, are they the standards that have to be met

1andrew1

05-04-2023 22:06

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36149363)

:rofl:

suppliers are actually passing on rotten meat to supermarkets, are they the standards that have to be met

You need to believe in Brexit a bit more and that rotten meat will become farm fresh and those brown cod in the sea will become angelfish. It is the fault of non-believers like you who are lowering standards by talking Brexit down.

tweetiepooh

06-04-2023 10:06

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And even if supplier import eggs will the public buy them? Will they buy products made from them?

1andrew1

06-04-2023 10:15

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36149390)

And even if supplier import eggs will the public buy them? Will they buy products made from them?

Most people won't know the eggs' country of origin or caged/uncaged status if they buy the eggs as part of another product from a supermarket or restaurant.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36149359)

We set the food standards for food imported into the country. It is up to the exporters to meet those standards.

I believe it's unelected civil servants and ministers who made the egg decisions

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The British Egg Industry Council (BEIC) met trade and Defra ministers on Monday (3 April), arguing that import tariffs should be retained as Mexico produces 99% of its eggs in cages – a system that was banned in the UK on cruelty grounds in 2012.

“Unfortunately, animal welfare standards did not hold sway,” said BEIC chief executive Mark Williams. “Government instead chose to prioritise economics over animal welfare.

“Negotiators worked on the basis that, as Mexico does not currently export to the UK, they are not a threat. They have missed the point that it is not today’s trade we have concerns about, but future trade.”

The UK’s chief negotiator suggested that the UK could use a bilateral trade deal with Mexico to encourage higher standards in that country.

“We can only be sceptical of the chances for progress as Mexico is a 99% conventional cage industry,” said Mr Williams.

https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/poul...new-trade-deal

OLD BOY

07-04-2023 16:04

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36149362)

Not necessarily. Most international trade deals are based to a greater or lesser extent on mutual recognition of standards rather than agreement of a common standard, or one side adopting the other’s. It’s possible that import of products may be tariff free *if* they comply with UK standards but it’s more likely that the mutual recognition route has been taken.

We should tell the EU that, I think. :erm:

Ms NTL

10-04-2023 13:04

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Half of my family now has EU id cards --more to follow. At the French, Italian and Greek borders, we were told to use the ID card to go in & out of the EU countries, instead of the well respected blue passport. We will not be monitored, they said. Probably something to do with the 90 days rule.

The Italian border control guy, said to my son (jokingly) "Asylum seeker?" when he saw the blue passport". They spoke in italian, I do not speak the lingo, but they seemed to take the piss out of the situation.

My son just told me he replied to the control guy "Bunga bunga seeker", bloody children!

ianch99

11-04-2023 18:11

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Surely not?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65240749

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The UK is set to be one of the worst performing major economies in the world this year, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

It says the UK economy's performance in 2023 will be the worst among the 20 biggest economies, known as the G20, which includes sanctions-hit Russia.

1andrew1

11-04-2023 18:47

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36149702)

Surely not?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65240749

Never mind us being the sick man of the G7, just feel the GDP increase of 0.08% wafting across the country due to the new deal. Can't feel it? This might be why!

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Officials working on the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) deal changed their usual approach to calculating the GDP figure and instead used a new model that “generates larger estimated GDP impacts”, according to the government’s own documentation.

Sam Lowe, a trade expert and senior visiting fellow at the King's Policy Institute, told The Independent: "While the approach the government has taken is perfectly credible, the change in methodology does seem to have been made with the intention of making the GDP figure sound more impressive."

Nick Thomas-Symonds, the shadow international trade secretary, described the government record on trade as “lamentable”.

“No wonder they feel the need to present figures in the most favourable way they can find. The OBR predict a 6.6 per cent fall in exports in 2023, a hit of over £51bn to the UK economy. That hammers UK growth and will make the cost of living crisis even worse.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2313359.html

Pierre

11-04-2023 22:50

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Always lovely to see Andrew and Ian [Mod Edit - unnecessary crudity removed - repetition of this language will incur infractions] frothing at the mouth over the potential collapse of the U.K. economy.

Still the IMF are very good aren’t they? So they’re probably right….right?

https://www.ft.com/content/60581224-...f-23cb17fd1498

https://www.reuters.com/breakingview...ed-2022-01-25/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...wrong-economy/

https://twitter.com/samanthataghoy/s...EjG2H-W-Bot21g

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-imf-forecasts/

https://www.bruegel.org/comment/imfs-false-confession

ianch99

12-04-2023 11:33

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36149729)

You actually enjoy being told that the country has been trashed by the Vote Leave Tory Party? Boy, do you need to get out more.

Mick	12-04-2023 12:37

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IMF are Anti-Brexit fools, not to be listened to.

denphone

12-04-2023 12:54

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They might be Anti-Brexit but the very common sentiment even from those who supported Brexit is it has been a unmitigated disaster.

Ms NTL

12-04-2023 12:55

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36149757)

IMF are Anti-Brexit fools, not to be listened to.

Do you imply that the (majority of the?) planet thinks Brexit is stupid, as you call IMF "anti-brexit fools".... Here is the composition of IMF:

https://www.imf.org/en/About/executi...s-voting-power

ianch99

12-04-2023 13:21

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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36149761)

Do you imply that the (majority of the?) planet thinks Brexit is stupid, as you call IMF "anti-brexit fools".... Here is the composition of IMF:

https://www.imf.org/en/About/executi...s-voting-power

Maybe the take is if any message is negative about Brexit, it should not be listened to. I guess that is one approach but it denies reality.

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