Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35887621)

As I've said previously, that trump has some Goldman Sachs representatives was a concern. This would be in the same category.

But to infer that Trump is a Globalist is nonsense. It was obvious from the get-go that the BBC were very anti Trump, so I decided to find out what Trump was actually saying, to make up my own mind on his policies.

His campaign speeches, and his speeches since then are readily available on Youtube, of which I watched a good number of in full.

No one listening to those speeches could get even a glint of a globalist agenda. His emphasis on one to one trade deals is a good example. One of the main ways globalism is 'back-doored' is multinational trade deals. which bring multinational laws with them. Trump is against those deals.

I loved this bit from his CPAC speech (44 minutes in) re globalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXWBcDz3Y68

Trust me, I will be monitoring President Trump. He has made a lot of promises, and I'm as keen as anyone to make sure he keeps them. The only policy areas I don't have an opinion on is health care and taxation, simply because I don't know enough about the USA in these areas. That still leaves me a lot to monitor though.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35887634)

In respect of globalisation, you need to judge him from his actions like his appointees and not his speeches. Lke most politicians, he has a habit of telling audiences what they want to hear.

His appointment of McMaster as national security adviser is a great move, this is a very interesting read. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...curity-adviser

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35887643)

You are determined to convince people that Trump is bad and Brexit is bad. That is your right to do so.

But other people will draw own conclusions. I've done my research and I can see no evidence of Trump taking a globalist stance; quite the opposite; he believes in Sovereign Nations. And he's the boss. His policy will be what he said in his speeches.

Steve Bannon confirmed that in his CPAC speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsTh...kv64yhGbdSD37f

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35887589)

The BBC (British Bullsh*t Corporation) would claim that. We were not told of the true and full extent of the EECs political aims at that time, It was sold to us as a purely trade membership.

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The countless demonstrations, many riots and the visceral outpouring of toddler grade angst and frustration bear testimony to that statement :D

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In your echo chamber ;)

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That is amazingly blind. Pie (one of your lefty friends) tells it like it is link. You liberals really can't accept liability for closing down debate, can you? :dozey:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35887621)

But to infer that Trump is a Globalist is nonsense. It was obvious from the get-go that the BBC were very anti Trump, so I decided to find out what Trump was actually saying, to make up my own mind on his policies.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35887644)

. I'm interested in discussing him. .

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35887651)

As far as I can see Pie is not a real person, just a work of Satire. He is not my "friend" :) although I do agree (with "him") that Clinton was a monumental mistake and that Sanders was the best opponent for Trump.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35887653)

I'm interested in discussing the policies he promised to implement.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35887670)

Amuses me that with the Oscars faux pas dominating the headlines nobody is reporting any anti-Trump speeches by the luvvies. :D

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35887670)

Amuses me that with the Oscars faux pas dominating the headlines nobody is reporting any anti-Trump speeches by the luvvies. :D

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35887652)

He certainly was anti-globalist in this campaign rhetoric. However is there much evidence of him taking that approach before then? He wasn't shy about outsourcing his products to Asian countries, rather than American ones, as a businessman. Now he has appointed bankers to senior positions. Surely if you believe these people are in cahoots then senior members of Goldman Sachs would be part of it.

As a sidenote I find it bizarre how quickly the right has become the cheerleaders for protectionism.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35887684)

I've already voiced my unease about Goldman Sachs representatives being involved in an earlier post, with relevant comments on it.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35887686)

I wonder if one of Trump's inner circle will change his views. Back in November, Trump adviser Gary Cohn, then Goldman Sachs president and chief operating officer explained why he employed people in Bangalore, “We hire people there because they work for cents on the dollar versus what people work for in the United States.”

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35887688)

Exactly why I have concerns. But he is now working for a boss who's declared policies are against that sort of thing. He needs to obey his boss. These guys have expertise in financial markets. That expertise needs to be refocused to line up with Trump's policies.