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TheNorm 24-10-2009 21:45

Re: [Update] BNP on Question Time this week
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34897169)
... how long do you have to live in a country to become "indigenouse" ...

I think Old Nick said 17,000 years, which was the end of the last ice age.

Russ 24-10-2009 21:47

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34897041)
I was born in England and therefore I am English and any form I fill in should have that option.

What about you being Welsh are you happy to tick the White British box or should it not be White Welsh.

I seriously could not care. I'm Welsh and British so I'd select whichever option was on offer.

zing_deleted 24-10-2009 21:49

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34897169)
it's that word again "indigenous" i would be classed as indigenous but how long do you have to live in a country to become "indigenouse" i don't like it's use in this context

My view ive made clear I do not wish to clear this country of anyone who is already here. I do want tighter controls on who comes here from now on and I want to stop pandering to the minority and make them adapt to this country and not this country to them

Think is when 43% in a survey have similar opinions and none of the mainstream parties listen then who is going to?

martyh 24-10-2009 21:50

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34897182)
My view ive made clear I do not wish to clear this country of anyone who is already here. I do want tighter controls on who comes here from now on and I want to stop pandering to the minority and make them adapt to this country and not this country to them

agree 100%:clap::clap:

Hugh 24-10-2009 22:00

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34897165)
Yes but they do nowadays have multiple options except the one I want;)

And then people will want the options for
Cornish
Yorkshire
Lancashire
et al......

Where do we stop?:D

Gary L 24-10-2009 22:02

Re: [Update] BNP on Question Time this week
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34897182)
My view ive made clear I do not wish to clear this country of anyone who is already here. I do want tighter controls on who comes here from now on and I want to stop pandering to the minority and make them adapt to this country and not this country to them

I think I can safely say everyone here is agreed.

or maybe not :)

Hugh 24-10-2009 22:09

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Re English ancestry - you are all probably mostly Spanish/Iberian (not Northern European).

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The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, after the melting of the ice caps but before the land broke away from the mainland and divided into islands. Our subsequent separation from Europe has preserved a genetic time capsule of southwestern Europe during the ice age, which we share most closely with the former ice-age refuge in the Basque country. The first settlers were unlikely to have spoken a Celtic language but possibly a tongue related to the unique Basque language.
There is, further down in the article, an interesting point that may sit uncomfortably with Nick's beliefs about "indigenous natives"
Quote:

So, based on the overall genetic perspective of the British, it seems that Celts, Belgians, Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Vikings and Normans were all immigrant minorities compared with the Basque pioneers, who first ventured into the empty, chilly lands so recently vacated by the great ice sheets.
Must be why the English seem to be drawn to the Costa del Sol......:D

Arthurgray50@blu 25-10-2009 00:04

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To me if you hold a BRITISH PASSPORT, you are British, those who don't should prove that they can work in this country with a visa, but gurrantee about 50% don't have either, and on Monday they will be at the benefit office claiming benefit ( and no this is not a knock at the unemployed). If you go to certain parts of London the Uk border agencies will be having a field day getting illegals.

Chris 25-10-2009 00:09

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Great, Art - why don't you phone the Border Agency with this intel and give them a tip off? You might get a reward.

danielf 25-10-2009 00:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34897276)
To me if you hold a BRITISH PASSPORT, you are British, those who don't should prove that they can work in this country with a visa, but gurrantee about 50% don't have either, and on Monday they will be at the benefit office claiming benefit ( and no this is not a knock at the unemployed). If you go to certain parts of London the Uk border agencies will be having a field day getting illegals.

Arthur: I don't hold a British passport, and don't have a visa, yet I have worked and paid taxes in the UK for nearly 10 years. This is because I am an EU citizen, and I can work anywhere in the EU, much like a British person can work anywhere in the EU. Do you have a problem with that?

Hugh 25-10-2009 01:47

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34897300)
Arthur: I don't hold a British passport, and don't have a visa, yet I have worked and paid taxes in the UK for nearly 10 years. This is because I am an EU citizen, and I can work anywhere in the EU, much like a British person can work anywhere in the EU. Do you have a problem with that?

Of course he has - you're not "indigenous" ;)

btw, re Nick's point about the Maoris being indigenous to New Zealand (Aotearoa) - they only arrived there from the Polynesian Islands about 350 years before any Europeans (Pakeha) arrived there, so probably not the best example he could have given.

Jimmy-J 25-10-2009 01:57

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"THE QUEEN has declared WAR on the BNP." :rolleyes:

link

Gary L 25-10-2009 01:04

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Originally Posted by Product 13 (Post 34897329)
"THE QUEEN has declared WAR on the BNP." :rolleyes:

It's alright for her, she's in a palace! :)

Griffin will probably attack her now, and mention something about Germans :)

SMG 25-10-2009 02:34

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34896934)
People who find themselves unable to voice their opinions, because of the fear of being branded "Racist" will use the ballot box instead. The main parties have consistently failed to address the problem. Hence the increase in BNP votes.


Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 34896938)
You miss my point. Why would people who are genuinely not racist vote for people who are? Or is it simply a matter of protest vote?

Yes. A protest vote.

In France, when the NP gained a large vote, it made the main parties act together & do something about the situation. Perhaps that could work here? Our main parties are too busy lining their own pockets & smiling at cameras to do anything. Quite apart from the fact that they are a bunch of useless cowards, scared at the prospect of rocking the boat & loosing their jobs. :td:

arcamalpha2004 25-10-2009 08:07

After the event, BNP Post Mortem.
 
Cannot please his own Party, what's new in Politics ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...bnp?CMP=AFCYAH


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