Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35889407)

Sorry, in connection with the article I posted I meant there's now a debate in the Brexit camp about trade deals full stop, not just with the EU.
Do we:
- Go for Economists for Free Trade's approach. They want no tariffs. But their Patrick Minford has said this will cause the end of UK manufacturing.
- Go for a more interventionist, protectionist economy with tariffs which is likely to leave the country a lot poorer.

In context, polling by Ipsos Mori found that 45% of Britons thought single market access should be prioritised, while 39% prioritised control of immigration. Free trade is linked to granting work visas to trading partners. India has already made clear it would like more immigration into the UK as part of any new deal and other countries are likely to want this too. How will this go down with the electorate?
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35889419)

I heard Patrick Minford some time ago on the Daily Politics putting forwaed his analysis. As far as I'm concerned, he's just another economist with another view. Brexit showed us how much we should trust Economists.

So you're now trying a new scare tactic; if you have free trade you have to accept more immigration. Do you remainers ever stop? You seem to think Britain will be so weak after we finally leave the EU that we will be over a barrel as far as trade deals go and agree to anything. I completely disagree.

Britain's immigration policy should be controlled immigration; i.e. people coming to our country to fulfil a specific job or skill need. Not an immigration quota tied to a trade deal. The latter would defeat one of the main tenants of Brexit.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35889445)

No one's scaring anyone unless people are easily scared. Read the article - there's a debate going on in the Brexit camp on free trade v protectionism. It's an important debate to have. To read the article, google Brexit campaigners shift focus to global free trade

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35889468)

Let's look at the source; a pro-remain newspaper, who have links to the Bilderberg Group. Wow! Such a surprise that they are trying to sow seeds of disharmony amongst leave supporters.

I'll put that article on my completely ignore list.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35889471)

Always worth reading sources outside your comfort zone. Keep it quiet, but I've been known to read the Ukipgraph and Mail. ;)

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35889468)

Let's look at the source; a pro-remain newspaper, who have links to the Bilderberg Group. Wow! Such a surprise that they are trying to sow seeds of disharmony amongst leave supporters.

I'll put that article on my completely ignore list.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35889492)

I don't think this is a good idea at all

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...xit-negotiator

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35889492)

I don't think this is a good idea at all

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...xit-negotiator

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35889492)

I don't think this is a good idea at all

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...xit-negotiator

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35889514)

Lovers of a hard Brexit and good value chocolate be warned - you can't have your chocolate and eat it! ;)
"A top Mars executive says that if the UK leaves the EU without a trade deal it will result in higher prices and threaten jobs."
"In simple terms, if the UK and the EU fail to agree on a new preferential deal, it will be to the detriment of all. Yet that realisation may not be sufficient to produce an agreement."
http://news.sky.com/story/why-mars-b...-deal-10796207
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-Brexit.html

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35889514)

Lovers of a hard Brexit and good value chocolate be warned - you can't have your chocolate and eat it! ;)
"A top Mars executive says that if the UK leaves the EU without a trade deal it will result in higher prices and threaten jobs."
"In simple terms, if the UK and the EU fail to agree on a new preferential deal, it will be to the detriment of all. Yet that realisation may not be sufficient to produce an agreement."
http://news.sky.com/story/why-mars-b...-deal-10796207
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-Brexit.html