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Maggy 05-03-2012 18:46
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35393448)
Wasn't that only after Maggy made threats to use nukes?
I did no such thing..:p:

RizzyKing 05-03-2012 19:42
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There were quite a lot of threats issued by the UK to france and that was the only reason they started to buy back and cancel orders also i believe the US discussed serious political consequences if france didn't cease trading missile tech to argentina. France didn't do a damn thing because it was the right thing to do they only did the right thing when it became in their national interest to do it not exactly what i would call a good ally at all but then my history with the french military does make me extremely biased where they are concerned.

Osem 05-03-2012 20:22
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35393524)
I did no such thing..:p:
Slapped legs more your thing eh? :D

TheDaddy 05-03-2012 22:28
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35393578)
There were quite a lot of threats issued by the UK to france and that was the only reason they started to buy back and cancel orders also i believe the US discussed serious political consequences if france didn't cease trading missile tech to argentina. France didn't do a damn thing because it was the right thing to do they only did the right thing when it became in their national interest to do it not exactly what i would call a good ally at all but then my history with the french military does make me extremely biased where they are concerned.
Former Defence Secretary Sir John Nott disagrees with you

At the start of the conflict, France's left-leaning president, Francois Mitterrand, had come to Britain's aid by declaring an embargo on French arms sales and assistance to Argentina.

He also allowed the Falklands-bound British fleet to use French port facilities in West Africa, as well as providing London with detailed information about planes and weaponry his country had sold to Buenos Aires.

Paris also co-operated with extensive British efforts to stop Argentina acquiring any more Exocets on the world's arms market.

From Digital Fanatic's link at the top of the page

chris9991 06-03-2012 06:21
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...ands-argentina

Man opens his gob again

Chris 06-03-2012 07:23
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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35393677)
Quote:
"The tragedy of 1982, when 900 young lives were lost was that it was caused by the folly of two political leaders, Galtieri and Thatcher, who were both losing their grip on the reins of power and used the conflict as a distraction."
Roger Waters really is just a tired old Lefty, isn't he. You gotta love the leftie way he's so desperate to have a pop at Thatcher that he accidentally redefines Galtieri from 'military dictator' to 'political leader'.

Alan Fry 06-03-2012 10:14
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35393433)
How France helped both sides in the Falklands War




Linkage HERE
Well they are 100% with us on the Falklands! (Along with the USA and the Commonwealth)!

Kymmy 06-03-2012 10:21
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PMSL.. you actually think that France, US and commonwealth could give a crap..

The only interest you'll get from them is when oil goes for sale

Alan Fry 06-03-2012 10:22
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35393767)
PMSL.. you actually think that France, US and commonwealth could give a crap..

The only interest you'll get from them is when oil goes for sale
Yes, but they will not be helping Argentina, anyway it is minor UK oil companies that are benfiting from this!

Tim Deegan 06-03-2012 10:38
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35393769)
Yes, but they will not be helping Argentina, anyway it is minor UK oil companies that are benfiting from this!
In case nobody has told you Alan, the current oil reserves are running out. So these oil fields are of huge interest to any country that can stake a claim.

Which oil companies are you referring to as minor?

Alan Fry 06-03-2012 10:50
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35393777)
In case nobody has told you Alan, the current oil reserves are running out. So these oil fields are of huge interest to any country that can stake a claim.

Which oil companies are you referring to as minor?
Desire Petroleum (AIM Listed), Rockhopper Exploration (AIM Listed) and Falkland Oil and Gas (AIM Listed), they are all looking for oil in the Falklands!

If there is a lot of oil, expect a takeove of those companies by "Big Oil" corporations!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Oil_and_Gas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockhopper_Exploration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire_Petroleum

Tim Deegan 06-03-2012 11:04
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35393784)
Desire Petroleum (AIM Listed), Rockhopper Exploration (AIM Listed) and Falkland Oil and Gas (AIM Listed), they are all looking for oil in the Falklands!

If there is a lot of oil, expect a takeove of those companies by "Big Oil" corporations!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Oil_and_Gas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockhopper_Exploration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire_Petroleum
Exactly, which is why Obama isn't backing us.

Have you never watched the program on Discovery about oil riggers in the USA? They are all smaller cpmpanies who do the exploration and drilling. Although I should think that in this case BP will most likely step in with money and resources.

Alan Fry 06-03-2012 11:09
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35393787)
Exactly, which is why Obama isn't backing us.

Have you never watched the program on Discovery about oil riggers in the USA? They are all smaller cpmpanies who do the exploration and drilling. Although I should think that in this case BP will most likely step in with money and resources.
I think they will find it a good investment!

Digital Fanatic 06-03-2012 11:28
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Good article in The Guardian this morning:

Will no one listen to us Falkland Islanders?
Well-meaning actors and musicians have overlooked the legal right of a people to determine their own future

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The Falkland Islands have been much in the news of late, and we are extremely grateful for the strong support we have and are receiving from the people and the government of the UK. However, among the informed commentary, there are misperceptions being perpetuated by people taking it upon themselves to publicly comment on a people and a place they have never visited, and clearly know little about. We would encourage everyone, actors, musicians or otherwise, to come and visit our home in order that they can properly appreciate a matter that frequently gets overlooked – the unassailable right of a people to determine their own future, in their own home.

I would like to take this opportunity to correct some common myths about our history. First, the Falkland Islands had no indigenous population prior to their settlement by our ancestors – the islands were unoccupied. Argentina claims the Falkland Islands form part of the province of Tierra del Fuego – an area that was not claimed as a part of the Republic of Argentina until after two generations of Falkland Islanders had been born and raised.
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There is no truth to Argentine claims that a civilian population was expelled by Britain in 1833. The people expelled were an illegal Argentine military garrison, who had arrived three months earlier. The civilian population of the islands, who had sought permission from Britain to live there, were invited to stay. All but two of them, with their partners, did so.
Linkage HERE

Tim Deegan 15-03-2012 23:41
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Argentina has threatened to take legal action against British companies involved in oil development in the Falkland Islands - a move described by the Foreign Office as "wholly counter-productive".

The country's foreign minister Hector Timerman said there would be "administrative, civil and criminal" penalties against the companies involved.

He said "the resources of the South Atlantic are the property of all the Argentines", including any oil found off the shores of the islands they call the Malvinas.

A UK Foreign Office spokeswoman said: "These latest attempts to damage the economic livelihoods of the Falkland Islands people regrettably reflect a pattern of behaviour by the Argentine government.

"From harassing Falklands shipping to threatening the islanders' air links with Chile, Argentina's efforts to intimidate the Falklands are illegal, unbecoming and wholly counter-productive.

"We are studying Argentina's remarks carefully and will work closely with any company potentially affected to ensure that the practical implications for them are as few as possible."

Rockhopper Exploration, based in Salisbury, Wiltshire, is the only company so far to strike oil. It has been seeking a two billion-dollar investor to fund crude production from last year's discovery. A spokesman for the company said it would not be commenting on the matter.

The Foreign Office spokeswoman added: "Hydrocarbon exploration in the Falklands is a legitimate commercial venture.

"The British government supports the right of the Falkland Islanders to develop their own natural resources for their own economic benefit. This right is an integral part of their right of self-determination.

"We remain clear that domestic Argentine legislation does not apply to the Falkland Islands or South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. The Falkland Islands Government is, as always, entitled to develop both fisheries and hydrocarbons industries within its own waters, without interference from Argentina."
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/argentina-...nds-oil-threat


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