Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35956256)

So the answer to environmental disaster is to build a number of potential environmental disasters to generate power for environmentally safe cars .
i'm off to the petrol station to fill up the car it runs on things that already dead .

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35956258)

It's an answer to the fact the country is going to face a energy crisis in the near future unless we address it. Since science hasn't yet found a way to harness the power of sarcasm we need to settle for less than perfect sources until such a time renewables can handle it all.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35956263)

Science hasn't managed to harness the power of fantasy boyhood dreams either ;)

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35956265)

Nuclear power plants aren't a fantasy.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35956267)

Safe ones are .

Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35956268)

Nothing in life is 100% safe but nuclear power stations are about as close as you can get.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35956238)

So at present renewable energy sources, solar or wind, cannot supply our full energy needs and to ensure that we still have nuclear and gas powered power generating stations.

Where is the, not Gigawatts, but Petawatts of power going to come from to recharge all these electric vehicles and maintain household and industrial power supply? Can the charging point infrastructure be in place nationwide well before petrol and diesel engines are banned? We don't have 22yrs to do it but considerably less as petrol and diesel are being phased out.

One more nuclear plant won't do it as what we have now is coming to end of life. Objections to nuclear will be raised not least due to what happened at Chernobyl and in Japan.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35956269)

Is that a fact ?

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35956290)

I did watch a video on Electric car use, and a neighbour of mine who owns a Tesla model S did back the video up.

The central point of the video was that electric cars are designed to be charged, probably overnight, while you (the owner) are home from work, doing the sort of stuff you normally do in the evening. The car will be fully charged in the morning. Yes, the range is probably 2-300 miles, but how many people regularly drive more than that in a day? My neighbour drives all over the country with his job, but he finds the Tesla considerably cheaper to run than a reasonably specced petrol car.

The technology isn't there yet to enable a full charge in a few minutes (whereas with petrol or diesel, you can get in the filling station, fill up, pay and be out the station in less than 5 minutes. It may be one day, but that's not where Tesla appear to think it will go. Where they are placing supercharger stations, it's usually on major roads, and usually near somewhere a person can go for the several hours it will take to recharge the car (such as a hotel or other leisure facility).

That's not to say I think the electricity grid will cope. I'm not sure it will. We have too many power stations that are near end of life, and the electricity companies do not seem interested in replacing them. It barely copes now in the winter, without the load imposed on it by 10s of thousands of electric cars charging overnight.

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Apparently so.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclea...y_and_security

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35956295)

to me it's a ticking time bomb until the luck runs out .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nts_by_country

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35966332)

Government ends incentives to buy new hybrids and cuts those for electric vehicles.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-says-industry

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35966355)

All's well that ends well you can still fill up with diesel or petrol .