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Fergie and Moyes are killing Wenger with the budgets they have.

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What budget has Moyes got.:nono:

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That's his point. Moyes does well with a small budget.

I don't think it's a fair point as Wenger clearly over achieves relative to spending and either overachieves or mets the target when it comes to wages. They all sort of end up where their wage bill says they should, including Everton.

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top managers do better. Moyes is in that. Fergie well he's laughing at Arsene really. Wengers dropped off, simple.

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Chelsea and City spend more on wages than Utd. then comes Arsenal. City have recently risen so for the sake of this argument lets remove City so its Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal. Utd have consistently challenged for the title throughout the reigns of the billionaires coming in throwing money around. Arsenal have dropped off. Utd have invested. Arsenal haven't. Utd invested to get out of the huge debt they had mounting. Fergie delivered the goods after that investment. Utds stature and rep increased = more revenue. Arsenal have not had investment as heavily and when they have invested within means the players have dropped off. Fergie would not take some of the crap going on at Arsenal where players are not performing, pretty much half a named squad doing nothing? thats disgraceful. and if you want to look at wage spend work this one out, total up the resources those offering something are taking and you'll probably see our wage spend decreases so yes your right Wenger is overachieving. hes not overachieving if your looking at total spend.

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Arsenal did invest, they built a new stadium. Manchester United haven't invested in their debt, that concept makes no sense. The debt was put onto the club by it's owners to finance the purchase the club and in the last few years they've managed to reduce it via bond issues and the stock floatation. That isn't really investment. In fact United have 'invested' little. What they've done is continue thoughout using their massive revenue which has always been much higher than Arsenals.

United's income, wages and transfer spending are all higher than Arsenals. This isn't because 'they invested in their debt', it's because they've got a much bigger brand than Arsenal. Yet we've made inroads there, we're much more international since Wenger arrived. His era Arsenal team have gained massively in Asia and Africa especially. Only Liverpool and United are bigger names.

Yes he is.

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Anyway we know you think Wenger has lost it and I don't. No point rehashing the same argument again.

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Arsenal invested in a new stadium and have reaped the rewards in increase of revenue.

Utd did bond and all but they had repayments to make, that was clearly worked around so investment could be made into the team. Utd are a cashcow I know but please remember that has increased a lot due to the success Utd have had. The continued back to back cup wins done them no harm at all.

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I don't like listening to this guy but Balague: "Mourinho won't be at R.Madrid next season. The club is already talking with new coaches. PSG are the favourites to get Mourinho."

will Roman take him back?

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Abidal returns to training
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/...ns-to-training

great news.

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Yes it is indeed great news about Eric Abidal.:tu:

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England Under-21s Team: 1 Jason Steele (GK), 2 Adam Smith, 3 Jack Robinson, 4 Josh Mceachran, 5 Andre Wisdom, 6 Craig Dawson, 7 Tom Ince, 8 Jordon Henderson (c), 9 Wilfried Zaha, 10 Jonjo Shelvey, 11 Benik Afobe
Subs: 12 Tom Lees, 13 Declan Rudd (GK), 14 Nat Chalobah, 15 Will Hughes, 16 Henri Lansbury, 17 Jason Lowe, 18 Connor Wickham, 19 Ben Amos (GK)

Sweden Under-21s Team 1 Andreas Linde (GK), 2 Mattias Johansson, 3 Alexander Milosevic, 4 Filip Helander, 5 Tobias Malm, 6 Branimir Hrgota, 7 Joel Allansson, 8 Oscar Hiljemark (c), 9 Mathias Andersson, 10 Christoffer Nyman, 11 Mikael Ishak
Subs: 12 August Stromberg (GK), 13 Jonathan Azulay, 14 Emil Bergstrom, 15 Andreas Blomqvist, 16 Nicklas Barkroth, 17 Sam Larsson, 18 Amin Nazari.


England v Denmark (U19s) teamsheet
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/02/57.jpg

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Brazil XI to face England tomorrow: Cesar; Alves Luiz Dante Adriano; Ramires Paulinho; Oscar Ronaldinho Neymar; Fabiano.

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Lewandowski to Bayern is close
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball...-a-881548.html

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On the matter of the special one l think there is a reasonable chance he could return to Chelsea as Ancelotti will still be at PSG next season.

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Liverpool linked with Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa

http://www.koptalk.co.uk/20130206243...-ben-arfa.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...hatem-ben-arfa

Would be nice if we can get him.

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Mamadou Sakho could move
http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...-in-the-summer

the guy fell off a bit, he was sitting the stands. anyway hes quality, i'd welcome him at Arsenal

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Barca want Mats Hummels in the summer
http://www.football-espana.net/28111...geting-hummels

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Yes indeed Hummels is a very good player and a move to a top european club is very likely.

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nice read..

Siem de jong – Captain of Ajax but a bargain signing in-waiting
afootballfanthinkingaloud.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/siem-de-jong-captain-of-ajax-but-a-bargain-signing-in-waiting/

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Louis Saha joins Lazio as cover for injured striker Miroslav Klose
m.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/06/louis-saha-lazio-miroslav-klose

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Can't see de Jong going for anything less than £10M tbh and that's if Ajax would actually let him go. They'll no doubt already lose Toby Alderweireld and Christian Eriksen in the summer as they can be signed on a pre-contract although they'll probably move immediately for a fee rather than run their contracts down.

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England team to face Brazil (kick off 7.30pm) CONFIRMED England Starting 11: Hart, Johnson, Cahill, Smalling, Cole, Wilshere, Cleverley, Gerrard, Welbeck, Rooney, Walcott