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Mr K 17-02-2018 09:17

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Trump is very big on his 'no collusion' cry, even when not accused of it !
Me thinks he doth protest too much... Possibly in a panic as the net tightens.

passingbat 17-02-2018 10:02

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35937231)

And am I not right in saying that the account of Jesus and the run up to his crucifixion (and of course what happened after this) was committed to paper five generations after it happened?

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The Dating of the Gospels

http://www.bc.edu/schools/stm/crossr...hegospels.html

1andrew1 17-02-2018 10:34

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35937246)
Trump is very big on his 'no collusion' cry, even when not accused of it !
Me thinks he doth protest too much... Possibly in a panic as the net tightens.

Doubtless we will soon see everyone here who said that there was no evidence of Russian manipulation in the US elections to help Trump now apologising for posting false information. ;)
And let's not forget, the report says that Russian involvement to get Trump in power may have been aided by "unwitting individuals" associated with him.
The investigation continues...

Mick 17-02-2018 11:47

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35937246)
Trump is very big on his 'no collusion' cry, even when not accused of it !
Me thinks he doth protest too much... Possibly in a panic as the net tightens.

He has been accused of it many times over by the Democrats and what he calls the Fake News Media, CNN etc, who actually got many stories on him wrong.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937252)
Doubtless we will soon see everyone here who said that there was no evidence of Russian manipulation in the US elections to help Trump now apologising for posting false information. ;)
And let's not forget, the report says that Russian involvement to get Trump in power may have been aided by "unwitting individuals" associated with him.
The investigation continues...

It does actually say in the indictment report that there were Russian campaign groups holding Anti-Trump rallies too. A point you conveniently missed.

But the key information in the reports says none of the interference had any impact on the result! Another point you conveniently decided to miss.

Finally, Your obsession with apologies, is pathetic. Especially where there are none warranted, you never apologise when you’re frequently wrong on this forum, which is quite often, including the above posting, where you have selectively ignored to include relevant stuff, but you haven’t because it does not suit your agenda.

1andrew1 17-02-2018 12:53

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35937265)
He has been accused of it many times over by the Democrats and what he calls the Fake News Media, CNN etc, who actually got many stories on him wrong.

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It does actually say in the indictment report that there were Russian campaign groups holding Anti-Trump rallies too. A point you conveniently missed.

But the key information in the reports says none of the interference had any impact on the result! Another point you conveniently decided to miss.

Finally, Your obsession with apologies, is pathetic. Especially where there are none warranted, you never apologise when you’re frequently wrong on this forum, which is quite often, including the above posting, where you have selectively ignored to include relevant stuff, but you haven’t because it does not suit your agenda.

My post above is totally accurate, and I'm not too proud to apologise when I've got things wrong either.

Mick 17-02-2018 13:18

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937278)
My post above is totally accurate, and I'm not too proud to apologise when I've got things wrong either.

Your post is not accurate at all.

passingbat 17-02-2018 13:41

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937252)
Doubtless we will soon see everyone here who said that there was no evidence of Russian manipulation in the US elections ..

I don't recall that being the controversy; it was about people insisting that Trump was involed. This evidence does not implicate Trump at all.

1andrew1 17-02-2018 15:01

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35937282)
I don't recall that being the controversy; it was about people insisting that Trump was involed. This evidence does not implicate Trump at all.

Let's wait till the investigation is concluded before jumping one way or t'other.

passingbat 17-02-2018 15:29

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937293)
Let's wait till the investigation is concluded before jumping one way or t'other.


Exaxtly what I have been doing and will contine to do. Is that what you have been doing?

1andrew1 17-02-2018 15:38

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35937300)
Exaxtly what I have been doing and will continue to do. Is that what you have been doing?

Indeed.

passingbat 17-02-2018 16:27

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937302)
Indeed.


So, never posted that Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russians?

Damien 17-02-2018 16:40

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35937265)
It does actually say in the indictment report that there were Russian campaign groups holding Anti-Trump rallies too. A point you conveniently missed.
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These were after the election though wasn’t it?

As I’ve said before Russia’s goal isn’t to promote a Trump agenda but to cause chaos. They’ll back the must disruptive, anti-NATO, anti-western agenda they can. They want us divided between nations and within those nations. Hence their support for Le Pen too.

Anyone who thinks Russia is an ally to them is a fool.

1andrew1 17-02-2018 19:07

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35937319)
So, never posted that Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russians?

No.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35937324)
These were after the election though wasn’t it?

As I’ve said before Russia’s goal isn’t to promote a Trump agenda but to cause chaos. They’ll back the must disruptive, anti-NATO, anti-western agenda they can. They want us divided between nations and within those nations. Hence their support for Le Pen too.

Anyone who thinks Russia is an ally to them is a fool.

Indeed, they were after the election. That statement was well intended I'm sure but misinformed and incorrect.

It's impossible to say how successful the Russians were at influencing the election outcome. I thought this part interesting:
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They also used social media, investigators say, to rally support for Green Party candidate Jill Stein in the general election, including an Instagram account that told black liberal activists to "choose peace and vote for Jill Stein" and that it wasn't "a wasted vote".
In several key Mid-western states, the number of Stein votes was greater than Mr Trump's margin of victory over Mrs Clinton.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43093260

Mick 17-02-2018 21:21

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937346)
No.

Don’t tell bare face lies. You have certainly implied his guilt many times over. You have a selective memory.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Indeed, they were after the election. That statement was well intended I'm sure but misinformed and incorrect.

No it wasn’t. I didn’t include time specifics in the sentence, so what was said is accurate.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
It's impossible to say how successful the Russians were at influencing the election outcome. I thought this part interesting:

The DoJ said yesterday that none of the indictments announced yesterday, played any role in altering the Election result. They know a lot more than you, I would say.

1andrew1 17-02-2018 21:44

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35937381)
Don’t tell bare face lies. You have certainly implied his guilt many times over. You have a selective memory.

I have never posted that Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russians. It may be a strategy to deter criticism of Trump on the forum, but it's disappointing that you chose to label me a liar.


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